
gruntfromhalo
Joined: Nov 21, 2007
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 10:10 PM
Msg. 1 of 34
After clicking this topic, you might be wondering, "What the rainbows does that mean?" There are, in fact, multiple reasons why grammar is so essential. First, if one can not use proper grammar, they sure as hell won't be able to figure out 3ds Max or whatever lame tools HEK packs. Grammar takes a certain level of intelligence. Though it's, far, far less than that of the tools required for modding. You may think you can mod without grammar, and you might be able to, but if you exercise your brain by actually learning it I'm sure modding will be a ton easier. Secondly, if you don't use proper grammar, people will think you don't know any better and are around age 9, far too young for making anything above a hightmap-thing. I think this site requires you to be over 13. It did when I read the terms and conditions last time. Actually, I think it's law that requires that. If it doesn't, I lose this argument. Except that forum members, who'll still think you're 9 and too young to be doing this, preventing them from giving any proper help or advice, because 9 year olds can't soak it up well. Usually a huge "i dun get it!!!!!!" followed by a "lolwut" are the common responses a 9 year old gives to any advice. I was 9 once too, you know. If people don't think you're 9, they'll just think you are a complete idiot. You Do Not Capitalize Like This Or Put Punctuation Mark's Here . It's actually quite easy. Capitalize proper nouns and the first letter of a sentence, use ' for possessives and contractions. Put a period right after the last letter in a sentence. Next up, people taking you seriously. A serious individual will always use proper grammar. By serious, I mean serious about modding, as opposed to someone lacking a sense of humor. Context clues are also essential to modding, but that's for another time. If no one can take you seriously, you'll have trouble finding downloads for your map. I wouldn't download a map with a description of, "this is my map download it thx" You may be thinking, "Now, where can I learn grammar?" Well, you're in luck! http://www.amazon.com/St-Martins-Guide-Writing/dp/0312536127/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1285898891&sr=1-1 (Posting URLs and editing your post is completely messed up.) It's a great book. It also addresses issues like run-on sentences, where to put a semi-colon, and sentence fragments. There's enough grammar in there to last a lifetime! Love, Gruntfromhalo Edited by gruntfromhalo on Sep 30, 2010 at 10:11 PMEdited by gruntfromhalo on Sep 30, 2010 at 10:12 PMEdited by gruntfromhalo on Sep 30, 2010 at 10:50 PM
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gruntfromhalo
Joined: Nov 21, 2007
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 10:14 PM
Msg. 2 of 34
Quote: --- Original message by: Sergeant Major Some of us are able to properly convey meaningful ideas in an acceptable manner. That does not give us gentleman the right to poke spite at cretans. G'day. I disagree. If we do not try to urge the peons toward progression, they will be left there, in the dark, damp corners for eternity. I believe they, too, have the mental capacity somewhere to become equal. Only then can we become a true democracy.
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AGLion
Joined: Jun 29, 2010
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 10:20 PM
Msg. 3 of 34
3ds max doesn't require grammar...
it needs math, jeez
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gruntfromhalo
Joined: Nov 21, 2007
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 10:23 PM
Msg. 4 of 34
Quote: --- Original message by: AGLion 3ds max doesn't require grammar...
it needs math, jeez Math is also very important. However, I learned 3ds Max before I even took algebra. Speaking of grammar, you failed to capitalize 3ds Max, which is a proper noun. You've failed your test, please proceed through the hatch to the bottom of the hierarchy. Edited by gruntfromhalo on Sep 30, 2010 at 10:23 PMEdited by gruntfromhalo on Sep 30, 2010 at 10:23 PM
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AGLion
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 10:28 PM
Msg. 5 of 34
Quote: --- Original message by: gruntfromhaloQuote: --- Original message by: AGLion 3ds max doesn't require grammar...
it needs math, jeez Math is also very important. However, I learned 3ds Max before I even took algebra. Speaking of grammar, you failed to capitalize 3ds Max, which is a proper noun. You've failed your test; please proceed through the hatch to the bottom of the hierarchy.Edited by gruntfromhalo on Sep 30, 2010 at 10:23 PMEdited by gruntfromhalo on Sep 30, 2010 at 10:23 PM lol troll. Edited by AGLion on Sep 30, 2010 at 10:29 PM
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gruntfromhalo
Joined: Nov 21, 2007
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 10:33 PM
Msg. 6 of 34
You aren't even trying anymore. Your whole bloodline will be stuck down there in the rat-infested basement. Just be glad the gas chambers closed at 7. I haven't the faintest idea why you underlined 3ds Max. Are you saying that only trolls capitalize proper nouns correctly? If you're doubting that I know how to use it, ask someone who's been here for over a year. Edited by gruntfromhalo on Sep 30, 2010 at 10:38 PM
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Hawk
Joined: Apr 29, 2007
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 10:39 PM
Msg. 7 of 34
............... ___@@@__ ......_____//_______\________ ---o-------- GRAMMAR-POLICE---@) -----`--(@)======+====(@)--' Edited by Hawk on Sep 30, 2010 at 10:40 PM
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AGLion
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 10:40 PM
Msg. 8 of 34
Quote: --- Original message by: gruntfromhalo
Your whole bloodline will be stuck down there in the rat-infested basement. umad?
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Noble
Joined: Sep 11, 2010
"Well if it isn't the big cheese!"
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 10:41 PM
Msg. 9 of 34
Quote: --- Original message by: gruntfromhalo
After clicking this topic, you might be wondering, "What the rainbows does that mean?" There are, in fact, multiple reasons why grammar is so essential. First, if one can not use proper grammar, they sure as hell won't be able to figure out 3ds Max or whatever lame tools HEK packs. Grammar takes a certain level of intelligence, far, far less than tools required for modding. You may think you can mod without grammar, and you might be able to, but if you exercise your brain by actually learning it I'm sure modding will be a ton easier. Secondly, if you don't use proper grammar, people will think you don't know any better and are around age 9, far too young for making anything above a hightmap-thing. I think this site requires you to be over 13, it did when I real the terms and conditions last time. Actually, I think it's law that requires that. If it doesn't, I lose this argument. Except that forum members, who'll still think you're 9 and too young to be doing this, preventing them from giving any proper help or advice, because 9 year olds can't soak it up well. Usually a huge "i dun get it!!!!!!" followed by a "lolwut" are the common responses a 9 year old gives to any advice. I was 9 once too, you know. You may be thinking, "Now, where can I learn grammar?" Well, you're in luck! I know a place where we can learn proper grammar...It's called school, which by the way most of the people here are still in. Edited by Noble on Sep 30, 2010 at 10:42 PM
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doompig444
Joined: Mar 22, 2010
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 10:44 PM
Msg. 10 of 34
Your grammar isn't necessarily flawless either. Want me to edit your first post and point out some epic irony?
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gruntfromhalo
Joined: Nov 21, 2007
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 10:47 PM
Msg. 11 of 34
Quote: --- Original message by: AGLionQuote: --- Original message by: gruntfromhalo
Your whole bloodline will be stuck down there in the rat-infested basement. umad? No, I do believe it's you that's getting quite angry. Remember, pulling out your hair is never a good solution. Try taking deep breaths and counting to ten. Quote: --- Original message by: Hawk
............... ___@@@__ ......_____//_______\________ ---o-------- GRAMMAR-POLICE---@) -----`--(@)======+====(@)--' Edited by Hawk on Sep 30, 2010 at 10:40 PM That is the wrong faction. Please, do not confuse those peons with us! Quote: --- Original message by: NobleQuote: --- Original message by: gruntfromhalo You may be thinking, "Now, where can I learn grammar?" Well, you're in luck! I know a place where we can learn proper grammar... It's called school, which , by the way , most of the people here are still in. Edited by Noble on Sep 30, 2010 at 10:42 PM I'm still a freshman in high school. They taught me where to put capitals and the works in elementary school. Thank you for pointing that typo out for me, they can be hard to spot sometimes.
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iizahsum
Joined: Jun 22, 2008
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 10:50 PM
Msg. 12 of 34
Quote: --- Original message by: gruntfromhalo
After clicking this topic you might be wondering "What the rainbows does that mean?". There are in fact multiple reasons why grammar is so essential. First, if one can not use proper grammar they sure as hell won't be able to figure out 3ds Max, or whatever lame tools HEK packs. Grammar takes a certain level of intelligence far less than the tools required for modding. You may think you can mod without grammar, and you might be able to; if you exercise your brain by actually learning it I'm sure modding will be a ton easier. Yeah thats just the first part. You use commas like they're some kind of drug. Edited by iizahsum on Sep 30, 2010 at 10:51 PM
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AGLion
Joined: Jun 29, 2010
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 10:51 PM
Msg. 13 of 34
Quote: --- Original message by: gruntfromhalo I'm still a freshman in high school. This sums up everything.
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gruntfromhalo
Joined: Nov 21, 2007
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 10:51 PM
Msg. 14 of 34
Quote: --- Original message by: iizahsumQuote: --- Original message by: gruntfromhalo
After clicking this topic you might be wondering "What the rainbows does that mean?". There are in fact multiple reasons why grammar is so essential. First, if one can not use proper grammar they sure as hell won't be able to figure out 3ds Max, or whatever lame tools HEK packs. Grammar takes a certain level of intelligence far less than the tools required for modding. You may think you can mod without grammar, and you might be able to; if you exercise your brain by actually learning it I'm sure modding will be a ton easier. Yeah thats just the first part. You use commas like they're some kind of drug. Edited by iizahsum on Sep 30, 2010 at 10:51 PM They help me keep away from harder punctuations like semicolons. Though, you left out a comma and an apostrophe. Quote: --- Original message by: AGLionQuote: --- Original message by: gruntfromhalo I'm still a freshman in high school. This sums up everything. That it does. By me having better grammar than you when I'm only a freshman in high school, it makes quite a statement about your intelligence. Please, back to the basement. I'll bring you to the gas chamber tomorrow. Edited by gruntfromhalo on Sep 30, 2010 at 10:52 PMEdited by gruntfromhalo on Sep 30, 2010 at 10:53 PM
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iizahsum
Joined: Jun 22, 2008
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 10:56 PM
Msg. 15 of 34
I wasn't exactly taking it serious. To many commas makes it hard to read since they are used to separate two clauses which indicate a slight pause. That makes reading a sentence annoying. Also a semicolon is like using a comma without having to follow up with and, or, but. It looks more professional and is no harder to use. That just made you seem very ignorant. Edited by iizahsum on Sep 30, 2010 at 11:01 PM
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AGLion
Joined: Jun 29, 2010
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 10:56 PM
Msg. 16 of 34
Quote: --- Original message by: gruntfromhalo it makes quite a statement about your intelligence. Judging intelligence over the internet... My point has been proven. Quote: --- Original message by: iizahsum I wasn't exactly taking it serious. To many commas makes it hard to read since they are used to separate two clauses which indicate a slight pause. That makes reading a sentence annoying. Also a semicolon is like using a comma without having to follow up with and, or, but. It looks more professional and is no harder to use. Semicolons are just used to combine two complete sentences together. It's not anything fancy or difficult. I ate the pie; the pie was good. I walked the dog; the dog took a crap. There are no more cookies; I am now sad. Edited by AGLion on Sep 30, 2010 at 10:58 PM
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iizahsum
Joined: Jun 22, 2008
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 11:02 PM
Msg. 17 of 34
Quote: --- Original message by: AGLionQuote: --- Original message by: gruntfromhalo it makes quite a statement about your intelligence. Judging intelligence over the internet... My point has been proven. Quote: --- Original message by: iizahsum I wasn't exactly taking it serious. To many commas makes it hard to read since they are used to separate two clauses which indicate a slight pause. That makes reading a sentence annoying. Also a semicolon is like using a comma without having to follow up with and, or, but. It looks more professional and is no harder to use. Semicolons are just used to combine two complete sentences together. It's not anything fancy or difficult. I ate the pie; the pie was good. I walked the dog; the dog took a crap. There are no more cookies; I am now sad. Edited by AGLion on Sep 30, 2010 at 10:58 PM thanks for just saying what I said I ate the pie, and the pie was good or I ate the pie; the pie was good. They are the same thing but if you already have a comma used in a sentence it would make more sense to use a semi colon than more comma. Edited by iizahsum on Sep 30, 2010 at 11:03 PM
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gruntfromhalo
Joined: Nov 21, 2007
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 11:03 PM
Msg. 18 of 34
Quote: --- Original message by: iizahsum
I wasn't exactly taking it serious. To many commas makes it hard to read since they are used to separate two clauses which indicate a slight pause. That makes reading a sentence annoying. Also a semicolon is like using a comma without having to follow up with and, or, but. It looks more professional and is no harder to use. That just made you seem very ignorant. Edited by iizahsum on Sep 30, 2010 at 11:01 PM I'm sorry for following up on your analogy of punctuation marks to drugs. Using context clues, you can determine what definition of harder I was using. Quote: --- Original message by: AGLionQuote: --- Original message by: gruntfromhalo it makes quite a statement about your intelligence. Judging intelligence over the internet... My point has been proven. Intelligence level should be judged from every action one makes, rather than just test scores.
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iizahsum
Joined: Jun 22, 2008
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 11:04 PM
Msg. 19 of 34
once again you use a comma where it is not necessary.
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gruntfromhalo
Joined: Nov 21, 2007
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 11:06 PM
Msg. 20 of 34
Quote: --- Original message by: iizahsum once again you use a comma where it is not necessary. Amazing capitalization there, chap. And, it was necessary. One of the basic ways of placing a comma is putting it where one would pause while speaking. I do not feel like finding the exact rule in a grammar book, but you can if you want to. Edited by gruntfromhalo on Sep 30, 2010 at 11:07 PM
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AGLion
Joined: Jun 29, 2010
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 11:06 PM
Msg. 21 of 34
Quote: thanks for just saying what I said I ate the pie, and the pie was good or I ate the pie; and the pie was good. WUT
They are the same thing but if you already have a comma used in a sentence it would make more sense to use a semi colon than more comma.
I said complete sentence :P It doesn't necessarily make more sense, it's just that both of them can be used to the flow of your writing. It's generally frowned upon when you overuse conjunctions or periods in a paper, so that's where semicolons come in. It's all to balance writing. freaking broken quote, oh and you fixed colon :P Edited by AGLion on Sep 30, 2010 at 11:07 PM
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iizahsum
Joined: Jun 22, 2008
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 11:09 PM
Msg. 22 of 34
Quote: --- Original message by: AGLionQuote: thanks for just saying what I said I ate the pie, and the pie was good or I ate the pie; and the pie was good. WUT
They are the same thing but if you already have a comma used in a sentence it would make more sense to use a semi colon than more comma.
I said complete sentence :P It doesn't necessarily make more sense, it's just that both of them can be used to the flow of your writing. It's generally frowned upon when you overuse conjunctions or periods in a paper, so that's where semicolons come in. It's all to balance writing. freaking broken quote, oh and you fixed colon :P Edited by AGLion on Sep 30, 2010 at 11:07 PM Yeah I messed up there, I fixed it though. and to gruntfromhalo, I forgot to capitalize, one word, chap, but i guess your right, talking like this, is so much cooler, sorry for your ignorance, I really can't do much else to help you realize, your wrong, about comma placement,.
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AGLion
Joined: Jun 29, 2010
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 11:12 PM
Msg. 23 of 34
Quote: --- Original message by: gruntfromhaloQuote: --- Original message by: iizahsum once again you use a comma where it is not necessary. Amazing capitalization there, chap. And, it was necessary. One of the basic ways of placing a comma is putting it where one would pause while speaking. I do not feel like finding the exact rule in a grammar book, but you can if you want to. Edited by gruntfromhalo on Sep 30, 2010 at 11:07 PM Here, I can see that you have no idea what a comma is used for. Therefore, I can judge that your intelligence level is rather low. There's a nice little spot in the basement right over there.
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doompig444
Joined: Mar 22, 2010
Morni alanti
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 11:12 PM
Msg. 24 of 34
Quote: --- Original message by: gruntfromhalo I'm sorry for following up on your analogy of between punctuation marks to and drugs. Using context clues, you can determine what which definition of harder I was using. Edited by doompig444 on Sep 30, 2010 at 11:12 PM
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iizahsum
Joined: Jun 22, 2008
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 11:15 PM
Msg. 25 of 34
Quote: --- Original message by: gruntfromhaloQuote: --- Original message by: iizahsum once again you use a comma where it is not necessary. Amazing capitalization there, chap. And, it was necessary. One of the basic ways of placing a comma is putting it where one would pause while speaking. I do not feel like finding the exact rule in a grammar book, but you can if you want to. Edited by gruntfromhalo on Sep 30, 2010 at 11:07 PM Also never begin a sentence with and.
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gruntfromhalo
Joined: Nov 21, 2007
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 11:22 PM
Msg. 26 of 34
Quote: --- Original message by: doompig444Quote: --- Original message by: gruntfromhalo I'm sorry for following up on your analogy of between punctuation marks to and drugs. Using context clues, you can determine what which definition of harder I was using. Edited by doompig444 on Sep 30, 2010 at 11:12 PM Word choice is not the same as grammar mistakes. Quote: --- Original message by: iizahsumYeah I messed up there, I fixed it though.
and to gruntfromhalo, I forgot to capitalize, one word, chap, but i guess your right, talking like this, is so much cooler, sorry for your ignorance, I really can't do much else to help you realize, your wrong, about comma placement,. I have a bad habit of posting first and proofreading in edits, too. For pointing out comma abuse, I can't really tell if you made the ten or twenty obvious errors on purpose or not, so I wont point them out. Quote: --- Original message by: iizahsumQuote: --- Original message by: gruntfromhaloQuote: --- Original message by: iizahsum once again you use a comma where it is not necessary. Amazing capitalization there, chap. And, it was necessary. One of the basic ways of placing a comma is putting it where one would pause while speaking. I do not feel like finding the exact rule in a grammar book, but you can if you want to. Edited by gruntfromhalo on Sep 30, 2010 at 11:07 PM Also never begin a sentence with and. I am aware it is not proper to do that, however the rule is not cared about by authors and the likes. Edited by gruntfromhalo on Sep 30, 2010 at 11:25 PM
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WM Blade
Joined: Sep 27, 2008
WORT WORT WHAT???
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 11:23 PM
Msg. 27 of 34
I so lol'd at this topic, in a right way xD
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yayaplols
Joined: Nov 29, 2009
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 11:24 PM
Msg. 28 of 34
It is just grammar, don't have to be so uptight about it. At least, instead of doing all of that punctuation and grammar thing here, where we all (or some ,if not most, of us) just hang out, make it easier to understand and all. This thread will all go south.
"Cut out all these exclamation points. An exclamation point is like laughing at your own joke." -Anonymous
Correct English is the slang of prigs who write history and essays. ~George Eliot, Middlemarch, 1872
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Co1t3r
Joined: Dec 13, 2008
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 11:24 PM
Msg. 29 of 34
I try to use good grammar in my posts, but it really isn't a big deal to me if other people don't. Some users aren't native to English and therefore have a harder time communicating. If people knew all the little grammar rules, they would follow them, but most of don't care that much or simply have no way to learn them. And you can start a sentence with and.
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gruntfromhalo
Joined: Nov 21, 2007
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 11:27 PM
Msg. 30 of 34
Quote: --- Original message by: Co1t3r I try to use good grammar in my posts, but it really isn't a big deal to me if other people don't. Some users aren't native to English and therefore have a harder time communicating. If people knew all the little grammar rules, they would follow them, but most of don't care that much or simply have no way to learn them. And you can start a sentence with and. Non-native English speakers are completely forgiven for grammar mistakes in my book. I'm sure any Spaniard would vomit at the sight of my Spanish grammar knowledge.
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WM Blade
Joined: Sep 27, 2008
WORT WORT WHAT???
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 11:28 PM
Msg. 31 of 34
Quote: --- Original message by: gruntfromhaloQuote: --- Original message by: Co1t3r I try to use good grammar in my posts, but it really isn't a big deal to me if other people don't. Some users aren't native to English and therefore have a harder time communicating. If people knew all the little grammar rules, they would follow them, but most of don't care that much or simply have no way to learn them. And you can start a sentence with and. Non-native English speakers are completely forgiven for grammar mistakes in my book. I'm sure any Spaniard would vomit at the sight of my Spanish grammar knowledge. I agree ^-^
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gruntfromhalo
Joined: Nov 21, 2007
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 11:32 PM
Msg. 32 of 34
Quote: --- Original message by: WM BladeQuote: --- Original message by: gruntfromhaloQuote: --- Original message by: Co1t3r I try to use good grammar in my posts, but it really isn't a big deal to me if other people don't. Some users aren't native to English and therefore have a harder time communicating. If people knew all the little grammar rules, they would follow them, but most of don't care that much or simply have no way to learn them. And you can start a sentence with and. Non-native English speakers are completely forgiven for grammar mistakes in my book. I'm sure any Spaniard would vomit at the sight of my Spanish grammar knowledge. I agree ^-^ Unless you are a non-native English speaker, you shall be stuck in the gas chamber tomorrow. The only emoticon allowed is ;_; (And before you point it out, I left out the period so the emoticon doesn't have a strange dot beside its mouth.)
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WM Blade
Joined: Sep 27, 2008
WORT WORT WHAT???
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 11:35 PM
Msg. 33 of 34
LOL!!! Yes im a non-native English speaker so I think i'll pass with that weird idea of the gas chamber O.o
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firehero777
Joined: Aug 4, 2009
Sonic rules
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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 11:53 PM
Msg. 34 of 34
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