Your late to the party brosf, did it before you by a couple months.

Hey it's textured, that's a great way to begin. Or has someone already textured another? Not seen much along those linest but I may have missed something.

and you were way to early to the party brosef
Edited by Hydrogen on Dec 8, 2010 at 02:00 AM

Show me a wireframe of the actual model, ya'know, the thing that has took some effort unlike the texture.

I think we should be grateful the ma37 is done, and we should get it ingame, instead of worrying about the wireframe.

and you aint got no pancake mix, nothing wrong being to early except for some cases



Lets think for a moment how many skinners are still around that are good. Take some effect in who modeled it and the person that uvws something that isnt 100% like the orig model to something that has a texture, it won't 100% fit and look good that much.

E: unless your imbrokeru and can godly make things 95% accurate or even better
Edited by Spartan_094 on Dec 8, 2010 at 09:07 PM

here yuh' go:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss288/tucker214/ma37-2.jpg?t=1291863799
E: That was actually an old model, lemme post something more recent.

Edited by Noble on Dec 8, 2010 at 10:45 PM

Why the hell is the wireframe so important? It is skinned already and looks fine. A majority of the errors will probably not show up in FP anyway, where it really counts.

That wasn't the one I had on the page before, I just found a model of one I made a while back with a wire-frame and just posted it here.

dang i made a perfect model for the reach magnum but i got stumbled on the unwrapping, do you have any tips? and can you maybe show a few more screenshots from different directions so i can know what goes where

The wireframe matters because usually all that happens is a ripped texture is stuck onto a crappy model... don't turn this into a rips thread for god sake.

That magnum model's silhouette looks poor, so I expect a poor model. That's why wireframe is important. because noobs smack ripped textures on and make people who custom paint it ect look crap!

Rips are ok in special cases.
I am alright witrh ripping from the other Halo games for content, which would free up time for better modelers to make custom (non-halo-copying) content.

And I'm pretty sure you can do better eh?

Define better where you just map a already made texture to model... your statement is flawed.

I don't mind ripping textures as bad as models, as long as they are not abused, you should learn from them and use them as references...

I don't want this thread turning into the biped WIP thread which is a bunch of rips.

I've always wondered. Why is it people show off these things and they never come out in a map or something until 5 years later (Or never in some cases)

Cuz they are either lazy, selfish, or don't want others to have their stuff, and finally decide to release it when its value decreases.

Again, it doesn't matter because it looks fine already. It most cases, it only matters what it looks like, not what it looks like with a bunch of lines running over the edges.

you know what would be even better?

if this thread hadn't turned into you complaining about rips

You know what would be even better? If people stopped complaining about the other people who want to take their time so they can learn something from from what they do here.

Edited by eliteslasher on Dec 9, 2010 at 10:40 AM

The silhouette matters and the way its modelled matters as you will be able to see the silhouette of it, and the way its modelled will determine performance.

good job taking what I said and gnarling it around to make me sound like I don't appreciate art bro. big pat on the back, you should be proud. good job

Then why did you make the previous comment at all? Also, just because something is ripped does not mean that it is not art. Just because art may be stolen does not make in any less valuable at the auction. Also, I'm pretty sure I said nowhere that you don't appreciate art. I'm just saying that that comment is really unnecessary when he clearly makes a good point about learning from rips rather than using them so much just to get tags ingame. Sure you should have fun with CE, but people should learn from what they do. Also, the only reason I said something was because your comment was a discussion killer. One of those "why are you getting involved" kinds of comments. Not to say your comment was wrong in that I want to see another ripping argument thread because it will just lead to me and another person in the end arguing then becoming xfire friends and having a jolly good time. (this has happened like at least 3 times I swear to God)

Oh and by the way, saying "big pat on the back" "you should be proud" and that kind of stuff is usually indicative of someone who has no argument whatsoever but covers it up with sarcasm. I recommend if you ever want anyone to take you seriously in life, it would be best to get out of the habit of using such comments in arguments. They detract so much from what you are trying to get across. If you would have said something actually intelligent I may not be writing this stupid two paragraph message about a two sentence comment. I mean sure it's great to be witty, but if you are going to be witty, actually make it about the argument. You know what I saw when I saw that last part of your comment? I saw basically a comment almost as useful as "your mom". Seriously! That's what it makes it sound like.

god dammit :V I blame just waking up and mindlessly posting


I really learned more off ripped biped models and weapons with no uvws, which in turn I learned how to rig bipeds and make uvw unwraps for weapons mostly (not bipeds, still crappy uvws I make when I try).

Oh and I do this ALL on a laptop with no mouse, it's so fun when my finger cramps when uvw unwrapping or rigging bipeds.

OW

A mouse is as good as my hand when in max.

wireframes are incredibly important. When you model your distribution of detail and polygons can affect the outcome of your model. For example, having a 40 sided cylinder as a barrel is entirely unnecessary but you can't tell what the mesh looks like from just seeing a textured model. You need to know how to properly allocate detail in a model and to the normal map so that you aren't wasting resources. Showing a wireframe is the best way to get crit about it.

If one changes the wireframe, won't one have to re-Unwrap it?

Depends on the extent of modifications to the topology of the model, you may only need to make minor changes and redo afew parts.

Just put it in-game. It's Microsoft's anyways.

lol

all this boils down to is rippers are going to rip and nothing's going to stop them so everyone might as well deal with it

those paragraphs you wrote had me laughing quite a bit though, thanks for that

sounds like you don't know what you're arguing about anymore, or even why you're so angry. if I were you I'd stop before this thread gets locked because you thought it necessary to turn my one-sentance opinion into a huge, unecessary argument

>floyd

lol no dude I'm jcap.

oh no you di'int

say goodbye to your modacity account, brosef

Summary of what we were taking about:

anonymous - explaining necessity of wireframe. (had a few good points (expalined please don't make this about ripping))

spartan - (strayed from subtopic of wireframe to talk about painted vs ripped textures)

anonymous - (just trying to defend a opinion)

you - another person coming into a conversation with the "rippers gonna rip derp"
(hmm, didn't anonymous just request you basically to NOT say that kind of thing? hmm. something to ponder.)

me - (Getting pissed because the only reason you came in was to defend people who rip. And it was right after anonymous said not to start that conversation. Me saying your comment was unnecessary)

you - (can't decipher comments and comes up with me saying "you don't appreciate art", ends with basically a your mom type comment)

me - (telling you to read my posts)

you - (rippers gonna rip derp (I guess you felt the need to say it again)) This has strayed a bit from a post about the necessity of wirefram I think.

me - (showing proof in quoted, highlighted form that I never said anything you said i said. Added a comment so we can get back to the topic)

you - Apearently not wanting to get back on topic so you formulate another ditch effort to say that IDK what I am talking about and that I will bring down the thread)


and now for me again.

I said... LEAVE IT AT THAT!
GTF back to the topic because this is going, and started, nowhere since i'm pretty sure anonymous said he didn't want to talk about the merits of ripping before you posted your post that oh so happened to be about none other than the merits of ripping. Fancy that.

You wanna argue and explain further bout how rippers gonna rip, that is what modacity or PM is for.