Edited by peep210 on Dec 2, 2019 at 08:12 PM

Oh i'm sure because someone else just setup a nice excuse for you.

He can't spell available, its not legit.

How about a video, with you encrypting a default map, then using your little app to load Halo.
Edited by Advancebo on Jul 24, 2010 at 03:59 AM

The best way to diagnose is to treat.

You guys talk so much trash about this program. You never bothered to actually download it yourselves and see.

It works how it's supposed to. It's virus free. It does everything it claims to do. I just tested it.

Stop flaming. Stop arguing.

Good night.

Maybe you have crap Virus Protection.

*fist pumps* Thank you Doom! And guy who's name I cannot begin to try and pronounce.
Edited by Echo77 on Jul 24, 2010 at 05:12 AM

Edited by peep210 on Dec 2, 2019 at 08:12 PM

this is useless heres a tip only give it to people u trust and if its a map for 16 players you better trust a ton of people

Edited by peep210 on Dec 2, 2019 at 08:13 PM

I am not going to take the time to analyze your program to see if it is what it says it is so even though the current virus scans do not find something that is and always will be the nature of Trojans lagging behind the scanning tools. So you could have developed a map intercept encrypt utility or you might have some other scanning tool, I can’t tell in the few minutes I looked into it.


However, there is no way in hell I am going to allow someone who created a brand new account and has taken great lengths to hide his identity to link directly to files from this website. If this is a valid working program instead of a scam for hacking emotionally charged teenagers still in the development stages, then stand behind it and include your name and address or a valid email as any respectable software developer would. I don’t know how they do it in Ohio or wherever you may be from but in Wolcott Connecticut that is how it is done.

I've actually beta tested Peep's program before and it works very well. It isn't some damn bug or virus. You people overreact. It doesn't allow the UI to see the map unless you add the code the map maker gives you, and once you have it, input it into the program and it will show up afterward. I tested it about 3 months back.

*mumbles under breath*
If more people just got Avast and Malwarebytes this wouldn't be a problem

1.5 yrs and i still never had a virus
Edited by eliteslasher on Jul 24, 2010 at 03:51 PM

No it isn't harsh. This community is filled with adolescent teens with no impulse control some of who think it is fun to “hack” other people just to show that they can do it and others who have no sense of caution because they are driven by hormone fueled emotions they still can’t control and are easily duped.

Now I can’t determine if this utility is valid or not but I can tell you that any respectable developer who takes any pride whatsoever in what they do would be more than willing to put their name on it and stake their reputation on its use. The way this utility has been presented has been clouded by subterfuge and has been highly suspicious right from the start. And I am not willing to risk MY or this website’s reputation on it given the fact that the owner of the linked domain is private and the email account is from a bulk account when the IP is from a road runner account in Ohio that gives email addresses and the forum account is two days old. If you think I am being harsh then you open your own website spend thousands of your own dollars running it respectably for several years and see if you don’t change your tone.

I think your response has proven my point for me.

Why dont you people just send the file to virustotal.com and see the results...

y not run oit on a VM? wouldn't that be a good way of testing it without screwing something horribly up.i dunno, but Dennis is right, trusting a random new comer that its hiding, ya bit suspicious.

If this was such as good tool why dosen't he post it on his own website? Didn't your parents warn you about taking candy from strangers?

Edited by peep210 on Dec 2, 2019 at 08:13 PM

Really stupid excuses right thar.

Edited by peep210 on Dec 2, 2019 at 08:13 PM

Ok, later.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/FLASHME666/test/freecandy.jpg
Edited by Echo77 on Jul 24, 2010 at 08:42 PM

Okay everyone relax.

Okay peep, I'll be frank. I'm a software developer, you will not be able to fool me if its fake.

Now, you say in your post the map maker will give out the keys. As you should know, giving a generic key out is pretty much as bad as a password. The only real secure way of processing the keys would be to use the hard drive serial and model number in some way. This would mean the person who wants the map, runs an app and generates a unique key using their serial and model number from their hard drive, the app will automatically grab them. The person then would give the key to the map maker, they would then use that and produce a key that only works on that hard drive.

This would mean if any one leaked a key, only the person who that key is intended for, which is tied to their hard drive could do it. Now peep, if your encryptor does not do this, then yours is completely useless and because you are not eliminating the trust factor with key handing out.

If you are using this, which you should. You should easily be able to prove what API's you are using to collect the key, generate the key.

Also you say you encrypt the map into a new file, what type of encryption are you using? Releasing that info will not jeopardize the app, as long as you are careful about how much info you divulge .

A picture of the GUI would be nice, a picture of your IDE with the code loaded would also be nice as proof.

And Dennis is right, any developer that has put this much effort into an app, any one worth their salt would contact Dennis, explain who they are, discuss perhaps their qualifications and experiences. I do not partially love Dennis, yet if he ever asked me I would instantly provide the necessary information.

If your app is not "halo maps certified" it will fail, so you do want to corroborate.

I do not see this as a particularly useful app. I fully trust anyone that I'd give anything, be it information, maps, or tags that I made to. Why? Because I don't hand stuff out to randoms, I hand it out to people that, for example, have given me something as well in the past. I trust anyone that gives me stuff to aim for similar qualifications when doing so.

Nonetheless, the app still works as intended. I think Limited was touching on how the "keys" could still be spread, rendering the app useless. The "keys" aren't actual keys with numbers and letters, they are really just whether or not a person has permission to access the map. Permission is given by the account to which the map is actually tied to, which is all run through peep's private server. No need to check for hard drive serials, because the only way someone could give the map to someone else is to have the login username and password of the account the map is attached to. I don't think someone would be stupid enough to give away their username and password for the app.

I think Dennis is being rather cruel by taking away the links altogether, but I see where he's coming from. If Peep truly supports and stands by his program, he should go for it and provide qualifications, rather than just shrugging it off and saying "Disregard that, I suck chickens"

But then, what do I know, I take showers in people's betas.

So each player of the map, will have their own separate login into the server? Or is there one login per map. You are still risking the fact some one could leak the login credentials.

It also opens up issues with data storage on peeps server, how are they stored? Are they encrypted? Does peep have access to the login details, thus meaning he has ultimate control and can test any map.

At the end of the day its up to the map makers decision of trust, I've tested a ton of maps, both Yoyorasts, Coldsnap, Hugeass, CMT maps, the list goes on. I have never leaked one map, yet sadly not everyone in Halo is that trustworthy.

Everyone gets their own account, and maps are linked to only one account, and that account chooses which other accounts get access to the map.

I like this app. It would allow giving anyone in the community a key to a beta and not have to worry about it being sent around to others. Being safe is always better than sorry. It also makes it so you don't have to worry about people playing older builds when newer ones are available. Plus, people say only give betas out to only the people you trust. I could probably count all the people I trust on my fingers and it's hard to gather alot of imformation quick enough to decide on gameplay changes with that amount of testers. Only thing is someone needs to make this program work properly.

Edited by peep210 on Dec 2, 2019 at 08:13 PM

There is still a link to his website. If he was standing behind his app you would expect to obtain the download link to his app from there.

Posting it ONLY here is suspicious by itself and if I left the links it would look like I endorsed it. I never said I would stop his distribution I only said he couldn't distribute it through this website ESPECIALLY since he has his own.

If it is not legitimate then I don't want it here, if it is legitimate then he presented it wrong trying to gain credibility by the virtue of this website and I don't want it here.