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pakar45
Joined: Sep 21, 2008

Hi


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 07:26 AM    Msg. 1 of 140       
This weapon was made by H3T, and was ripped from the map h3t_coagulation_PB2, by Pakar45.

Model made by Kenny, animations made by FRain
Do not flame.

download link:

mirror:


just merge your tags folder, all the tags will be under hce\tags

have fun!

EDIT: weapon name is E7FB0687.weapon

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=250yD7Y0ADI

Edited by pakar45 on Jul 19, 2010 at 01:33 PM
Edited by pakar45 on Jul 19, 2010 at 02:30 PM
Edited by pakar45 on Jul 20, 2010 at 11:59 AM


Invader Veex
Joined: Apr 11, 2007

i make poast


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 09:22 AM    Msg. 2 of 140       
GTFO. Did kenny say you could release his model? I don't think so.


pakar45
Joined: Sep 21, 2008

Hi


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 09:25 AM    Msg. 3 of 140       
I gave credit, and I released it. CREDIT.


DarkHalo003
Joined: Mar 10, 2008

All ARs Need Green Little Buttons.


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 09:33 AM    Msg. 4 of 140       
Quote: --- Original message by: pakar45
I gave credit, and I released it. CREDIT.

Did Kenny give you permission to release the model? If he didn't then remove the links and crap. That's like me making a sculptured masterpiece and you auctioning it off saying that it belongs to me when I didn't want it sold.


pakar45
Joined: Sep 21, 2008

Hi


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 09:35 AM    Msg. 5 of 140       
Did you see the ripping thread? Look at Donuts post and Grunt's post.


here lemme grab em.

donut's post:

Sigh.

I thought I ended this discussion long ago.

Apparently war never changes on these forums. It's always "RIPPING IS BAD" and "NO RIPPING IS GOOD" etc etc

Why is it people can be so thick? Let me tell both sides how it is.

For the non-rippers, have you ANY idea whatsoever how hard it can be to rip an asset from another video game? You have to know reverse engineering, which might take quite a bit to fully grasp, then you have to understand the model/bitmap format, which might take longer if no resource is available/made public. THEN, you have to make your own extractor, if there are none available/made public. It takes TONS and TONS of effort and work to fully understand how a video game works, and to extract something from it is the fruit of your labor.

For the rippers, you must realize that ripping something does not make it your own. It is not your creation, you extracted it from another game. What these people are complaining about is because for them they take their time creating something from their ideas. While you just take the "easy" way out in their eyes.

Both sides have legitimate reasons, but I for one am quite sick of all this ranting/flaming going around in this god forsaken community (The HCE community, ALL of it as a whole)

That is all I am going to say. If this discussion EVER comes back, you will see this post once again.

This has been posted at least 2 times already.

grunts post:

Quote: --- Original message by: CLS_GRUNT
WHY DO YOU CARE!

Spartan is modding a 7 year old game, on his free time, for fun. Stop trying to force what you think down peoples necks. If they choose to rip LET THEM RIP, it doesn't affect you nor anyone else.

This goes out to the rest of you as well, stop trying to correct people for the actions they have taken while modding this game, after all that's all it is, a game.

I am going to quote this again, because most of seem to have some sort of reading disability (among other kinds of disabilities)
Quote: --- Original message by: CLS_GRUNT
WHY DO YOU CARE!

Spartan is modding a 7 year old game, on his free time, for fun. Stop trying to force what you think down peoples necks. If they choose to rip LET THEM RIP, it doesn't affect you nor anyone else.

This goes out to the rest of you as well, stop trying to correct people for the actions they have taken while modding this game, after all that's all it is, a game.

Now I made the post bigger and gave it a red color because I read preteens are more likely to pay attention to something if its color coded and bigger.

If any of you have anything else you want to say, don't, because there is nothing else to say. Anything else you do say is wrong and will make you look dumb, and no one wants to look dumb do they? (except half the people in this thread apparently) (inb4 someone quotes this post and adds INCLUDING YOU LOL)

Now you might be all thinking "gee whiz gwunty, why do YOU care"
I don't, its two am in the morning and half my friends are passed out on the couch ( and one on the stairs) and due to me being the designated driver of the night, I was unable to join the festivities and am now posting on this forum because im board.

but no one cares and I made my point, so goodnight.

edit: who is kenny?

There is no rules that say that I can't release it.
Edited by pakar45 on Jul 19, 2010 at 09:36 AM
Edited by pakar45 on Jul 19, 2010 at 09:39 AM


DarkHalo003
Joined: Mar 10, 2008

All ARs Need Green Little Buttons.


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 09:38 AM    Msg. 6 of 140       
I'm just stating that at others' discretion, you could have at least figured out a way to ask permission before releasing, granted this IS a 7 year old game, it's still the polite and correct way to release something. Also, you're not ripping from another video game, you're just unprotecting a map and taking a tag from it. HUGE difference.


pakar45
Joined: Sep 21, 2008

Hi


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 09:40 AM    Msg. 7 of 140       
I know it is a huge difference, but I have never heard of a "kenny" or knew he made the model, he probably isn't even around anymore either.


032 Mendicant Bias
Joined: Feb 25, 2010

Magnum periculum est elit.


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 10:03 AM    Msg. 8 of 140       
Quote: --- Original message by: pakar45
I know it is a huge difference, but I have never heard of a "kenny" or knew he made the model, he probably isn't even around anymore either.

Kenny made the ma5k model for CMT, But H3T ended up using it...
Edited by 032 Mendicant Bias on Jul 19, 2010 at 10:22 AM


pakar45
Joined: Sep 21, 2008

Hi


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 10:13 AM    Msg. 9 of 140       
Okay.


ODX
Joined: Jul 26, 2007

A rare sight, indeed.


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 10:16 AM    Msg. 10 of 140       
Kenny is a well respected member of the community, and doing something like this is not a very good idea.

...if it were 2 years ago >_>

I'm sure today he's perfectly fine with it, and FRain probably doesn't give a crap about those animations anymore (they're bad anyway). I've even gotten an easy hold on the model, I forget from who though, but it's OK I suppose:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVs0cyE_3TE


Newbkilla
Joined: Mar 9, 2008

- Artist, Environment Artist, Level Designer -


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 10:23 AM    Msg. 11 of 140       
by releasing this, your feeding the noobs inspiration for more bg mods.


pakar45
Joined: Sep 21, 2008

Hi


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 10:29 AM    Msg. 12 of 140       
Sorry, just trying to get content out of maps, I can't model. I have tried and have watched tons of tutorials and still fail at it.


Newbkilla
Joined: Mar 9, 2008

- Artist, Environment Artist, Level Designer -


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 10:31 AM    Msg. 13 of 140       
Because you fail at everything else doesn't resolve all your problems by pissing other people off by releasing THEIR CONTENT without their consent.


pakar45
Joined: Sep 21, 2008

Hi


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 10:32 AM    Msg. 14 of 140       
well maybe if they were on xfire and or checked their email everyday just maybe I would. It depends.


Newbkilla
Joined: Mar 9, 2008

- Artist, Environment Artist, Level Designer -


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 10:34 AM    Msg. 15 of 140       
then don't release it at all. all you were trying to do here was gain ripping respect and popularity but failed to realize that 95% of the forum here is against ripping.


pakar45
Joined: Sep 21, 2008

Hi


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 10:39 AM    Msg. 16 of 140       
No. I am actually ripping and releasing the tags so we have more to use in maps/more resources to use in maps. I don't want popularity or fame. I do it for fun. Not to look "cool" or "Pro".


Newbkilla
Joined: Mar 9, 2008

- Artist, Environment Artist, Level Designer -


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 10:44 AM    Msg. 17 of 140       
so it's fun to piss people off the internet i see?


pakar45
Joined: Sep 21, 2008

Hi


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 10:46 AM    Msg. 18 of 140       
=\ I would like to stop fighting, and I mod halo custom edition for fun. That is what I meant. So stop flaming me and or ripping and go away if you don't like it.


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 10:55 AM    Msg. 19 of 140       
You could at least respect the wishes of other people. If you were to rip it and keep it for yourself without showing it off to anyone, no one would know, and no one would care. By releasing it and saying that you're trying to have fun in CE just shows that your definition of enjoyment is to annoy the hell out of other people.


KappaLocust
Joined: Nov 28, 2009

Not MattDratt


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 11:30 AM    Msg. 20 of 140       
This is why people shouldn't protect, then their stuff doesn't get leak.
Go ahead and keep on ripping Pakar


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 11:31 AM    Msg. 21 of 140       
This is why people don't want to release.


KappaLocust
Joined: Nov 28, 2009

Not MattDratt


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 11:34 AM    Msg. 22 of 140       
Well if their to selfish to not release anything because they don't want to leave their stuff that their not making any money off of to be leaked... Then go ahead and not release it. We don't need you here.


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 11:37 AM    Msg. 23 of 140       
Selfish; fine. People are inherently selfish. You are selfish. I'm selfish. Everyone in the world is selfish to some degree. There is no benevolent super person who's free of all character flaws. If someone wishes to keep their stuff unreleased to the public, that's their wish. Those who want to rip it under the false banner of "sharing" are also selfish, as they want what they can't have. If they weren't selfish, then why wouldn't they respect the wishes of those who want to protect. So yes, call those who protect selfish, but those who rip are also selfish.

No MP ODST for joo >:[


KappaLocust
Joined: Nov 28, 2009

Not MattDratt


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 11:39 AM    Msg. 24 of 140       
Don't argue me Gamma, you know what can happen again I might still have the layout somewhere on my desktop
Edited by KappaLocust on Jul 19, 2010 at 11:40 AM


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 11:40 AM    Msg. 25 of 140       
Of course I know what you can do. But what does it matter if we don't release? :0

Threats aren't the way to go if you wish to resolve an age-old argument. It'll just go to show what other character flaws you have.
Edited by Gamma927 on Jul 19, 2010 at 11:41 AM


KappaLocust
Joined: Nov 28, 2009

Not MattDratt


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 11:42 AM    Msg. 26 of 140       
Oh I flaws. I never said I dont..........................
Threats are the way to gooooo! GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...
Edited by KappaLocust on Jul 19, 2010 at 11:44 AM


Newbkilla
Joined: Mar 9, 2008

- Artist, Environment Artist, Level Designer -


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 11:45 AM    Msg. 27 of 140       
ahhhhhh huge argument debate. hope this thread gets deleted so this link doesn't reach everyone.


KappaLocust
Joined: Nov 28, 2009

Not MattDratt


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 11:47 AM    Msg. 28 of 140       
Go unprotectors!


ODX
Joined: Jul 26, 2007

A rare sight, indeed.


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 12:39 PM    Msg. 29 of 140       
Quote: --- Original message by: Newbkilla
ahhhhhh huge argument debate. hope this thread gets deleted so this link doesn't reach everyone.
What the hell is wrong with you?

Did anyone even read my post?:
Quote: --- Original message by: ODX
Kenny is a well respected member of the community, and doing something like this is not a very good idea.

...if it were 2 years ago >_>

I'm sure today he's perfectly fine with it, and FRain probably doesn't give a crap about those animations anymore (they're bad anyway). I've even gotten an easy hold on the model, I forget from who though, but it's OK I suppose:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVs0cyE_3TE


I mean honestly, you even posted right after my post, did you seriously even read it?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this little release. The community just gained a nice new custom made weapon for people to skin, or perhaps animate (as I have already done), tag and get in-game. Perhaps release.


Heck if someone skins it well, I'll even animate it fully and do it myself. This is a really nice weapon and deserves some recognition.


pakar45
Joined: Sep 21, 2008

Hi


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 12:49 PM    Msg. 30 of 140       
Erm if this topic gets deleted, I have already uploaded it to halomaps.org ftp =\ and I will continue to rip,except DMT maps.


Newbkilla
Joined: Mar 9, 2008

- Artist, Environment Artist, Level Designer -


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 12:53 PM    Msg. 31 of 140       
you missed the meaning of my post. derp. then you proceed to trying and flame me. i didn't read your post. I was too busy arguing with someone else. or maybe you missed that like i did your post. or we could all wait until someone rips the sandtrap tagset and have a decent ar as well. that requires no effort on your half. look, these rippers are determined to steal other peoples stuff, theres no way around it. go ahead and do you thing and fix the ar, but just remember that they are going to rip a better ar. I said delete this thread because all the noobs are gonna poor in and take the CRAPPY version of the AR and start distributing BG mods. That's the last thing we need in this community.


ODX
Joined: Jul 26, 2007

A rare sight, indeed.


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 12:56 PM    Msg. 32 of 140       
Quote: --- Original message by: Newbkilla
CRAPPY version of the AR
..wait

Quote: --- Original message by: Newbkilla
AR
...


You really aren't paying attention at all, too caught up in whining about ripping >_>
THIS IS AN Ma5K, it is NOT an AR/Ma5C.

And at that, the best Ma5K made even if it is 2 years old. The only thing crappy about this weapon is the animations though, but like I said if someone skins it I will animate it fully and release.


Codebrain
Joined: Sep 29, 2007

/meme


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 01:03 PM    Msg. 33 of 140       
Uh, That was me who posted that. Not donut lol


Slayer117
Joined: Oct 3, 2008

Host of CE3 2010-forever!


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 01:03 PM    Msg. 34 of 140       
Quote: --- Original message by: pakar45
Erm if this topic gets deleted, I have already uploaded it to halomaps.org ftp =\ and I will continue to rip,except DMT maps.


Wait werent you against Ripping a while back. like heck you Always Flamed the Halo CE Ripper in fact didnt you say you tried to shut down his site? And now your ripping again, *sigh*


pakar45
Joined: Sep 21, 2008

Hi


Posted: Jul 19, 2010 01:15 PM    Msg. 35 of 140       
Yes I am.This community needs more resources.

 
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