Well, I got this problem, I know how to make fog now.. (well the 3ds max and tool part) I made a plane, called it fog_plane_edge$, and also the material, applied the material, linked to the "frame" and then compiled in tool, without problems.

However, when I go in Sapien, when I try to apply fog, I CAN'T, it says: press SPACE to apply cluster.. I got render planes checked.. and set the transparency to 0%.. Now .. I still can't see it.

And whenever I go in Guerilla, when I open my .scenario_strucutre_bsp and I check out the: "Fog Planes" thingy.. it says there are none -.-

I'm getting pissed :D, been working on the fog longer then the level now -.-

Help would be appreciated..

Edited by Sharp1337X on Dec 10, 2009 at 09:26 AM

why another topic!?

make sure it's linked to the frame as a separate object. if that doesn't work i guess you could try to attach it to the bsp but i dont think that works.

in tool, if you did it right, you'll get errors like "clipped leaves" and should be some info in the clusters because there will be 2 if you add fog. check for that in your debug text or in the bsp tag in geurilla.

also, if you get rid of your the fog tag you made and don't have one at all tool will create a default fog tag called untitled.fog in the tags folder. if it's not there it's set up wrong in max.

follow the Level Creation Part 2 and Population sections of the HEK like i told you before: http://hce.halomaps.org/hek/

it's just like setting up water only your not calling it water!$ and your not using that shader.

Because the topic was kind of.. dead..

The material name should be:
+unused$

Oh.. I thought just: *materialname*$ (without the *)

thanks, I'll try when I get back from school :)
Edited by Sharp1337X on Dec 11, 2009 at 02:33 AM

EDIT: OK NOW IM PISSED!

I can see my plane in Sapien, applied the fog, (it shows green)

I CANT SEE MY FOG! I EVEN RE-RAN LIGHTMAPS... UGH.. I GIVE UP IF NO ONE ANSWERS..
Edited by Sharp1337X on Dec 11, 2009 at 02:12 PM

in game or in sapien?

Restart sapien. You won't see it when you first do it.

guess how many times I tried that? :D

you might have a stupid video card, mine is..i can't see fog. get someone to test it ingame and see if its there.

I can see the fog in Geph... Whatever it's called (Bridge scareness) lol..

Uhmm.. I also used THAT .fog tag..

But I can't see my own, (The cluster IS green btw) so it IS applied

the cluster is green because of the checkbox in the tool window.

make sure the camera is completely inside the cluster and that you save to bsp in sapien before you close the palette.

well, I did.. Weird thing is when a cluster is applied the plane will be painted.. So isn't your statement wrong?
Also does it matter if my fog plane has 2 triangles?

maybe i could be wrong about that...this is all from memory..i haven't used fog in a while i just know the way i did it worked.

a single plane with 2 tris is ideal..depending on the geometry of the area you're portaling for fog.

something isn't right though, it sounds like you've got it set up correctly.

are you using a custom fog tag or did you copy-paste-rename one from the campaign? is it possible that your fog is applied but the tag is not set up properly so that the fog is essentially not fog (or just too thin to have an effect)?

Wait, I'll tell you what I've done:

1. I made my map in 3ds max xD (Duh)
2. I made a plane, gave it 2 tris by adding an edge through the middle,
3. I attached the plane to the level, then I linked the level to the frame.
4. I named the material of the plane +unused$,
5. I ran my bitmaps in tool
6. I made shaders of them..
7. I ran structure in tool WITHOUT errors, not even the one you told me about: Clipping
through non-leaves..
8. I opened my .scenario tag, did the standard process (Set to multiplayer, add sky)
9. I ran lightmaps, which was a screw up thanks to the fail model of my cliffs. (I fixed)
10. I made my own lightmaps (just grey tinted xD)
11. I Added the Gephyrophobia.fog to my fog pallette, and saved the tag to my level,
12. Saved the structure_bsp to make sure that's done right,
13. I opened my Fog, under cluster properties.. I set it to the name: Fog_bottom (Which I
gave it in step 11)
14. Applied the cluster
15. I saved the structure_bsp again..
16. Re-opened Sapien..
17. After it loaded the fog wasn't there, so I re-ran lightmaps..
18. Not there :( (Wasn't my custom lightmap, just the real ones..)
19. Again, Made me :C

ok, i just checked out one of my levels that has working fog and it's not set up that way although tuts i have seen claim it won't show up if it's not...all lies :p

my fog plane is actually water but it shouldn't make a difference. the geometry and the material should both be named +unused$ although im not entirely certain the geometry couldn't be named "fog" because the material name should override. the geometry should then be linked to the frame, not attached to the level.

in mine i have level, water!$, and waterfall!$ all linked to the frame and that works.

E: my material name isn't water!$ but it does have the !$ shader symbols. only the geometry has that name. since specific geometry defines the fog region (normals) i'm thinking it's more to do with your model setup. there are different types of portal defining geometries/materials but they are specific in what they are for. i don't know if sapien will always recognize this and simply treat clusters the same even though the property being applied will not work.



rename the tag to something else.



also, open the bsp in guerilla and scroll down to the fog section to see if "fog_bottom" is listed.

E2: see if this has fog, if it does then i can give you the files so you can look at the setup
http://www.4shared.com/file/174707171/84425d3e/fog_box.html

Edited by sleepy1212 on Dec 16, 2009 at 05:47 PM
Edited by sleepy1212 on Dec 16, 2009 at 07:19 PM

Hmmm, thanks for the reply!

I renamed the fog tag, everything is listed in guerilla and
I must just try the fog plane apart thing..

Also I'm going to delete the middle eddge, just to see if it makes any difference ;)

were you able to see fog in the map file i linked?

I think I replied right at the moment you edited your post ;)

W8, I'll try :)

EDIT: It works, btw huntr skin walls? :D
Edited by Sharp1337X on Dec 17, 2009 at 11:09 AM

uhhhh...ummm...i thought you'd like it since you made your cliffs bleed. yeah.

ok since it works i'll link up the files so you can see the setup.

E: http://www.4shared.com/file/175477352/be3a1f62/fog_box_files.html

Edited by sleepy1212 on Dec 17, 2009 at 06:00 PM

Lol, thanks, but hey, I didn't change my shaders yet ;) That's why they bleed xD

i did that once with an underwater tunnel and it gushed purple blood at the end

Haha, lol, anyway I haven't tried it out yet, I went to Avatar 3D, great movie ^_^

EDIT: Oh ye, thanks for all the great help :)
EDIT2: Ok, it worked, same method as I used on my mac (on real PC now) So it could be my mac, thanks anyway :)
Edited by Sharp1337X on Dec 19, 2009 at 06:03 AM