
9killerprime
Joined: Mar 22, 2008
Bwuahahahaahahha I am the Bastroyer! Muahahahahaha
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Posted: Sep 27, 2009 04:33 PM
Msg. 36 of 98
who what where........ Ugh I've been playing Halo 3 what I miss?
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Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008
Steam: gamma927
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Posted: Sep 27, 2009 06:38 PM
Msg. 37 of 98
DSalimander's video doesn't show the most effective ways to rip tags, and I believe that HaloCERipper knew how to rip long before that video.
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Lone Warrior
Joined: Dec 14, 2008
-Himalayan Wizard and Mystical Guru of the Mts.-
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Posted: Sep 27, 2009 07:14 PM
Msg. 38 of 98
Quote: --- Original message by: Marka Haiyana As far as I know, protection is unheard of in any modding community other than Halo.
Even then, nobody in the community gives a crap if you rip their models. Edited by Marka Haiyana on Sep 26, 2009 at 09:24 PM This.
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9killerprime
Joined: Mar 22, 2008
Bwuahahahaahahha I am the Bastroyer! Muahahahahaha
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Posted: Sep 28, 2009 03:57 PM
Msg. 39 of 98
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ChocolateNugget
Joined: Sep 29, 2007
im your #1 fan !!
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Posted: Sep 28, 2009 04:05 PM
Msg. 40 of 98
The reason people in the Halo CE community protect their maps is because there are so many immature little brats in this community that like to take credit for other people's work. Have you ever searched for Halo on the google warehouse? Like 70% of those models were taken from here, or another person's map. When you call them out, their little buttbuddies come and yell at you in 'txt tlk' or '1337 speak'.
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RougeSpartan414
Joined: Sep 24, 2007
Angatar, the Iron-Father.
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Posted: Sep 28, 2009 04:10 PM
Msg. 41 of 98
And credit matters... Why? Once it's a tag, it's Microsoft/Bungies...
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9killerprime
Joined: Mar 22, 2008
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Posted: Sep 28, 2009 04:15 PM
Msg. 42 of 98
cause it's nice to give people credit for what they made.
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anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009
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Posted: Sep 28, 2009 04:54 PM
Msg. 43 of 98
Quote: --- Original message by: RougeSpartan414 And credit matters... Why? Once it's a tag, it's Microsoft/Bungies... Legally it is theres, why does everyone revert to that stupid law as an excuse, its getting old. Socially the tags belong to be auther. And of course credit matters. Tard. Would you like to work on something for hours on end then some kid with glasses, goofy teeth and is classed at the school retard take credit for something you worked on for ages? Then the retard gives well known because people think he made it? People should get the credit they deserve. Derr....
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Donut
Joined: Sep 30, 2006
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Posted: Sep 28, 2009 05:27 PM
Msg. 44 of 98
Quote: --- Original message by: RougeSpartan414 Nothing is done until it is perfect, which is impossible. If you don't want your tags released, why'd you release a map with them? are you being serious right now?
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9killerprime
Joined: Mar 22, 2008
Bwuahahahaahahha I am the Bastroyer! Muahahahahaha
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Posted: Sep 28, 2009 06:39 PM
Msg. 45 of 98
People give credit to people for their hard work Don't just say OH Look what I made ( Though i ripped it I'm gonna say its mine) it looks awesome doesn't it! thats right because I'm awesome.................That's probably what the people who rip Cmt tags think. Edited by 9killerprime on Sep 28, 2009 at 06:40 PM
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CorruptedHalo
Joined: May 18, 2009
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Posted: Sep 28, 2009 08:20 PM
Msg. 46 of 98
platypus. Seriously guys. its like OMG! HE R RIPPPPPED MEH TAGS! GET TEH SHAWTGUNZ! If he rips the tags, disregard him. its not too big a deal. Edited by CorruptedHalo on Sep 28, 2009 at 08:21 PM
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Donut
Joined: Sep 30, 2006
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Posted: Sep 28, 2009 08:36 PM
Msg. 47 of 98
its more than just "he stole my tags", its the assumption that those tags will magically make the map a success. it leads people in a very wrong direction. i would love to see more people make fun custom maps that other people play. also while you GET TEH SHAWTGUNZ, remember that the other guy has them too 
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Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007
@lucasgovatos
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Posted: Sep 28, 2009 08:39 PM
Msg. 48 of 98
Quote: --- Original message by: DrattQuote: --- Original message by: UnevenElefant5 Look, I'm all for sharing tags. If the creator wants too. If the map creator leaves his map open, then great for him. People should be encouraged to rip from open maps so they can learn. But if it's protected, leave it alone and try it yourself. You may not like it now, I didn't when I was new, but later on you'll appreciate it. For example, when I just joined, I was desperate for that flame hog in immure2. I wanted it so badly, that I tried to make it myself. Granted, it didn't look as nice, but I made it. And I learned a lot about vehicles in the process, and in retrospect I'm glad I took the time to learn it. Ive actually learns alot from ripping... Odd. ]Such as stuff like Shaders, Guerilla overall, A bit on Models, and bit on Animations Edited by Dratt on Sep 26, 2009 at 08:34 PM Just becuase your learning doesn't mean you need to leak them good sir. Edited by Higuy on Sep 28, 2009 at 08:39 PM
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UnevenElefant5
Joined: May 3, 2008
its been fun yall, i'll never forget this site :')
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Posted: Sep 28, 2009 08:39 PM
Msg. 49 of 98
Quote: --- Original message by: RougeSpartan414 And credit matters... Why? Once it's a tag, it's Microsoft/Bungies... Ok, so, you invent teleportation. Someone steals it and gets all the praise. Does credit matter now? Yeah, the tag belongs to bungie, but the author is the one who made it hence why they are getting credit for it...
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Dark
Joined: Nov 10, 2008
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Posted: Sep 28, 2009 08:42 PM
Msg. 50 of 98
I use cmt tags in my map because it causes this and this makes me LUL
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Donut
Joined: Sep 30, 2006
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Posted: Sep 28, 2009 08:50 PM
Msg. 51 of 98
Quote: --- Original message by: Dark I use cmt tags in my map because it causes this and this makes me LUL congratulations johnny, you get to be famous today. johnny here is exhibiting what we in the field of psychology know as "passive aggressiveness". extensive psychological testing of johnny will allow us to further understand the causes, effects, and tendencies of people with this passive aggressive tendency. this is a fine day in the world of mental studies on a more serious note, i have read good arguments for map protection, and good arguments against it. that is by far the most selfish reason i have ever seen. it also shows that all you guys who are calling map protectors "selfish" arnt so innocent yourselves. causing mayhem because its fun. bravo, you have just contributed to the great schism of the halo ce community. oh and btw, inciting a riot is a serious crime here in the states. what flies on the internet doesnt do so well in the real world. something to keep in mind when that aggressive tinge comes back later.
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Dark
Joined: Nov 10, 2008
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Posted: Sep 28, 2009 08:54 PM
Msg. 52 of 98
Quote: --- Original message by: DonutQuote: --- Original message by: Dark I use cmt tags in my map because it causes this and this makes me LUL congratulations johnny, you get to be famous today. johnny here is exhibiting what we in the field of psychology know as "passive aggressiveness". extensive psychological testing of johnny will allow us to further understand the causes, effects, and tendencies of people with this passive aggressive tendency. this is a fine day in the world of mental studies on a more serious note, i have read good arguments for map protection, and good arguments against it. that is by far the most selfish reason i have ever seen. it also shows that all you guys who are calling map protectors "selfish" arnt so innocent yourselves. causing mayhem because its fun. bravo, you have just contributed to the great schism of the halo ce community. oh and btw, inciting a riot is a serious crime here in the states. what flies on the internet doesnt do so well in the real world. something to keep in mind when that aggressive tinge comes back later. im not really "aggressive" its just hilarious seeing you guys acting like this :D
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anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009
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Posted: Sep 28, 2009 08:56 PM
Msg. 53 of 98
Quote: --- Original message by: Dark I use cmt tags in my map because it causes this and this makes me LUL Wow, this guy is cool. /sarcasim These kind of people are not welcome in this community as you are pathetic and need to get a life tbqh.
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Dark
Joined: Nov 10, 2008
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Posted: Sep 28, 2009 09:00 PM
Msg. 54 of 98
so im aggressive not welcome and pathetic.... im touched really Edited by Dark on Sep 28, 2009 at 09:00 PM
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Donut
Joined: Sep 30, 2006
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Posted: Sep 28, 2009 09:04 PM
Msg. 55 of 98
Quote: --- Original message by: DarkQuote: --- Original message by: DonutQuote: --- Original message by: Dark I use cmt tags in my map because it causes this and this makes me LUL congratulations johnny, you get to be famous today. johnny here is exhibiting what we in the field of psychology know as "passive aggressiveness". extensive psychological testing of johnny will allow us to further understand the causes, effects, and tendencies of people with this passive aggressive tendency. this is a fine day in the world of mental studies on a more serious note, i have read good arguments for map protection, and good arguments against it. that is by far the most selfish reason i have ever seen. it also shows that all you guys who are calling map protectors "selfish" arnt so innocent yourselves. causing mayhem because its fun. bravo, you have just contributed to the great schism of the halo ce community. oh and btw, inciting a riot is a serious crime here in the states. what flies on the internet doesnt do so well in the real world. something to keep in mind when that aggressive tinge comes back later. im not really "aggressive" its just hilarious seeing you guys acting like this :D if you want the god honest truth, we studied passive aggressive tendencies in psych today and iv been looking for an output of that quote for a few hours now. dont take it personally
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Dark
Joined: Nov 10, 2008
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Posted: Sep 28, 2009 09:07 PM
Msg. 56 of 98
Quote: --- Original message by: DonutQuote: --- Original message by: DarkQuote: --- Original message by: DonutQuote: --- Original message by: Dark I use cmt tags in my map because it causes this and this makes me LUL congratulations johnny, you get to be famous today. johnny here is exhibiting what we in the field of psychology know as "passive aggressiveness". extensive psychological testing of johnny will allow us to further understand the causes, effects, and tendencies of people with this passive aggressive tendency. this is a fine day in the world of mental studies on a more serious note, i have read good arguments for map protection, and good arguments against it. that is by far the most selfish reason i have ever seen. it also shows that all you guys who are calling map protectors "selfish" arnt so innocent yourselves. causing mayhem because its fun. bravo, you have just contributed to the great schism of the halo ce community. oh and btw, inciting a riot is a serious crime here in the states. what flies on the internet doesnt do so well in the real world. something to keep in mind when that aggressive tinge comes back later. im not really "aggressive" its just hilarious seeing you guys acting like this :D if you want the god honest truth, we studied passive aggressive tendencies in psych today and iv been looking for an output of that quote for a few hours now. dont take it personally oh wow that would have been nice a few minutes ago..
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malard
Joined: Apr 12, 2009
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Posted: Sep 28, 2009 09:08 PM
Msg. 57 of 98
Quote: --- Original message by: Dark I use cmt tags in my map because it causes this and this makes me LUL How can this make u laugh up loud?
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Donut
Joined: Sep 30, 2006
I swear I'm not actually dead
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Posted: Sep 28, 2009 09:21 PM
Msg. 58 of 98
i also found myself asking that question.
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CLS_GRUNT
Joined: Jan 21, 2007
Old
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Posted: Sep 28, 2009 09:36 PM
Msg. 59 of 98
I really wish i could release that unprotector.
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Dark
Joined: Nov 10, 2008
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Posted: Sep 28, 2009 09:43 PM
Msg. 60 of 98
you guys make me lol
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9killerprime
Joined: Mar 22, 2008
Bwuahahahaahahha I am the Bastroyer! Muahahahahaha
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Posted: Sep 28, 2009 09:59 PM
Msg. 61 of 98
UGGG Hulk smash HCE RIPPER!!!!!!!!!
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DarkHalo003
Joined: Mar 10, 2008
All ARs Need Green Little Buttons.
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Posted: Sep 28, 2009 10:57 PM
Msg. 62 of 98
You know that if the creator remains pissy over this crap, it just fans the flames? That's all that half of these kids are; people who get laughs out of other's dismays over the internet.
Do what CMT decided to do; stop giving a damn if something gets leaked. Sure, it happens, but instead of crying over spilled milk, just tell people to ask for permission before use. That's how you kill it. Now I'm pro open-source, so before someone says that I jsut want to clarify that I think open source is a better option. However, if someone wants it protected, keep it protected at the discretion of the person. But for the people who's maps have been ripped, suck it up and act cool.
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RougeSpartan414
Joined: Sep 24, 2007
Angatar, the Iron-Father.
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Posted: Sep 30, 2009 04:17 AM
Msg. 63 of 98
Quote: --- Original message by: DonutQuote: --- Original message by: RougeSpartan414 Nothing is done until it is perfect, which is impossible. If you don't want your tags released, why'd you release a map with them? are you being serious right now? Yes. Nothing is perfect, and if you don't want something to be released, why the hell would you release it?
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Marka Haiyana
Joined: Mar 24, 2009
w0rt
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Posted: Sep 30, 2009 04:24 AM
Msg. 64 of 98
the fact that this argument is still going on is ridiculous, face the fact that if you release a map and it's protected, someone may take it upon themselves to unprotect it. The same way ZTeam reverse engineered Halo 2 and Halo 3, and now even Halo ODST assets.
And I sure as hell don't see Bungie going ballistic over their hard work being ripped.
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CorruptedHalo
Joined: May 18, 2009
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Posted: Sep 30, 2009 12:55 PM
Msg. 65 of 98
this topic is all tl;dr and the same arguments are thrown up in each new post except longer. Seriously people, protect it if you want to, or don't. Rip if you want to, or don't. But please, for the love of all that is sacred, don't waster Dennis's bandwidth over it.
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anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009
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Posted: Sep 30, 2009 02:58 PM
Msg. 66 of 98
You the ironic thing about that...
CMT = Custom Mapping Team... So, CMT do NOT rip, they make it them selves...
ZTeam rip. Get your facts right.. lulz.
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Koo294
Joined: Nov 30, 2008
How is she when she doesn't surf?
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Posted: Sep 30, 2009 04:39 PM
Msg. 67 of 98
I don't believe H3MT rips either.
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Donut
Joined: Sep 30, 2006
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Posted: Sep 30, 2009 04:49 PM
Msg. 68 of 98
Quote: --- Original message by: RougeSpartan414Quote: --- Original message by: DonutQuote: --- Original message by: RougeSpartan414 Nothing is done until it is perfect, which is impossible. If you don't want your tags released, why'd you release a map with them? are you being serious right now? Yes. Nothing is perfect, and if you don't want something to be released, why the hell would you release it? you are starting a semantics argument by taking the term "perfect" literally. its as if you didnt read a single thing arteen posted or use an ounce of logical reasoning. cmt is making a mod of the campaign, that mod being one of the most anticipated halo mod ever. i would think that they want it to be as good as they can get it, right? who better to test it out than the community who will be playing it? its called a public beta for a reason. they released a beta so they could get input from the community on ways to improve their highly anticipated mod. obviously their stuff wont be "perfect" unless they test it out. as far as ripping said tags, in the event they ever decide to release any of their tags (which they HAVE done before), why would you want incomplete and unbalanced tags? people who rip the cmt beta tags are just going to have old versions of the stuff that will be released in the final. if you count the stuff from earlier cmt maps, we would have 5 different cmt tagsets floating around. now how confusing is that? please use more rational thought when posting k thanks. E: lol at that "dude" guys stupidity Edited by Donut on Sep 30, 2009 at 04:50 PM
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anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009
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Posted: Sep 30, 2009 04:50 PM
Msg. 69 of 98
I do not know/care if Doan rips... haloceripper rips... so, why care about HDoan ripping?
The thing about ZTeam is that they add custom to the stuff they rip, they spend a LOT of hard work to make the rips look good and work good...
Most people RIP from Halo 3 or something and make it look like crap because they don't know what they are doing and suck. ZTeam just make everything they touch look sexy.
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9killerprime
Joined: Mar 22, 2008
Bwuahahahaahahha I am the Bastroyer! Muahahahahaha
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Posted: Sep 30, 2009 04:59 PM
Msg. 70 of 98
UGGGG heres a solution how about dennis solves this and says if this argument is stupid
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