its comparible to the 4870x2 since the 4870x2 has more memory for high res situations

does NVIDIA GeForce 6100 play best with all high or maybe med?
or y'all raather advice me to buy another vid card?

Oh yeah read this
http://www.overclock.net/graphics-cards-general/449484-4870x2-vs-gtx-295-need-get.html
Edited by aklass on Aug 8, 2009 at 01:36 AM

ugh, do u think id believe wut sum uninformed moron says on a forum (referring to your link) vs legit tests that have been proven on actual machines instead of educated guesses from people? well your wrong, sorry. heres the REAL source of the link i sent earlier. http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11014&Itemid=40&limit=1&limitstart=1

thats the nail that seals the coffin right there. lets talk about something else. lol

that forum is the same people who you linked too for your review. Plus these reviews are some what bias in some reviews the 4870x2 wins in some reviews the 295 wins.
Like this review
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article/2009/01/08/bfgtech_geforce_gtx_295/9
Edited by aklass on Aug 8, 2009 at 01:59 AM

im finished arguing with you about this. move on to something else. like "Configuring your computer to run best with CMT SPV2" instead of trying to bash my graphics card.

A computer consists of more than a graphic card, sure it's one of the bottlenecks that needs widening, but it's much more than that.

ram, hard drive speed, bridge speed, cpu speed, - to name a few. all of them have impact on your system, and instead of biassing on which card is bluntly the best, you should consider spreading your investments to the other bottlenecks that will hold back performance.

Surely, you can have a Geforce 9800GT OC'd, but with a 2ghz single core I surely pity the one running it. You need a balance.

That brings us back ontopic, how to make your overal perfomance faster, for in this case, Halo.

Keep defragmenting kidz.

Ehh I just thought I would take a blow at Nvidia fanboys who like to show-off "Ohh look at my new 295 its the best card anyone can buy!"
Anyways back on topic. Run disk cleanup, Download CCleaner, run CCleaner's cleanup and registry scan. Uninstall old GPU drivers, Start PC in safe mode run driver sweeper, Start computer in normal mode and install new GPU drivers.
Don't crap out on your system's PSU by buying a cheapo $30 PSU you wanna spend at least $90 on your PSU and buy from a good company such as OCZ, Corsair, PC power and cooling, Antec. to name a few. If your running Vista upgrade to 2gb for x86 and 4gb for x64. If you're running XP upgrade to 1-2GB of ram. Defrag your registry. Defrag your hard drive. If you're on socket 939 upgrade to an AMD dual core. if you're on 775 get a dual- core not Pentium D.

meh... i just want to buy the best graphics card possible WITH a hdmi port so i can connect it to my tv through it since HDMI provides better visuals

now how am i going to get the money? by selling my nintendo 64 with starfox and goldeney for 500 dolla XD
Edited by The Barron on Aug 8, 2009 at 12:50 PM

Just get a dvi to Hdmi adapter

hdmi and dvi have no quality difference because hdmi=dvi+audio in single cable.

I run max settings :o

me and my super computer...

do i detect a hint of jealousy? it reminds me about the story of the "sour grapes". but in response to the other info u said, yes that is a good suggestion and i would back it up. CCleaner is a great program and combined with the steps you put, id say thats about rite. good job :D

i run it on max settings, and my computer isn't exactly super

ati hd 4850 w/ firecross, 512mb
hdmi, direct x 10.1, shader model 4.1

it's crossfire, not firecross. Also, halo is a 8 year old game. It doesn't take a beast of a computer to run it properly.

I'm not jealous because I'm happy with my 8800gts And I'm proud that I spent my own money building my own PC.

this.


to everyone who is proud of being able to run halo at MAXIMUM SETTINGS:

Hello, how was it, to live under a rock?
Edited by BeachParty clan on Aug 9, 2009 at 11:29 AM

uh what

SPv2 ran nearly perfectly on my computer. I have lower specs than most of you and an integrated graphics card. My Laptop was also made in 2002? It has 3/4 of 1GB RAM.

My settings:

Resolution: 1280x1024
Refresh Rate: 60Hz
Framerate: 30 fps
Specular: Yes
Shadows: Yes
Decals: Yes
Particles: High
Texture Quality: High

Video Card: Nvidia GeForce 7600 GS
Processor: Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2 CPUs)

After all, worked pretty nicely. Around 25-30 fps. I was a bit amazed in one part, when enemies started to lag really much. But I assume it was because of "speed" powerup?

yea it slows everything down, i was like WTF too, but it turned out to be the powerup to do that xD

a 4670 is no different from an nvidia 8500 or 9500gt which is pretty weak. but hey if u like it, thats all that matters. u can tell those that dont like it to stick it where the sun dont shine lol. :)

Thats where you're wrong. The 4670 is similar to the HD 3850 they both have 320 SPU the only diffrence is the 4670 uses a 128 bit ddr3 bus. But the 4670 doesn't suffer from the same bugs as the 3850 so in a way its actually better. Now the 3850 is almost the same as the 9600gt which has 64 SPU and a 256-bit bus. The 8500gt has a sad 16 SPU and a 128-bit Bus. The 9500gt has 32SPU and a 128-bit Bus. Now the 9500gt is actually slower the the 8600gt. the 9600gt is about the same as the 320mb 8800gts. So in no way is the 4670 crap. the 4670 runs on a 55nm Fab and requires no Pci-e power cable. The 9600gt and 9500gt both run on the 65nm fab which means more heat and more power consumption. The 9600gt also has screen bugs. The 9600gt needs a pci-e cable. And last the 8500gt is on the 80nm fab which just runs hot my old one ran at 70c all the time. If you're on a tight budget get the 4670. If not try to get the 4770, 4830, and if you can wait the 4860.

If i recall right, the 9200 or 9500 was a cheap version for low budget, the 8500gt was actually faster.
the 9800gt was the real improvement, but whatever.

Always look for a passive cooling, this way you know it won't run too hot, and you can add a fan to the cooling block afterwards -> cheaper than buying a new fan which has to be bigger than the stock one.

also, leave your casing open, qft about airflow it's bull. actual tests has proven it.

lastly, just go for the ATI HD series, since they are CHEAP nowadays =P
seriously, i was an NVIDIA supporter untill the ATI HD cards came out with such low prices.

also, most important is that the ATI cards can be overclocked in a much greater ratio than the Nvidia cards, which makes all the difference if you're into it.
Edited by BeachParty clan on Aug 10, 2009 at 09:19 AM

Wrong the 9500gt has twice the amount of SPUs then the 8500gt so its actually faster, and its on the newer 65nm Fab process. And are you kidding me? Passive cooling runs the hottest Since theres no fan to remove the heat. You just get a giant heatsink that takes up room. And since there is no fan I heard passive cards can reach up to 90C at load and 70C on idle. Beside you cant just buy a fan and put it on you have to ghetto mod it on with zip ties or something. Save yourself the hassle and get a active card that is 2 slots and vents the hot air out the back of the case.

How am i supposed to play it with my crap intel karrde. <-----c wat i did thar?

9200 then, im not interested enough to look it up again.

Passive cooling has a bigger heatsink, and it's cheaper as a whole to strip another fan ontop of the heatsink rather than having to buy a new BIGGER fan when you bought one that is active cooled.

A Heatsink is there to remove heat, fan-less action is quite cool too if you never tried one.

also, i prefer a giant heatsink with a good fan stripped on than an even bigger fan that ASWELL takes up 2 slots AND makes MORE noise for the SAME ammount of cooling. PLUS it saves power to have a heatsink with fan than a bigger fan not relying on the heatsink, which thus has to be bigger.

On stock clock settings, it doesnt matter at all, but i'm talking when you OC them, that you can add another fan on it.
unless you say that when you overclock, you keep the same fan, which i wouldn't do. means automatically you have to look for a fan that is bigger and thus more expensive than the one your card came with stock.

Edited by BeachParty clan on Aug 10, 2009 at 01:19 PM

Yeah but you have to either zip tie the fan on or tape it on because there is no fan mount. And most people don't have enough ambient airflow in their case to properly cool the giant heat sink. When you attach fans to the heat sink you waste 3 slots. 2 for the card and giant heat sink and 1 more for the fans. Plus you have to hookup the fans to a power source either a 3pin/4pin/ or molex

mm true, you waste 3 instead of 2 slots, it's worth the money imo

and to my knowledge, all passive cooled cards have a pinned connection for eventual fans, but i might be wrong, all the ones i've had did in any case

Plus its going to be hard to find enough room for a passive card. With a regular 2 slot card it takes the pci-e slot and the slot below it. With a passive card the heatsink is actually behind the pcb so it takes the space above the pci-e slot and the pci-e slot. And once you attach a fan you lose a 3rd slot. And this is a problem since on most boards the pci-e slot is in the first or second slot and you eventually will block your northbridge.