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capn_crunch
Joined: Jun 9, 2009


Posted: Jul 11, 2009 06:59 PM    Msg. 1 of 24       
Are the 3d models there free, or do they cost money to download?


gruntfromhalo
Joined: Nov 21, 2007

actual loli


Posted: Jul 11, 2009 07:13 PM    Msg. 2 of 24       
Some of them cost money, some are free. If it clearly states it is free, then it is free. If there is a price on it, then you must pay money for it. Also, turbosquid questions should be asked at the turbosquid forums: http://www.turbosquid.com/Forum/Index.cfm


Karrde
Joined: Jul 30, 2007

Power beyond containing


Posted: Jul 11, 2009 07:46 PM    Msg. 3 of 24       
The prices for some of the models on that website are completely outrageous. I do not understand it. They have models that are upwards of $300, though a lot of them are around $5-$30. Some of them, like this one, were ripped, and still the "author" adds a price tag. Ridiculous.

http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-halo-world-model/363051


skynet
Joined: Jul 3, 2009

Welcome to the (LAG) Like a Ghost


Posted: Jul 11, 2009 09:21 PM    Msg. 4 of 24       
this is because you can't prove it was ripped because you can duplicate anything if you spend enough time on it.

Either way a lot of the high priced ones like 300 dollars are meant for gaming and completely modeled for RTS or other game engines.

I saw a city going for like 1000 lolz a model of a city xDD


Newbkilla
Joined: Mar 9, 2008

- Artist, Environment Artist, Level Designer -


Posted: Jul 11, 2009 11:18 PM    Msg. 5 of 24       
If it's ripped and they are selling it, than thats illegal. That thing he said was ripped was not, it looks horrible. That should be free, not $20.


Scott
Joined: Apr 4, 2005

No.


Posted: Jul 12, 2009 03:19 AM    Msg. 6 of 24       
Turbosquid is set up so poorly, you can download the paid models for free anyway.


skynet
Joined: Jul 3, 2009

Welcome to the (LAG) Like a Ghost


Posted: Jul 12, 2009 03:21 PM    Msg. 7 of 24       
It would still be nice if you paid for them it doesn't matter what you think they worth if people selling them you should still pay even if it lets you download them, it called taking responsibilty and being respectful and if you want it then pay for the merchandise don't steal it just because it may let you.

And there have been things that people made that aren't ripped but have looked almost identical to the original... so even ripped content can't always be noticed.


anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009


Posted: Jul 12, 2009 08:23 PM    Msg. 8 of 24       
Quote: --- Original message by: skynet
it called taking responsibilty and being respectful and if you want it then pay for the merchandise don't steal it just because it may let you.


:S Because the people selling the ripped models are being respectful aint dey? haha

And "don't steal it just because it may let you"? Well, the people selling ripped models on there are doing just that. :)

TurboSquid sucks balls.


skynet
Joined: Jul 3, 2009

Welcome to the (LAG) Like a Ghost


Posted: Jul 12, 2009 08:49 PM    Msg. 9 of 24       
Did i say it was for just the people who rip... i talking in general. Just because it ripped you technically can't prove it till you opened the model and viewed it yourself and looked at a ripped one you own... otherwise it is almost impossible to tell.

(this goes for everyone who just steals models that you should pay for)

So, because your assumption of if it is ripped or not is not really valid in anyway without having both models on you to look both them over. This means that by not buying them you are not very respectful in any way and what if the model is not ripped now you just stole from a legit guy who spent hours on a model... makes you no better than the guy who rips your tags from halo so going around telling people that ripped content on turbo squid so it okay to just steal anything off it is in no way right.

And if you got no respect for anyone who puts models up to sell I see no reason why any model you make should be respected.

Until you can 100% prove the model is ripped without stealing it (and I don't mean your opinion that its ripped) then you have to buy it or well lmao you have to buy it anyway it the right thing to do.

What your saying really is stupid though It like saying don't pay your taxes because the government stealing money from you anyway, but your still going to pay your taxes aren't you ;)
Edited by skynet on Jul 12, 2009 at 08:51 PM


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: Jul 12, 2009 09:06 PM    Msg. 10 of 24       
Quote: --- Original message by: skynet
So, because your assumption of if it is ripped or not is not really valid in anyway without having both models on you to look both them over. This means that by not buying them you are not very respectful in any way and what if the model is not ripped now you just stole from a legit guy who spent hours on a model... makes you no better than the guy who rips your tags from halo so going around telling people that ripped content on turbo squid so it okay to just steal anything off it is in no way right.


So you're saying that we should pay for a model that we don't know whether it's ripped or not. Best to stay off the site.


DarkZealot
Joined: Jan 1, 2008

Time management: 40% Xbox, 30% PC, 30% Skating


Posted: Jul 12, 2009 09:07 PM    Msg. 11 of 24       
Quote: --- Original message by: Karrde
The prices for some of the models on that website are completely outrageous. I do not understand it. They have models that are upwards of $300, though a lot of them are around $5-$30. Some of them, like this one, were ripped, and still the "author" adds a price tag. Ridiculous.

http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-halo-world-model/363051


Quote: by Red_Zealot

Oh jeez.


Karrde
Joined: Jul 30, 2007

Power beyond containing


Posted: Jul 12, 2009 09:11 PM    Msg. 12 of 24       
Quote: --- Original message by: Newbkilla
If it's ripped and they are selling it, than thats illegal. That thing he said was ripped was not, it looks horrible. That should be free, not $20.
Did you not read the description of the file? He clearly stated that he ripped it from the game and modified it.


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: Jul 12, 2009 09:14 PM    Msg. 13 of 24       
He ripped the TEXTURES. He never said anything bout the model.


skynet
Joined: Jul 3, 2009

Welcome to the (LAG) Like a Ghost


Posted: Jul 12, 2009 09:16 PM    Msg. 14 of 24       
Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927
Quote: --- Original message by: skynet
So, because your assumption of if it is ripped or not is not really valid in anyway without having both models on you to look both them over. This means that by not buying them you are not very respectful in any way and what if the model is not ripped now you just stole from a legit guy who spent hours on a model... makes you no better than the guy who rips your tags from halo so going around telling people that ripped content on turbo squid so it okay to just steal anything off it is in no way right.


So you're saying that we should pay for a model that we don't know whether it's ripped or not. Best to stay off the site.


Isn't it wise to stay away from things when you not positive it is real or a hoax ???


anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009


Posted: Jul 12, 2009 09:45 PM    Msg. 15 of 24       
http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-halo-world-model/363051

That is illegal anyway ^ He is not allowed to sell that model as the design and everything is copyrighted.

Why would you buy that anyway? That would take less than 5 minutes to make...


skynet
Joined: Jul 3, 2009

Welcome to the (LAG) Like a Ghost


Posted: Jul 13, 2009 01:06 PM    Msg. 16 of 24       
Tell me why you go buy paper clips??? when they take how long to make???

On top of that paper clips are mass produced an overpriced for how much each one is worth, so I guess we all shouldn't buy paper clips because apparently they can be made so easily. Oh lolz let not buy a bicycle because all they are is a couple of rods of metal with wheels on two sides and a chain >.><.< Or maybe we shouldn't buy scooters they are easier to make than bicycles.

Just because it takes 5 minutes to make or whatever... Eh!? I don't see how you fail to realize that he said materials where ripped from the game, that not models that the textures, he made the model himself. He also didn't just put the textures in there he used photoshop to edit them and change them, which means they are no longer the same textures that originally came out of the game they are new or rather different.

Materials = Textures (3ds max material Editor adds textures to a model)

But according to you anything easily made shouldn't be bought. That fails.

Edited by skynet on Jul 13, 2009 at 01:08 PM


Karrde
Joined: Jul 30, 2007

Power beyond containing


Posted: Jul 13, 2009 01:09 PM    Msg. 17 of 24       
Quote: --- Original message by: anonymous_2009
http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-halo-world-model/363051

That is illegal anyway ^ He is not allowed to sell that model as the design and everything is copyrighted.


skynet
Joined: Jul 3, 2009

Welcome to the (LAG) Like a Ghost


Posted: Jul 13, 2009 01:15 PM    Msg. 18 of 24       
Does no one listen when I said if the textures where changed they are no longer original thus it isn't illegal to sell using the textures because they were edited and changed for the model.

Another example would be freeware games the games you download and can play for free. Every game states that you can't sell that game in any way to make a profit, but if you put 4 or 5 games into a cd and call it a gaming collection or gaming pack then all the games are no longer under the licenses of the original makers and it is no longer illegal to sell it.

Therefore because he changed the Textures and edited them by law they are no longer under Bungie's copy write and can be used to sell.

At least in the USA that how it works....


Karrde
Joined: Jul 30, 2007

Power beyond containing


Posted: Jul 13, 2009 01:30 PM    Msg. 19 of 24       
It does not matter if he changes it or not. That's like saying if you take Blood Gulch and change it, you can sell it. It still belongs to the company that made it, whether you change it or not. It's still illegal to sell it.


skynet
Joined: Jul 3, 2009

Welcome to the (LAG) Like a Ghost


Posted: Jul 13, 2009 01:32 PM    Msg. 20 of 24       
No, it also depends on how much you change the model similar to how companies change design of cars....

changing a texture for 3d and making it work in 4d is a lot of changing which results in manipulating the texture lay out and so on... therefore it is no longer anything bungie made

Taking a sentinel model turning it into a sentinel turret and changing the name of the model... results in the possibility you can sell it.

Once again you have to figure out how much he changed the textures... which you cant really know until you have the textures.

Don't forget the texture itself is copy written yes, but what makes the texture is not.. therefore since colors arn't copy written then all that needs to be done is the design changed to a certain extent. Once again Bloodgulch you can sell a model of bloodgulch provided you change the model signifigantly enough, for instance you take down a cliff and add a whole new section to bloodgulch and then take the textures and manipulate them enough so they arn't the original and then you can sell it.
Edited by skynet on Jul 13, 2009 at 01:37 PM


Karrde
Joined: Jul 30, 2007

Power beyond containing


Posted: Jul 13, 2009 01:38 PM    Msg. 21 of 24       
If you rip it from a game, you cannot sell it legally, no matter how many times you change or modify it. Unless you make the model yourself from scratch, it is illegal to sell it. Period.


skynet
Joined: Jul 3, 2009

Welcome to the (LAG) Like a Ghost


Posted: Jul 13, 2009 01:40 PM    Msg. 22 of 24       
Possibly I talk to my lawyer on that... considering there are plenty of loopholes in copy write, anyway even if that is true for models it not true for textures as textures are copy written but not the colors so they can be changed and applied differently, therefore since he made the model of the ring himself and changed the textures makes it legal.


Scott
Joined: Apr 4, 2005

No.


Posted: Jul 13, 2009 02:20 PM    Msg. 23 of 24       
Quote: --- Original message by: Karrde
If you rip it from a game, you cannot sell it legally, no matter how many times you change or modify it. Unless you make the model yourself from scratch, it is illegal to sell it. Period.


Even then you can still run into some legal issues. IF they felt like screwing you over.

But the above statement is 99% correct.


anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009


Posted: Jul 13, 2009 06:46 PM    Msg. 24 of 24       
Quote: --- Original message by: skynet

Tell me why you go buy paper clips??? when they take how long to make???

On top of that paper clips are mass produced an overpriced for how much each one is worth, so I guess we all shouldn't buy paper clips because apparently they can be made so easily. Oh lolz let not buy a bicycle because all they are is a couple of rods of metal with wheels on two sides and a chain >.><.< Or maybe we shouldn't buy scooters they are easier to make than bicycles.

Just because it takes 5 minutes to make or whatever... Eh!? I don't see how you fail to realize that he said materials where ripped from the game, that not models that the textures, he made the model himself. He also didn't just put the textures in there he used photoshop to edit them and change them, which means they are no longer the same textures that originally came out of the game they are new or rather different.

Materials = Textures (3ds max material Editor adds textures to a model)

But according to you anything easily made shouldn't be bought. That fails.

Edited by skynet on Jul 13, 2009 at 01:08 PM


Wow, you just used some of the most stupid examples... Lmao.

Disregarding most of the crap in that post - Read carefully, you might learn something. Why should someone, pay money, for that model, which takes 5 minutes to do? And are you trying to say it is not illegal? The design and everthing to do with it is copyrighted making it illegal to sell, I would put my fixing models on there if was illegal you dumb ape. (cant thing of a decent word :P)

Because it is... just because he edited the bitmaps does not mean they are not ripped... wtf. Guloble... (I spelt it wrong, an wa?)


Edit1: ... you are the dumbest guy I have ever met...
Edited by anonymous_2009 on Jul 13, 2009 at 06:49 PM

 

 
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