ok so i opened sapien and ive been waiting 10 minutes and all i here is noise! please help!

So the scenario loaded, and you can see the game view?

Nope, just noise.
Edited by Halodude450 on Mar 12, 2009 at 01:02 AM
Edited by Halodude450 on Mar 12, 2009 at 01:02 AM

its probly all fine, i think sometimes pple have troubles with the gamewindow being hidden behind another window, just move and scale windows till you have the game window showing.
i think someone made a tut or something about how to fix sapien windows.

lol yup that was it! thanks for your help man! also, i need bloodgulch.scenario file, how do i get that? all i have is tut.scenario file, i need a good map for ai battles!

Download HEK+ and use it to rip the multiplayer maps from Halo PC.

i did that and it keeps freezing every time i open it! im downloading the new .net framework for my vista, i hope it works after that, if not idk
Edited by Halodude450 on Mar 13, 2009 at 01:40 AM

I believe you can get the scenario files from here too http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=2620
Also, try moving HEk+ folder to your desktop, mine crashes when ts not at it

ok i just tried that, and...... "you opend a non scenario tag! bad!" wtf!?!?!? sapien hates meh!

Perhaps you opened the scenaria at a wrong location...

you have to open it in the tags folder, i believe thats in;
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Halo Custom Edition\tags

then for bloodgulch it would be;
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Halo Custom Edition\tags\levels\test\bloodgulch

Then open the scenario file there, if the first time fails, try again, it will work.

there is nothing there at blood gulch only bitmaps file, shaders file, bloodgulch.sky, and multiplayer.wind i dont get it, and im sorry im bothering you guys, im a noob who wants to make maps.
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OMG sapien wants me to die! ok i just downloaded the new microsoft .net framework, and now when i even try to get on sapien it opens for 3 seconds and closes! plzzzzz help meh!
Edited by Halodude450 on Mar 13, 2009 at 03:24 AM

You don't need netframework for HEK..

i know i just needed for other resons also, anyway is there anyway i can ever open sapien again? btw i have a vista

if you are running vista then you need to tell sapien to run with only 1 core ( set affinity to 0 or 1, or run in a mode other than vista) i am on xp so i dont really know how you do that.

Nothing Wrong With My Sapien And I Have Vista And Heres A Link For HEK+ http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=2289

If your computer has duo-core then you need to set the affinity to 1.
Open your debut.txt and post it here. You have missing or corrupt tags.

i know it did work until i installed the new .net framework! and i also tryed changing the comp to windows xp and it still closed! so here are my problems so far....


i only have the tut.scenario file and i need bloodgulch and others, but when i open hek+ up i go to view and add windows or somthing and it freezes and aplications open up on the bottom of my screen. example= (like if im on internet explorer and it says the website im on like halo maps at the bottom)

now ever sence i downloaded the new .net framework my sapien will start up for 3 seconds and closes. i have some big problems and i would realy like them fixed, i has bad luck!

do what someone else said before me and go to progfiles/msoftgames/haloce and copy the last part of whats in debug.txt and paste it here. ( or read the lats part and make sense of it and fix it) :)

ok i did copy to the last part of the debug file, here it is!

03.13.09 21:44:24 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
03.13.09 21:44:24 reference function: _write_to_error_file
03.13.09 21:44:24 reference address: 401b13
03.13.09 21:44:24 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
03.13.09 21:44:24 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
03.13.09 21:44:25 Sound card doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements. Disabling hardware option.
03.13.09 21:44:25 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
03.13.09 21:44:36 file_open('tags\vehicles\vehicle.material_effects') error 0x00000002 'The system cannot find the file specified. '
03.13.09 21:44:36 couldn't open material_effects tag 'vehicle.material_effects'.
03.13.09 21:44:36 failed to load vehicle tag 'vehicles\warthog\mp_warthog'
03.13.09 21:44:36 file_open('tags\vehicles\vehicle.material_effects') error 0x00000002 'The system cannot find the file specified. '
03.13.09 21:44:36 couldn't open material_effects tag 'vehicle.material_effects'.
03.13.09 21:44:36 failed to load vehicle tag 'vehicles\ghost\ghost_mp'
03.13.09 21:44:37 file_open('tags\vehicles\vehicle.material_effects') error 0x00000002 'The system cannot find the file specified. '
03.13.09 21:44:37 couldn't open material_effects tag 'vehicle.material_effects'.
03.13.09 21:44:37 failed to load vehicle tag 'vehicles\scorpion\scorpion_mp'
03.13.09 21:44:38 file_open('tags\vehicles\vehicle.material_effects') error 0x00000002 'The system cannot find the file specified. '
03.13.09 21:44:38 couldn't open material_effects tag 'vehicle.material_effects'.
03.13.09 21:44:38 failed to load vehicle tag 'vehicles\banshee\banshee_mp'
03.13.09 21:44:39 file_open('tags\vehicles\vehicle.material_effects') error 0x00000002 'The system cannot find the file specified. '
03.13.09 21:44:39 couldn't open material_effects tag 'vehicle.material_effects'.
03.13.09 21:44:39 failed to load vehicle tag 'vehicles\c gun turret\c gun turret_mp'
03.13.09 21:44:40 file_open('tags\vehicles\vehicle.material_effects') error 0x00000002 'The system cannot find the file specified. '
03.13.09 21:44:40 couldn't open material_effects tag 'vehicle.material_effects'.
03.13.09 21:44:40 failed to load vehicle tag 'vehicles\rwarthog\rwarthog'
03.13.09 21:44:41 failed to load globals tag 'globals\globals'
03.13.09 21:44:41 couldn't load game globals (get new tags)
03.13.09 21:44:41 need to get the following tags:
03.13.09 21:44:41 vehicles\vehicle.material_effects
03.13.09 21:44:41 vehicles\vehicle.material_effects
03.13.09 21:44:41 vehicles\vehicle.material_effects
03.13.09 21:44:41 vehicles\vehicle.material_effects
03.13.09 21:44:41 vehicles\vehicle.material_effects
03.13.09 21:44:41 vehicles\vehicle.material_effects
03.13.09 21:44:41
03.13.09 21:44:41 game_load() failed.


i dont know what any of this means! plz help me

Edited by Halodude450 on Mar 14, 2009 at 02:17 AM

http://files.filefront.com/globalsglobals/;13462917;/fileinfo.html

there is a copy of golbals

it looks like yours is corrupted or something, put it in tags/globals/globals and keep a safe copy of it somewhere also.




03.13.09 21:44:41 need to get the following tags:
03.13.09 21:44:41 vehicles\vehicle.material_effects
03.13.09 21:44:41 vehicles\vehicle.material_effects
03.13.09 21:44:41 vehicles\vehicle.material_effects
03.13.09 21:44:41 vehicles\vehicle.material_effects
03.13.09 21:44:41 vehicles\vehicle.material_effects
03.13.09 21:44:41 vehicles\vehicle.material_effects

this is telling you that you are missing those files, and where they go, its best to rip them with hek+ and dont check the overwrite box.

k i downloaded globals and put them in the right spot.... nothing. and if i try hek+ it will freez EVERY time i go on it!
Edited by Halodude450 on Mar 14, 2009 at 02:34 AM

http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=2289

that version?

yup, thats the one that freezes.

you are going to need that to work if you are to use the scenarios.
get that 1 file you need for this particular scenario then it should work, but no others will.
http://files.filefront.com/vehiclematerial+effects/;13463005;/fileinfo.html
Edited by Maniac1000 on Mar 14, 2009 at 03:02 AM

and where should i put that? tags/vehicle?

yes. and i didnt notice which file it was before but i assume that file is referenced by a bunch of scenarios, if not all of them.
Edited by Maniac1000 on Mar 14, 2009 at 03:10 AM

ok i put it in my tags/vehicles folder (the one with banshee, ghost, warthog, lifepod, ect.) i opend sapien and...... it closes

post new debug entry

03.14.09 02:12:35 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
03.14.09 02:12:35 reference function: _write_to_error_file
03.14.09 02:12:35 reference address: 401b13
03.14.09 02:12:35 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
03.14.09 02:12:35 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
03.14.09 02:12:36 Sound card doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements. Disabling hardware option.
03.14.09 02:12:36 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
03.14.09 02:12:43 file_open('tags\vehicles\bghost\bghost_mp.vehicle') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
03.14.09 02:12:43 couldn't open vehicle tag 'bghost_mp.vehicle'.
03.14.09 02:12:43 file_open('tags\vehicles\brute_ghost\brute_ghost.vehicle') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
03.14.09 02:12:43 couldn't open vehicle tag 'brute_ghost.vehicle'.
03.14.09 02:12:47 failed to load globals tag 'globals\globals'
03.14.09 02:12:47 couldn't load game globals (get new tags)
03.14.09 02:12:47 need to get the following tags:
03.14.09 02:12:47 vehicles\bghost\bghost_mp.vehicle
03.14.09 02:12:47 vehicles\brute_ghost\brute_ghost.vehicle
03.14.09 02:12:47
03.14.09 02:12:47 game_load() failed.


Atleast its shorter?

see this is where hek+ comes in, i dont have the time right now to upload those tags and i think you are going to need more after those too.
I really dont know why hek+ wouldnt work, are you running it in the same way as sapien? maybe you need to do that on vista?

i do run it on vista, *sigh* im getting off for the night, hope i get this fixed by tomorrow.

Right click the icon. Then in the compatibility tab, check "Disable dedsktop composition"

Gamma, you can haz cookiez! ok my hek+ works nao, but my sapien still closes, and i extract the bloodgulch tags with hek and i go into sapien and go to lvls and test then bloodgulch and nothing is there!

In HEK+, open Bloodgulch.map. Drag EVERYTHING into the extraction cue, and click the little yellow gear on the right side. Click the large "Use Registry" button, and make sure "overwrite tags" is unchecked. Uncheck "save extracted tags list", and click Start. Wait for it to finish.

do i use bloodgulch thats in my halo pc file or halo ce version? does it matter?