why cant we change ANYthing about the engine?

last i heard they released open sauce (i may be wrong) so why cant anyone change the phisics engine to be more realistic

I know you're probably a 4channer, but please, don't say "sauce".

Sauce, is ketchup/mustard/barbeque (and if you say bbq, I will eShoot you).

/Source/, is the word you're looking for.

But the Halo physics are limited. If there was an "open source", that would mean someone with advanced knowledge of game development would have to edit the game, and they could put more of their time and effort into something more worthwhile; such as, oh, I don't know, their own game, maybe? If you were to change the physics of the game, you'd have to restructure the /entire/ game, because it's all seamlessly bound together...

Halo was designed for PC in 2003. Though we have substantially increased how good PC's can be over these past 6 years, the game is still a 2003 game, and aside from the occasional update, there won't be a drastic improvement on the physics engine. It was designed to run on very low-quality PC's and be able to run on a 56k modem. If you were to increase the physics even a little bit, it wouldn't be what it was intended anymore.

All you can do is either get Halo 2 for Vista, or deal with the physics as they are, because that's how they'll always be.
Edited by MF Boom on Jan 30, 2009 at 09:19 AM

Open Sauce is the name of the program.

Halo was never designed to have realistic physics, it doesn't"suck"

I concur

Halo's physics were probably advanced when it was made... But seriously.. overall halo is a decent game.. Why would you want to change it? Its a classic

seriously, wtf? all the posts i've read so far have your spam in it.

so open source has not been released?

It has.

If you can use C++ and have a decent understanding of the engine, then you can make new tagsets in Guerilla. As far as I'm concerned though, the physics and AI and graphics are all hardcoded into the engine. However, I may be wrong about the physics though.

errr... tagsets? lol

Meaning, you can add different Filetypes, such as Gmod Models and things :O

Sorry, Tag Groups. My bad.lol.

Okay say I wanted Cortana to say Cheez-it in the beginning cutscene

Could I do that

Or would I have to make my own Speech and integrate it in with a new Campaign

Well Ill get right on that

litterally that would be hilarious

You don't need Open Sauce to make Cortana say "Cheez-It". But you do need to sound like her, otherwise it would sound like you using a crappy microphone.

You're not wrong.

Physics, structuring, graphics, intelligence, and scripting are all part of the game's code and design. In order to actually /change/ any of it, you would have to pretty much get the actual source/binary of the game, crack it open, and use not only C++, but perhaps C#, Visual Basic and XL... You could get by with just C++ probably, but it would make it exceptionally easier knowing more programming languages.

But again, like I've said; It's not worth recompiling the game into a new one just for better "physics". You could just as easily create your own game with that same knowledge, or mod another game with more modern physics.

The game was designed, again, for low-quality PC's and 56K modems. It's perfect how it is now, with what all people can already do with it. I wouldn't change it at all.





Alright. Makes sense... Just, if you've ever been to 4chan, "sauce" is the most common replacement word for "source". Just as "moar" for "more". Ridiculously irritating.





If you're going to be a /b/-tard, say it right. "Hai guize". Otherwise, gtfo and gb2/b/, newfag.

[Dennis, remove whatever words from this last part you want; it's not meant to be offensive though, it's just a 4chan thing. But I have no issue with removing it if it's too obscene/vulgar for the forums.]
Edited by MF Boom on Jan 31, 2009 at 12:59 AM

I didn't think any of it was wrong at all, personally. Not even in the back of my head.

But I said if /Dennis/ feels it's appropriate, he can remove it.

honestly, i dont see a difference.... that just looks like bloodgulch on teh directx 6 card on the other computer i play on...

There is a difference, you just have to look harder

Here's the deal. For it's time Halo's physics and the game itself was beyond good, one of the best games ever.

...... i think you took off for a while and missed the release of open sauce. thats actually what the thing is called. hes not saying sauce like that 4chan addiction
open sauce is a .dll that lets you program new things onto the game engine

Prepare to be surprised.

I call dibs on the steak.

Sory to burst your buble but Bungie microsoft and gearbox doesnt even claim halo pc anyomore. Trust me I went to everyone who made halo pc and they told me to og to the next guy and it goes on and on. So halo CE will stay the same FOREVER!

Are you joking? Microsoft would NEVER let go of Halo PC. Get us phone records of your "chat" with Microsoft. But yes, it will stay the same. However, that doesn't stop other people from trying to improve the engine.

lol microsoft still sells halo pc and they praticly stoped seeling h2 vista cause its not a seller but bungie does not hold anything to it anymore. Whats the point of ragdolls why not just go play gmod?

wow you all have no respect, he simply asked a question and this topic goes goes down hill.

I hope Dennis has pity on you all and doesn't ban you for "trolling" or "flamming" or "bashing newbies"

I know that now. I did miss the release of that apparently, and Masters corrected me.

But thanks again for clearing that up, I'll have to look into that. Just to see how it works and such.