hey i am wonder would any one be kind enough to create me a map. does not have to be custom made but a common map like bloodgulch but with fog. and with all characters. i dont need a whole bunch of people to help me. but if they want they can talk to who ever is making it for me if more than to people making it for me then you guys can create a custom map. post for more info or whatever you want. reason for this post is my sapien and hek plus is messed up. if anything changes i will let you know but it will be a month before i can fix it. i will give full credit to who ever built this if i put it on internet.

Give me the list of characters. And I refuse to use Blood Gulch. Just out of curiosity, why do you want this?

if you can remember my sapien is not work. but i am getting it fix by a gearbox person. (technition) he said that he will give me a complete diagnosis in about a month and i cant wait since i am running a vista. he shall give me the tags and give me what problem is so i can fix it but it is to long. but a least i get to play my sapien agian or use it for that matter.

anyway does not have to be bloodgulch could be what ever you want. it could even be a custom map. any way here are the characters.
covienant.
specops- elites-grunts-
covienant- hunters-jackels-elites
flood
flood: elite flood-human-and pop one, pregnant ones.
sentinals
sentinals: the majors with the shield.
HUMANS
humans: well you could put them all.

if you refuse to put some of them on let me know which ones. but its ok.

Your Sapien was not broken. It merely was using bad globals. You just didn't want to rip out fresh tags. And I think I could manage this, but "pregnant" flood? By the way, what do you want this for? And I'll make it on beavercreek

well the hek + was having errors. i should delete hek+ and download it agian to see if it work this time.

and that pregnant flood. well i wanted it just to put. well just to come and think of it i take that off. i dont want battle being interferred by a suicide flood. so take him or it off.


ok can you do me a favor. once you get the chance. can you get the globals and this item:
glass breakable masked large.bitmap. plz. cause hek is messing up it wont extract any ce map. oh yeah, for globals get the one that i need. it is in the other thread in tool and sapien help. my more recent post in there.

Edited by bg1 on Jan 24, 2009 at 02:42 AM

was HEK + crashing when you clicked "file?"
it always does this, you just have to press the open icon instead of file, open.

I'll make it. But there will be surprises >:) I'll get it done by 12 pm here PST
I'm done.
Download here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?nzhzydmyyio
Beware of the suprises.


Edited by Gamma927 on Jan 24, 2009 at 12:21 PM

If it crashes, right click the icon, click properties, then under the compatibility tab, check "Disable desktop composition"

well if you want you can, destoyer.

gamma. give me some info on the map. what stuff did you do.

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?nzhzydmyyio

If you read my earlier post. Personally, I think of it as the most fun machinima map of all time

Edited by Gamma927 on Jan 24, 2009 at 06:45 PM

No. Because the nukes are epic.

thank you gamma.i apreaciate what you did for me. i would have done it myself but sapien is not working i tried to do that thing that you said. and it did not work. still gives the error. what now.

ok the hek+ is working let me see if i can fix the problem.
Edited by bg1 on Jan 25, 2009 at 03:42 AM

no it did not fix the problem on sapien. it will extract now. but does not fix the problem. i tried reextracting bloodgulch, a10, and a random map. still no help. still gives me the same sapien issue. still cant specify the mutiplayer globals. wierd.
ohh the map is cool.i could have not have done it any better. well of course. i only got to use sapien for about 3 days before it messed up.
Edited by bg1 on Jan 25, 2009 at 04:00 AM

your globals are messed up? just extract it from one of the maps in the HALO folder, not halo Custom Edition Edition, but regular halo. Open HEK+ then go to C:\program files\microsoft games\halo\maps and rip the globals from the bluudgulch in there it sounds like your globals are corrupted. Doing this usually helps me when my globals are corrupted :)

ok unevenelefant5 i will try that.
Gamma927, the map yesturday i play for about a sec cause i got sleepy. but now how do you make every body move. like when i play the only people that are moving and shooting are, human and the flood. why dont the sentinals, covenant, and jackals. well same thing. why dont they move. they get there buts kick by the moving humans and flood. map wierd move to an area and boom off you go. i like that purple gun. i forgot what the name is. one more thing what game type should you play in. slayer? ctf?

Err, its not meant to be an AI map. It's meant to be a machinima map. I just threw in a few booby traps, like if you wanted to bump possess the flood, they would come alive. Same with the marines. But oh well, if you like AI like that, then download AI Battlecreek, which was my first map.

ohh now i see so that is why. might be hard for me to bump poccess a marine if i get close or come from the wrong direction they will kiiillll me to death. and i like the odst idea. nice. oh, one more Q. where would your ai battlecreek be at?

Halomaps.

ok unevenelifant. i extracted the globals and still no good. still gives me the errors in sapien.

Give your entire debug. Not just the last paragraph. The entire thing.

ok. here it is.
01.21.09 22:46:20 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
01.21.09 22:46:20 reference function: _write_to_error_file
01.21.09 22:46:20 reference address: 401b13
01.21.09 22:46:20 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
01.21.09 22:46:20 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
01.21.09 22:46:24 Sound card doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements. Disabling hardware option.
01.21.09 22:46:25 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
01.21.09 22:46:40 the meter definition ui\hud\cyborg shield does not specify a stencil bitmap group.
01.21.09 22:46:40 the meter definition ui\hud\cyborg body does not specify a stencil bitmap group.
01.21.09 22:46:41 game globals didn't specify multiplayer information
01.21.09 22:47:00 main_new_map() failed.

this is the entire one.

this is a previous one.
01.19.09 21:12:20 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
01.19.09 21:12:20 reference function: _write_to_error_file
01.19.09 21:12:20 reference address: 401b13
01.19.09 21:12:20 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
01.19.09 21:12:20 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
01.19.09 21:12:21 Sound card doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements. Disabling hardware option.
01.19.09 21:12:22 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
01.19.09 21:12:28 file_read('tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\warthog tires.bitmap') error 0x00000026 'Reached the end of the file. '
01.19.09 21:12:28 couldn't read #108 bytes from offset #64 in local tag 'tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\warthog tires.bitmap'
01.19.09 21:12:28 couldn't read elements for bitmap block
01.19.09 21:12:28 failed to load bitmap tag 'vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\warthog tires'
01.19.09 21:12:28 failed to load shader_model tag 'vehicles\warthog\shaders\warthog tires'
01.19.09 21:12:28 file_read('tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\warthog.bitmap') error 0x00000026 'Reached the end of the file. '
01.19.09 21:12:28 couldn't read #108 bytes from offset #64 in local tag 'tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\warthog.bitmap'
01.19.09 21:12:28 couldn't read elements for bitmap block
01.19.09 21:12:28 failed to load bitmap tag 'vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\warthog'
01.19.09 21:12:28 failed to load shader_model tag 'vehicles\warthog\shaders\warthog hull'
01.19.09 21:12:28 file_read('tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\warthog.bitmap') error 0x00000026 'Reached the end of the file. '
01.19.09 21:12:28 couldn't read #108 bytes from offset #64 in local tag 'tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\warthog.bitmap'
01.19.09 21:12:28 couldn't read elements for bitmap block
01.19.09 21:12:28 failed to load bitmap tag 'vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\warthog'
01.19.09 21:12:28 failed to load shader_transparent_chicago tag 'vehicles\warthog\shaders\warthog lights'
01.19.09 21:12:28 failed to load gbxmodel tag 'vehicles\warthog\warthog'
01.19.09 21:12:28 file_read('tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\headlights gel warthog.bitmap') error 0x00000026 'Reached the end of the file. '
01.19.09 21:12:28 couldn't read #108 bytes from offset #64 in local tag 'tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\headlights gel warthog.bitmap'
01.19.09 21:12:28 couldn't read elements for bitmap block
01.19.09 21:12:28 failed to load bitmap tag 'vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\headlights gel warthog'
01.19.09 21:12:28 failed to load light tag 'vehicles\warthog\headlights light'
01.19.09 21:12:28 file_read('tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\headlight flares.bitmap') error 0x00000026 'Reached the end of the file. '
01.19.09 21:12:28 couldn't read #108 bytes from offset #64 in local tag 'tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\headlight flares.bitmap'
01.19.09 21:12:28 couldn't read elements for bitmap block
01.19.09 21:12:28 failed to load bitmap tag 'vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\headlight flares'
01.19.09 21:12:28 failed to load lens_flare tag 'vehicles\warthog\tailights'
01.19.09 21:12:28 failed to load light tag 'vehicles\warthog\taillights'
01.19.09 21:12:28 file_read('tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\antenna.bitmap') error 0x00000026 'Reached the end of the file. '
01.19.09 21:12:28 couldn't read #108 bytes from offset #64 in local tag 'tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\antenna.bitmap'
01.19.09 21:12:28 couldn't read elements for bitmap block
01.19.09 21:12:28 failed to load bitmap tag 'vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\antenna'
01.19.09 21:12:28 failed to load antenna tag 'vehicles\warthog\warthog antenna'
01.19.09 21:12:28 failed to load vehicle tag 'vehicles\warthog\mp_warthog'
01.19.09 21:12:28 file_read('tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\antenna.bitmap') error 0x00000026 'Reached the end of the file. '
01.19.09 21:12:28 couldn't read #108 bytes from offset #64 in local tag 'tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\antenna.bitmap'
01.19.09 21:12:28 couldn't read elements for bitmap block
01.19.09 21:12:28 failed to load bitmap tag 'vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\antenna'
01.19.09 21:12:28 failed to load antenna tag 'vehicles\scorpion\scorpion short antenna'
01.19.09 21:12:28 file_read('tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\antenna.bitmap') error 0x00000026 'Reached the end of the file. '
01.19.09 21:12:28 couldn't read #108 bytes from offset #64 in local tag 'tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\antenna.bitmap'
01.19.09 21:12:28 couldn't read elements for bitmap block
01.19.09 21:12:28 failed to load bitmap tag 'vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\antenna'
01.19.09 21:12:28 failed to load antenna tag 'vehicles\scorpion\scorpion medium antenna'
01.19.09 21:12:28 failed to load vehicle tag 'vehicles\scorpion\scorpion_mp'
01.19.09 21:12:29 file_read('tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\warthog.bitmap') error 0x00000026 'Reached the end of the file. '
01.19.09 21:12:29 couldn't read #108 bytes from offset #64 in local tag 'tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\warthog.bitmap'
01.19.09 21:12:29 couldn't read elements for bitmap block
01.19.09 21:12:29 failed to load bitmap tag 'vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\warthog'
01.19.09 21:12:29 failed to load shader_transparent_chicago tag 'vehicles\warthog\shaders\warthog lights'
01.19.09 21:12:29 failed to load gbxmodel tag 'vehicles\rwarthog\rwarthog'
01.19.09 21:12:29 file_read('tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\headlights gel warthog.bitmap') error 0x00000026 'Reached the end of the file. '
01.19.09 21:12:29 couldn't read #108 bytes from offset #64 in local tag 'tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\headlights gel warthog.bitmap'
01.19.09 21:12:29 couldn't read elements for bitmap block
01.19.09 21:12:29 failed to load bitmap tag 'vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\headlights gel warthog'
01.19.09 21:12:29 failed to load light tag 'vehicles\warthog\headlights light'
01.19.09 21:12:29 file_read('tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\headlight flares.bitmap') error 0x00000026 'Reached the end of the file. '
01.19.09 21:12:29 couldn't read #108 bytes from offset #64 in local tag 'tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\headlight flares.bitmap'
01.19.09 21:12:29 couldn't read elements for bitmap block
01.19.09 21:12:29 failed to load bitmap tag 'vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\headlight flares'
01.19.09 21:12:29 failed to load lens_flare tag 'vehicles\warthog\tailights'
01.19.09 21:12:29 failed to load light tag 'vehicles\warthog\taillights'
01.19.09 21:12:29 file_read('tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\antenna.bitmap') error 0x00000026 'Reached the end of the file. '
01.19.09 21:12:29 couldn't read #108 bytes from offset #64 in local tag 'tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\antenna.bitmap'
01.19.09 21:12:29 couldn't read elements for bitmap block
01.19.09 21:12:29 failed to load bitmap tag 'vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\antenna'
01.19.09 21:12:30 failed to load antenna tag 'vehicles\warthog\warthog antenna'
01.19.09 21:12:30 failed to load vehicle tag 'vehicles\rwarthog\rwarthog'
01.19.09 21:12:31 failed to load globals tag 'globals\globals'
01.19.09 21:12:31 couldn't load game globals (get new tags)
01.19.09 21:12:31 need to get the following tags:
01.19.09 21:12:31
01.19.09 21:12:31 game_load() failed.

i try to create the map and tool gives me this but comes in a sapien form of the debug.

Get these files:

tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\warthog.bitmap
tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\headlights gel warthog.bitmap
tags\vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\antenna.bitmap

Because these files are missing, it can't open the globals. So get them.

ok i shall do that right now.

what level shall i get them at. and what game. pc or ce?
Edited by bg1 on Jan 25, 2009 at 08:33 PM

PC. Rip them from Blood Gulch.

ok i tried another map but it stayed open for a little while then shut down. i will do that.

no did not work i have an earlier tool entry look at it.
01.19.09 21:29:41 tool pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
01.19.09 21:29:41 reference function: _write_to_error_file
01.19.09 21:29:41 reference address: 42ca20
01.19.09 21:29:41 Couldn't read map file './toolbeta.map'
01.19.09 21:29:44 file_open('tags\ui\ui_tags_loaded_solo_scenario_type.tag_collection') error 0x00000002 'The system cannot find the file specified. '
01.19.09 21:29:44 couldn't open tag_collection tag 'ui_tags_loaded_solo_scenario_type.tag_collection'.
01.19.09 21:29:44 failed to load ui tags tied to solo scenarios
01.19.09 21:29:46 WARNING: 27 clusters in structure_bsp levels\test\tutorial\tutorial have no background sound or sound environment.

i will bring more info on this subject. cause there might be more. this is just to fix the tutorial problem.
Edited by bg1 on Jan 25, 2009 at 08:48 PM

He has corrupted bitmaps.
get a fresh set of tags, the use the newest version of hek + and rip from bloodgulch everything, overwrite tags.

ok i did that. but i dont think that will work but i did not try the overwrite. and i do have the new version.

Overwrite.

OK
1) delete tags folder.
2) uninstall HEK
3) re-install HEK
4) Open HEK +
5) Open bloodgulch.map in HEK+
6) select all folders and extract to your tags folder, make sure overwrite tags is selected.
7) ???
8) PROFIT

hmm. the first post did not work so i will try the second one. i got hopes on this one. it might work.

what mean is the post of cls or csl grunt did not work thats what i meant


Edited by bg1 on Jan 25, 2009 at 11:47 PM
- = \ means - equals the \ get it.
failed to load tags items:
actor: character\cyborg\cyborg
weapons: weapons-pistol-pistol
items_collection: item collections-wepons\pistol
tag reference name too large <this tag is corrupted>
actor: character\cyborg\cyborg
weapons: weapons-pistol-pistol
items_collection: item collections-wepons\pistol
tag reference name too large <this tag is corrupted>
actor: character\cyborg\cyborg
weapons: weapons-pistol-pistol
items_collection: item collections-wepons\pistol
tag reference name too large <this tag is corrupted>
actor: character\cyborg\cyborg
weapons: weapons-pistol-pistol
items_collection: item collections-wepons\pistol
tag reference name too large <this tag is corrupted>
actor: character\cyborg\cyborg
weapons: weapons-pistol-pistol
items_collection: item collections-wepons\pistol
tag reference name too large <this tag is corrupted>
actor: character\cyborg\cyborg
weapons: weapons-pistol-pistol
items_collection: item collections-weapons\pistol
tag reference name too large <this tag is corrupted>
actor: character\cyborg\cyborg
weapons: weapons-pistol-pistol
items_collection: item collections-weapons\pistol
tag reference name too large <this tag is corrupted>
actor: character\cyborg\cyborg
weapons: weapons-pistol-pistol
items_collection: item collections-weapons\pistol
failed to load scenario tag 'levels\test\turoial\tutorial
need to get the following tags:

failed to load scenario.

pack file bitmaps hits: 0 for 0.00m
pack file bitmaps adds/misses: 0 for 0.00m
pack file sounds hits: 0 for 0.00m
pack file sounds adds/misses: 0 for 0.00m
pack file loc hits: 0 for 0.00m
pack file loc adds/misses: 0 for 0.00m

this is the tool debug.

ps. still installing hek be a while for it to open ohh wait. it did now i shall install it into my system.
Edited by bg1 on Jan 25, 2009 at 11:59 PM


ok it is done. what map. i know bloodgulch but where. pc, ce? plz be more specific.
Edited by bg1 on Jan 26, 2009 at 12:13 AM

Always PC. Never CE.

ohh ok. i got it. ;)

nope did not work. well that was before you told me about the pc never ce. i did ce. so i will delete the tags folder agian and uninstall hek and reinstall hek and open hek+, then extract the entire folder of bloodgulch. i will see if it works.
Edited by bg1 on Jan 26, 2009 at 12:46 AM

gamma927, it did not work. it closes down faster now. what happened. i will bring a debug.
Edited by bg1 on Jan 26, 2009 at 01:43 AM

ohh. wait. i know. the reason is that the pc one is modified. i have a clean one ohh that is why. ok i shall extract my clean one.
Edited by bg1 on Jan 26, 2009 at 01:46 AM

ahh i think. ahh **** i accedently deleted the extra bloodgulch map. can you offer me a bloodgulch. i have one that i think is blank but there are a lot stuff missing or corrupted. on that bloodgulch for some reason. can you offer a bloodgulch map for pc. then i will extract it and see if it works now.
Edited by bg1 on Jan 26, 2009 at 01:54 AM

you must mess up everything...

delete tags folder. reinstall HEK. go sapien and open tutorial.

Here's a tip. DON'T DO BLOODGULCH. If it's modified, then use another map (unmodified)

ohh ok. hmm. i shall try... death island.

delete tags folder. reinstall hek. ok

doing some work. wont take long.
Edited by bg1 on Jan 27, 2009 at 12:15 AM

hey it did not work. but the wierd thing is it had bloodgulch in the hek when i reinstalled it. is it suppose to be there?
Edited by bg1 on Jan 27, 2009 at 12:28 AM

ok i rip death island. it fix the globals problem now. how do i fix these problems.

01.21.09 22:46:40 the meter definition ui\hud\cyborg shield does not specify a stencil bitmap group.
01.21.09 22:46:40 the meter definition ui\hud\cyborg body does not specify a stencil bitmap group.

i think i am almost done then i can use sapien agian. i am getting excited. :D
Edited by bg1 on Jan 27, 2009 at 01:40 AM