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Supersniper you are not a mod. Sali and I were having a discussion. I didn't see any swears or hate words (gaurdian aside). You don't need to ask dennis to lock a thread. If he thinks its lock-worthy he will lock it. What would even make you think you need to ask?

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You possess the ability to moderate a chair in an empty room. The only person I will treat as a moderator is the amazing Dennis. Thanks in advance.

If you want to flam me or talk to me please post instead of PMing me, so I can publicly humiliate you with ease.


Oh, snap. Mocked.

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All I am saying is CMT has a few problems.

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All I am saying is CMT has a few problems that, when fixed, will earn my respect (Wouldn't it be nice if I stopped complaining?). I am not here to simply anger all of you, like I seem to be doing. I wish to see something positive come out of this mess of a community.

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List them.

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I wish to see something positive come out of this mess of a community.

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ask not what the community can do for you, but what can you do for the community

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Dsal... I'm tired of your negativity. Why not smile for once...
Every post you post is either complaining or putting someone down. I have never seen you post something positave. Tell me how can you expect something good to come out of the community if you yourself cannot give something good to the community

Treat others the way you want to be treated...
To me that saying suits you.

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Tell me how can you expect something good to come out of the community if you yourself cannot give something good to the community

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What I can do for the community is about to happen. I am on the verge of releasing some tutorials and announcing map

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play with him on xbl. He really is quite happy

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he did. in his whole big post that you read half of.

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According to what I have heard from members of CMT, here are some qualities that they have (This is relevant to the thread; keep reading to see how.):

who cares exactly what your subjective opinion is? I can spot a "holier than thou" attitude a mile away buddy, and your wearing one.

1. Disregard to any opposition.Automatically assuming that they are right. Did you know that some people are actually smarter than CMT members? No duh Sherlock, you earned yourself a gold medal in clueless. I see Captain Obvious has some competition.Shocking, right? Not really. Stop acting like you know best. It is very clear to me that MANY of CMT's choices were the exact opposite of what they should have been. Care to elaborate rather than flinging garbage out into the air? I can't say exactly how you people decide on some of the things you do, but it has to change. Oh I see, so you make an accusation but can't back it up. Nice one. This leads to the next point. You had one?

2. Little effort towards thinking things out. Ironic, I could say the say the same for someone who time and time again stuffed up the shaders in a little map called "Seclusion" You say you have gotten arid of things you made a while ago, that you would otherwise release to the anxious community? This is stupidity at it's best. Gee let's make something amazing that "everybody" wants and delete it because we don't feel like keeping it anymore. Seriously. I declare that an epic failure. Ok, I'm missing the point you promised earlier. We have released stuff. Get off our backs. It's our content and we can do with it as we wish. Is halomaps grounded on communism or something?.Not to mention map protection. You obviously put effort into figuring out how to prevent noob maps. Yet, you failed at figuring out how to entice excellent mods of things that you put minimal effort into. Hmm I guess it seemed logical for a team like us to be working on a mod, but then release all the content for it before we even finished, sort of undermining the very point of doing the mod in the first place. What are we, goons for hire to you people? Is our very existence based on us sitting at our computers in our own personal life to just make content for you your people, who constantly bash us anyway?. Let's make something amazing but not finish it and release it because... we can? What the? A sad definition of respect for your own content. I think your just called the kettle black AND neon purple, you massive hypocrite. You say you want us to release content but then you dish flames at us for releasing the stuff? I want some of what your smoking.I have seen countless things that you have made that were on the verge of being remarkable, yet fell just short enough to be labeled average. Everything Ive ever seen you make, has been useless garbage. Who are you to say such things? I even recall you ripping some of our textures and passing them off as your own. Gee, guess you hate us that much huh. An excellent example is your mind boggling urge to not fix small details that could use slight adjusting, thus turning up the standard of quality for your content. (Thus turning into much respect. (Especially from me.)) A , we don't want your respect, because as clearly obvious by reading this post, you have no clue what planet your on, B, We don't fix things totally to the extreme because this is a large scale mod, we have to get everything done first before we refine it. Get off our backs. Do I troll your sub par content saying "hurr it's got some flaws, your a failure"? No? Well maybe I should.This also leads to another point. You seem to be full of these points you keep mentioning, but all I have seen so far is hypocritical banter.

3. Denial of suggestions. I have given LISTS of things that could use improvement "aww, me me me me me awwwww no one listens to meeeeeeeee" , maybe because of posts like THIS VERY ONEyet all you could say was It wasn't finished; you are only trying to make me look like a nub; you didn't read the fine print, therefor you must be stupid; etc. I was once talking with Dane about something he could have done to make my job on Seclusion a little more efficient, but all he said was buzz off. (Profanity replaced.) Outright lie. I know you didn't think I'd post here, and I know you didn't think I'd see this post, but I did. I remember your job was doing shaders and ingaming stuff. I do textures. I did all I could do. It was you and Duce who stuffed it up. It's like he knew what he was doing so well that he couldn't bare comprehend that I had a better idea. Or maybe, I've done what I've been doing for a long time, and when I see it get stuffed up for the first time, it's NOT me who's doing the buggering up, it's you. I just made you look like YOU didn't know what you were doing, because your so dam used to having people around who tell you that everything you make is awesome. You clearly don't understand the term community. You clearly don't understand the term "communism" It's like everything revolves around you. Hahahahahhahahaahahhaha, oh man, now the kettle is indigo with orange spots on it. You act like you can handle everything on your own. I have witnessed it myself, YOU CAN'T. Haha, that's what you seem to think, but as I recall, it was you who botched up the in gaming of everything. I'm a texture artist. I paint textures. Your job was to make them work, and you couldn't. Don't blame your failings on me. This thread, along with many others you have made, proves it. Oh hey, another trail to another point. I see no trail, I see breadcrumbs and blood stains.

4. Lack of care/etc toward the community.

Hahahahha. The most clueless thing you've said thus far. I'm not going to even bother with the rest of that one. This shouldn't even be debated. We put out our own personal lives, we spend hours upon hours of your day making content, for an old unsupported game. You know why?

FOR THE COMMUNITY AND OUR FRIENDS. I could leave the community at any point and go full blown into the unreal 3 mod I'm working on, but I don't. Why? Same reason the rest of us don't. Because we care.

I even worked on Seclusion with Il Duce and you, I went against every moral fiber of my being, to work on something that I knew was going to be ripped. But I thought I owed something to the community, that I had to give them something. But how do I get re payed for venturing out of cmt and working with other people? I get stabbed in the back. Nice one. Any chance you had of growing creatively is out the window buddy.

So why don't we release the hard worked on content we've been pouring our souls into?

Because from DAY 1 this forum, whined and nagged about wanting the content, and now your all just spurt along on the same bandwagon, forgetting what your even arguing about anymore. You just want a man to hate. Everyone needs someone to hate. So we thought, bugger em, they're going to be jerks to us? Lets forget about those people. We do however help out people who are nice, polite and are deserving. It's just a coincidence that 90 percent of the people at halomaps are needy prepubescents, who feel they claim ownership of everything. The rest of the community are great.

5. Lacking experience in sharing knowledge. Sure you have made some tutorials when you first started out, but where are the tutorials nowadays?

Ok, Champion post. We are making a FULL CONVERSION MOD. We have LIVES. We do not have the time, on top of the mod and our personal lives, to make tutorials for you ungrateful backstabbers.

I never ever EVER have used a tutorial for texturing. Why should anyone else need em? If someone is dedicated enough to a purpose, they'll figure it out, like I and many other people have. If they're a quitter, they're going to whine and ask for tutorials, because they lack the initiative to pursue a goal by themselves.


Oh, and I actually did make tutorials, tutorials that I have seen many people tryng. I've also noticed that alot more people have been trying to make their own textures too. Hey look guys, I contributed!

So what have you contributed, Salimander, as long as we're talking about contribution and shelf life here, what have you committed to and achieved that has attributed to the gain of the people?

6. Map protection.

BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW quit flogging that horse. That's not the real issue and you know it.

Any further points (such as your lack of spelling) would be un-needed bickering about small details I dislike. I will not get into them for my own sake, not yours. But I do see the potential for a successful team; which is why I am posting this. No, your posting this because your an egocentric lark who thinks he is some sort of figurehead in the community, that he matters. You don't. You had some promise, but no, this post has undoubtedly sealed your fate as annoying useless poster for all time.

CMT does contain a few nice qualities, but I honestly can't speak of them after typing up what you just read. So a post where you point out flaws.

Boyo, if I was to sit here and post a topic about your flaws, I'd be here typing until world peace was achieved.

Your a negative, condescending, ungrateful whining insignificant blotter of text on a page.

Oh, and if anybody likes to laugh at my habit of making lists: I have to because I have so many points, not making a list would only confuse me, possibly in-addition to you.

Again. I followed the trail of breadcrumbs and blood stains and all I found was a pitiful sulking little rodent hiding under a rock, a rock called "hypocrisy"

-I apologize to Dane for making him look bad
Sorry, but you didn't make anything happen. Like I care what you say about me. I guess you really are that egotistical that you think people actually care what you say. I however, have to correct false statements, like this whole post. There's a difference between caring and correcting.

Quote: You say you want the best for the community, yet you don't give us what we all want. How does that make sense?

Quote: I have also noted that most of the people there know things that they won't reveal to the community.

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higuy did you honestly read danes entire post or did you just see a CMT name and choose a side? just stay out of it.

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According to what I have heard from members of CMT, here are some qualities that they have (This is relevant to the thread; keep reading to see how.):

1. Disregard to any opposition. Automatically assuming that they are right. Did you know that some people are actually smarter than CMT members? Shocking, right? Not really. Stop acting like you know best. It is very clear to me that MANY of CMT's choices were the exact opposite of what they should have been. I can't say exactly how you people decide on some of the things you do, but it has to change. This leads to the next point.

2. Little effort towards thinking things out. You say you have gotten arid of things you made a while ago, that you would otherwise release to the anxious community? This is stupidity at it's best. Gee let's make something amazing that "everybody" wants and delete it because we don't feel like keeping it anymore. Seriously. I declare that an epic failure. Not to mention map protection. You obviously put effort into figuring out how to prevent noob maps. Yet, you failed at figuring out how to entice excellent mods of things that you put minimal effort into. Let's make something amazing but not finish it and release it because... we can? A sad definition of respect for your own content. I have seen countless things that you have made that were on the verge of being remarkable, yet fell just short enough to be labeled average. An excellent example is your mind boggling urge to not fix small details that could use slight adjusting, thus turning up the standard of quality for your content. (Thus turning into much respect. (Especially from me.)) This also leads to another point.

3. Denial of suggestions. I have given LISTS of things that could use improvement yet all you could say was It wasn't finished; you are only trying to make me look like a nub; you didn't read the fine print, therefor you must be stupid; etc. I was once talking with Dane about something he could have done to make my job on Seclusion a little more efficient, but all he said was buzz off. (Profanity replaced.) It's like he knew what he was doing so well that he couldn't bare comprehend that I had a better idea. You clearly don't understand the term community. It's like everything revolves around you. You act like you can handle everything on your own. I have witnessed it myself, YOU CAN'T. This thread, along with many others you have made, proves it. Oh hey, another trail to another point.

4. Lack of care/etc toward the community. (This also adds to #2.) You say you want the best for the community, yet you don't give us what we all want. How does that make sense? I have been made aware of that CMT enjoys lounging at Modacity.net. I've seen it there. I've noted their irritating mentality. It must rub off onto each other. I have also noted that most of the people there know things that they won't reveal to the community. What the heck is the point of living if you won't tell other people exclusive things that you know that would otherwise be wasted on pride? Anger is all I can feel toward this. As quoted by Donut:

Clearly the community has spoken. Public knowledge beats private knowledge's butt. Wow, another link to my next point.

5. Lacking experience in sharing knowledge. Sure you have made some tutorials when you first started out, but where are the tutorials nowadays? It's perfectly clear to me that you know things that most of the community doesn't. Why won't you tell us these things? I have been waiting a long time for somebody to tell me how CMT got their AR to change it's ammo counter's color. If I know this concept, will your pride go down in the dumps? No. Why? You came up with it first. Everybody knows you did. Why would you be so afraid to have somebody misinterpret something you made as not yours? This is childish. WOAH, I remember you saying that people misinterpreting content as not yours, when it really was, was another failed reason to prevent open sourcing. Damn, looks like YET ANOTHER reason why map protection can go die in a hole. Next point is eminent.

6. Map protection. I don't feel like getting into detail here, because I have already made my points and all you could do was make excuses toward them. Honestly, the only reason why map protection could ever be good is to evade noobs from turning your creations into retarded emo babies. This game has children who play it, live with the fact that they will attempt to make you look as bad as possible. A noob recently made a mod of Seclusion. I am sure you have all seen it, it is an absolute piece of trash. I admit it, I cussed him out via IMs, but there is never going to be a permanent fix to this problem. Deal with it, I did.

Any further points (such as your lack of spelling) would be un-needed bickering about small details I dislike. I will not get into them for my own sake, not yours. But I do see the potential for a successful team; which is why I am posting this.

CMT does contain a few nice qualities, but I honestly can't speak of them after typing up what you just read. If any of you fanboys dare attempt it, all I can say is don't make me have to add another idiot to my ever growing list.

Oh, and if anybody likes to laugh at my habit of making lists: I have to because I have so many points, not making a list would only confuse me, possibly in-addition to you.

-I apologize to Dane for making him look bad, and thank Donut for the quote.