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Author Topic: How AND When to Start a Mapping Team! (28 messages, Page 1 of 1)
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DarkHalo003
Joined: Mar 10, 2008

All ARs Need Green Little Buttons.


Posted: Aug 16, 2008 11:14 PM    Msg. 1 of 28       
Okay, recently, there have been a ton of threads regarding recruitment for mapping teams. However, there are some that have failed to accomplish even the most basic requirements when trying to start a mapping team. Here is a list of topics you want to have at the ready:

Something to Show:
You have to have pics of some of your WIPs (work in progress). No pics, equals no gos most of the time. Even if it is just a tad bit of something, it's still vital that you post some of your work. Failing to do this will not only waste your time but also risk the chance of you ever having a mapping team to lead.

Something Unique
It's good to have a unique topic or something people can take reference to for the mapping team you're making. If you are just going to make a mapping team that makes any map, than please show some concepts or ideas of maps you want to make.

You MUST Tell of What You Can Do
Say what you are proficient in or what you can do in Halo Custom Edition. It's best to be able to work with Sapien and Guerilla for starters and maybe modeling. If you become an expert in HEK (Sapien/Guerilla/Tool) then you are definitely good to go. You can always find modelers some where to help you out.

Positions of Interest
There are many positions of interest that are good to know of:
-Modelers- build objects, weapons, buildings, actual LEVELS, etc.
-Texturers/Skinners- They make the models looks pretty (you want to have ones that can self-create textures and UVW Unwrap too).
-Taggers- Tag the compiled models in Guerilla and prepare them to be used in-game. If you are good at this HEK, than there is no need to have many of these.
-Testers- Really at your own dismay. They can be your friends, people you trust, or at the best your own team members.

Connections
It's best you have multiple friends and connections throughout the internet and entire Halo CE community. They can offer advice, help, and friendly conversation throughout the stressful and/or difficult times of Team leading.

Think Ahead
It's best to plan what you are going to do. Even if they aren't date coordinated plans, it's best you have plans for what you are going to do AFTER your latest project is done.

Always Have a Second In Command
When you either need a vacation or someone to take over for a while, it's best to have a second in command. This person is either your most trusted, reliable, and experienced person on the team. Make sure they are ready to step-in and take over at a moment's notice.

NEVER RELEASE YOUR FIRST MAPS
This is factual information. Never release your first maps. This why you have Beta Testers. Wait till the map you have been working on is Bug Proof if possible, then you can submit for download.

Follow these Tips and you'll eventually be able to start a team. It's also very good to be in a team before you start your own. That way, you can see how it's done and you can get the hang of how things operate. Remember to not rush starting a team and make sure you have plenty experience in HEK and other important basics in map making. There are always going to be people interested in a strong looking team.


iizahsum
Joined: Jun 22, 2008

Lacks enthusiasm


Posted: Aug 16, 2008 11:22 PM    Msg. 2 of 28       
good post but i dont really think any spaming/noob team maker will take the time to read it but overall i think you did a great job.


Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007

@lucasgovatos


Posted: Aug 16, 2008 11:23 PM    Msg. 3 of 28       
Quote: --- Original message by: Not_the_red_button
NOW THIS, this should be stickied very helpful now we wont get any spam mapping team topics that fail

i no rite


ODX
Joined: Jul 26, 2007

A rare sight, indeed.


Posted: Aug 16, 2008 11:23 PM    Msg. 4 of 28       
Damn, beat me to it :|


DarkHalo003
Joined: Mar 10, 2008

All ARs Need Green Little Buttons.


Posted: Aug 16, 2008 11:24 PM    Msg. 5 of 28       
Well, there were just so many new people trying to start mapping teams. Someone asked me to post something, so I did. I think (or rather I hope) this will help people understand something about mapping teams.


supersniper
Joined: Jul 28, 2007

fear the sniper


Posted: Aug 16, 2008 11:25 PM    Msg. 6 of 28       
Good job I like it. I vote for sticky.


il Duce Primo
Joined: Apr 22, 2007

CMT Team Leader


Posted: Aug 16, 2008 11:27 PM    Msg. 7 of 28       
This won't help anyone. People who will lead a good team would know this. By showing this it's not going to help them much. People will always make these topic and thats why you don't post in them.


DarkHalo003
Joined: Mar 10, 2008

All ARs Need Green Little Buttons.


Posted: Aug 16, 2008 11:29 PM    Msg. 8 of 28       
Quote: --- Original message by: il Duce Primo
This won't help anyone. People who will lead a good team would know this. By showing this it's not going to help them much. People will always make these topic and thats why you don't post in them.

Then tell me why no one has made one yet? You only say that because you know how to start and manage a team. Many don't. In these occasions, it's important to have these reminders at least. Keep in mind the experienced community is only a fraction of it. There are still others who want to start a team, but don't know how to.


supersniper
Joined: Jul 28, 2007

fear the sniper


Posted: Aug 16, 2008 11:30 PM    Msg. 9 of 28       
IT will help the people that actually WANT to have their map team successful and well respected. It will be helpful maybe not to all but to some.


il Duce Primo
Joined: Apr 22, 2007

CMT Team Leader


Posted: Aug 16, 2008 11:35 PM    Msg. 10 of 28       
Quote: --- Original message by: DarkHalo003
Quote: --- Original message by: il Duce Primo
This won't help anyone. People who will lead a good team would know this. By showing this it's not going to help them much. People will always make these topic and thats why you don't post in them.

Then tell me why no one has made one yet? You only say that because you know how to start and manage a team. Many don't. In these occasions, it's important to have these reminders at least. Keep in mind the experienced community is only a fraction of it. There are still others who want to start a team, but don't know how to.

Sorry for not typing it out like an essay. What I meant was topics like "I want to start a team". Those topics should not be posted in and ignored. (They will get the point that no one wants to join. If not then ignore the topics that follow.) The people who create them definatly don't knwo how to lead a team. Do you really think a person who wants to be a leader should just read this and be able to be one. Things don't work that way.


Donut
Joined: Sep 30, 2006

I swear I'm not actually dead


Posted: Aug 16, 2008 11:36 PM    Msg. 11 of 28       
i vote for sticky. this is helpful


DarkHalo003
Joined: Mar 10, 2008

All ARs Need Green Little Buttons.


Posted: Aug 16, 2008 11:41 PM    Msg. 12 of 28       
Quote: --- Original message by: il Duce Primo
Quote: --- Original message by: DarkHalo003
Quote: --- Original message by: il Duce Primo
This won't help anyone. People who will lead a good team would know this. By showing this it's not going to help them much. People will always make these topic and thats why you don't post in them.

Then tell me why no one has made one yet? You only say that because you know how to start and manage a team. Many don't. In these occasions, it's important to have these reminders at least. Keep in mind the experienced community is only a fraction of it. There are still others who want to start a team, but don't know how to.

Sorry for not typing it out like an essay. What I meant was topics like "I want to start a team". Those topics should not be posted in and ignored. (They will get the point that no one wants to join. If not then ignore the topics that follow.) The people who create them definatly don't knwo how to lead a team. Do you really think a person who wants to be a leader should just read this and be able to be one. Things don't work that way.

You never know. Motivation and interest spark from a word or action.
Edited by DarkHalo003 on Aug 16, 2008 at 11:42 PM


iizahsum
Joined: Jun 22, 2008

Lacks enthusiasm


Posted: Aug 17, 2008 12:15 AM    Msg. 13 of 28       
as i said before this is helpfull and a good post and vote for its sticky so people take notice too it


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Aug 17, 2008 01:27 AM    Msg. 14 of 28       
You're really in no position to tell people how to run a mod team, but some of your points are good.

Me, Seraphim and Leet should really try to come up with some guidlines on the proper way to lead and manage a team.


supersniper
Joined: Jul 28, 2007

fear the sniper


Posted: Aug 17, 2008 01:45 AM    Msg. 15 of 28       
Hdoan??

What about SoniceXtreme?? for the sonic map team?


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Aug 17, 2008 02:47 AM    Msg. 16 of 28       
HDoan won't mind me saying, as it's been shown on the forum, the team often hits alot of rocky spots. I didn't think of Sonic, but idk how his mod is comming along.


DarkHalo003
Joined: Mar 10, 2008

All ARs Need Green Little Buttons.


Posted: Aug 17, 2008 08:45 AM    Msg. 17 of 28       
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
You're really in no position to tell people how to run a mod team, but some of your points are good.

Me, Seraphim and Leet should really try to come up with some guidlines on the proper way to lead and manage a team.

It's really for starters Masters. If you want to construct a thread regarding professional mapping teams, then be my guest. The more tips the better.

Edited by DarkHalo003 on Aug 17, 2008 at 08:45 AM


gruntfromhalo
Joined: Nov 21, 2007

actual loli


Posted: Aug 17, 2008 10:12 AM    Msg. 18 of 28       
I vote for sticky


iizahsum
Joined: Jun 22, 2008

Lacks enthusiasm


Posted: Aug 17, 2008 10:45 AM    Msg. 19 of 28       
Quote: --- Original message by: Joshflighter
You know dennis doesnt sticky topics unless its something with RUELS or a major update to the game itself.... He told me that if you want to post a tutorial, you upload it. This is like a tutorial...
this is true make it pdf or html and upload it as a tutorial on the website then when people search tutorial they will find this


Dark Ninja
Joined: May 26, 2008

The internet shows how stupid people are.


Posted: Aug 17, 2008 11:30 AM    Msg. 20 of 28       
I vote for sticky. This isn't an insult to that sos kid, is it?
Sneaky ninja says ninja votes count as two
Edited by Dark Ninja on Aug 17, 2008 at 11:34 AM


DarkHalo003
Joined: Mar 10, 2008

All ARs Need Green Little Buttons.


Posted: Aug 17, 2008 01:16 PM    Msg. 21 of 28       
Quote: --- Original message by: Dark Ninja
I vote for sticky. This isn't an insult to that sos kid, is it?
Sneaky ninja says ninja votes count as two
Edited by Dark Ninja on Aug 17, 2008 at 11:34 AM

Of course not, it isn't an insult to anybody at all (seriously). Many new comers were just trying to start their own team so someone asked me to post something about this and I did. I think this is necessary. And Josh, please be less pessimistic. If you say you're being realistic than there are people who have already disproved this.


DarkHalo003
Joined: Mar 10, 2008

All ARs Need Green Little Buttons.


Posted: Aug 17, 2008 03:24 PM    Msg. 22 of 28       
Quote: --- Original message by: Joshflighter
Quote: --- Original message by: DarkHalo003
Quote: --- Original message by: Dark Ninja
I vote for sticky. This isn't an insult to that sos kid, is it?
Sneaky ninja says ninja votes count as two
Edited by Dark Ninja on Aug 17, 2008 at 11:34 AM

Of course not, it isn't an insult to anybody at all (seriously). Many new comers were just trying to start their own team so someone asked me to post something about this and I did. I think this is necessary. And Josh, please be less pessimistic. If you say you're being realistic than there are people who have already disproved this.


Oh, so now everything on this form is fantasy? I am being realistic. Look at what Dennis told others with tutorials on how to do stuff. Use a pdf or something, and upload it to the site. You may be trying to do a good deed, but it fails of deaf ears. Why? Because if people want to make something, they wont care about what a member says. Hell, once the thread dies... You lost everything you were working toward.

The funny thing is, Flighter, you've been more of a pain in the side than any other member has in a long time. Your posts have become irritating and downright unpleasant. No, I never said this place was a fantasy, but it's not a lost cause if you'd actually help out. On top of that, there have been a few people that question how to do this. Some don't know when to do so, and this thread is to help them do so. In honesty, Flighter, your attitude has deteriorated for the worst. But why do you care what I have to say? You're just going to retaliate saying that this is a waste and that I'm stupid or something set out to insult me. I'm not wasting my time. Why? Because unlike some people, I actually care the well-being of the forum and those who post stupid stuff. Why? I like to help people. You got problems with it? Stop posting.

This actually has some use too. People will see it and they may think before they post about a mapping team and prepare for it. It can be a psychological thing as well as a direct thing. You never know how people are going to react 100% of the time.


DarkHalo003
Joined: Mar 10, 2008

All ARs Need Green Little Buttons.


Posted: Aug 17, 2008 03:38 PM    Msg. 23 of 28       
Not the red button, it's best you stay out of this.


DarkHalo003
Joined: Mar 10, 2008

All ARs Need Green Little Buttons.


Posted: Aug 18, 2008 08:03 PM    Msg. 24 of 28       
No, you are only smelling the aftermath.


Rm860
Joined: Sep 7, 2006

Dennis sleeps like this!


Posted: Aug 18, 2008 09:01 PM    Msg. 25 of 28       
Everything you said was all good but serious mappers all know that.

See i still think people make one key mistake and they form a map team too early. Personally i think it's best to form a project team first. Complete a project (just 1) as a group just to see if you can work together well enough and get something done. I think a map team should only be formed after a project team was created and finished a work.


DarkHalo003
Joined: Mar 10, 2008

All ARs Need Green Little Buttons.


Posted: Aug 19, 2008 06:32 PM    Msg. 26 of 28       
Quote: --- Original message by: Rm860
Everything you said was all good but serious mappers all know that.

See i still think people make one key mistake and they form a map team too early. Personally i think it's best to form a project team first. Complete a project (just 1) as a group just to see if you can work together well enough and get something done. I think a map team should only be formed after a project team was created and finished a work.

It's really meant for newbies. If Masters and that crew of leaders want to create a thread dedicated to how to run a team professionally, he can be my guest.


DarkHalo003
Joined: Mar 10, 2008

All ARs Need Green Little Buttons.


Posted: Sep 8, 2008 08:37 PM    Msg. 27 of 28       
I'm bringing this back up because people are starting to try and start mapping teams again. Just thought this MAY help.


Edited by DarkHalo003 on Sep 8, 2008 at 08:38 PM


DarkHalo003
Joined: Mar 10, 2008

All ARs Need Green Little Buttons.


Posted: Sep 8, 2008 08:55 PM    Msg. 28 of 28       
lol, old speech is old.

 

 
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