I just started....well learning about halo ce mapping, custom weps, ect. And I wanted to know the peoples opinion.
-playing HCE maps-> well; now in this day in age ect. ect. what kind of maps do you like to play. I mean as in classic halo (default weps ect), H2 based, or H3 based, and why? also would you care if a map had all default stuff and it be extremely fun, or play say an H2, or H3 based map? and finally how do you feel about real world weps in a map. ex: you enter a map and all weps are say like, glock, m4, ect. in a halo map??

I know it's a bit much to ask, but I just want to know your thoughts, and opinions on this.

H3 weapons. I don't have H3 and don't intend to but a 360 just for one.

Stick to classic. Its tried and true so long as you think about balanced weapon placement, sightlines, height advantage, and risk v.s. reward.

If you do develope your own custom wep set keep it down to about 5-7 weapons that are all unique.

Well a lot of the newer and younger people like to see halo 2 and 3 content. A lot of the more experienced people prefer classic weapons. but you cant really generalize that to a group of people. most of us like a map with classic weapons because when you start throwing in weapons from other halo games it is hard to balance gameplay and the stuff usually doesnt work right in halo 1's engine such as the sword. as long as the map has gun, balanced gameplay it doesnt really matter to me.

We need more trippy maps, like pipe dream.

Well, take a look at some of the maps with the most downloads... other than hugeass and coldsnap and extinction and similar maps...

So long as it is balanced, has good gameplay, and the level itself does not make the eyes bleed, its a good map.

Balance takes many forms, all of them should be near perfection. There is vehicle balance, weapon balance, and the fact that the shape of the level should be balanced... sans some maps such as Zanzibar and Highground, which seem to have a "scenario" going on: a beach assault, meaning offense MIGHT need to have less stuff, but then again, vehicle counts can do that perfectly (in some cases, depends on the map and whether or not vehicles are scripted in or simply placed in)...

Good maps:

New Mombasa Classic
Portent
Wartorn Cov3 (wartorn cove 3)
Grove_final
CMT_Snow_Grove (basically grove_final with higher cliffs, a snow theme, and mostly balanced custom weapons, pistol is a bit strong though)
Chronopolis_C3_Public_Beta_0.2 (the 0.2 IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE 0.3 IS A CITY ROLEPLAY-BASED MOD BY SOME RANDOM MODDER!)
Prime_C3 or Prime_T3


You know what... the list goes on... there are alot I have not mentioned, such as Zteam's maps... look at those... closest to Halo 2 that you can get...

There is also a collection of H2 Maps that are relatively close to what Halo 2 is actually like... look for em.

And H3MT will be coming out with H3-Style maps soon.


If you like crazy mods, try stuff like coldsnap and hugeass I suppose... also look for mech gulch.
If you get angry and like to blow the living crap out of everything at times, get chaos gulch and host a game of it! The weapons are uber powered... so... yeah...

Lastly, welcome to Halomaps!
Edited by Enzo03 on Apr 22, 2008 at 09:54 PM

I do like it h3 accurate, but I still want a powerful h1 pistol, and mabey even health bars. I don't want a 100% H3 perfect mod.

Eh... H1's pistol is overpowered. I have been seen calling it a weapon of mass destruction, but then I play Snow Grove and... yeah...

i prefer custom weapons as long as they are balanced.....since actually "classic weapons" are balanced, but to a negative way

h1:

AR behaves as a SMG
pistol behaves as a rifle

h2 / h3:

AR behaves as a AR
BR behaves as a rifle
SMG behaves as SMG
Pistol behaves as pistol

EDIT: as for real weapons as glock pistol, FAMAS rifle, Mp5, etc etc....i dont like them much since they dont fit very well in the halo theme
and besides these weapons should be VERY "outdated" for the halo era, so in theory they shouldnt do as much damage as halo era weapons
Edited by _TheArbiter_ on Apr 22, 2008 at 10:16 PM

^ I agree with Arbey. I hate that the AR is practically an SMG.

*Stares at Selentic with an angry expression*

Yep, botting against Ganon's thugs deserves bans don't it now? Way to go off-topic Selentic, again.

If only polticians were human. *sigh*

Anyways, I like the Halo3 aR because it beats the first one. Like Arbiter said, it actually behaves like an AR. It truely balances out Halo gameplay.

I like maps that are balanced and have lots of choices in weapons. Maps like Snow Grove, H2 Sanctuary, and even the H3T betas are some of my favorites.

PS: H1 pistol=whore weapon. There, I said it.

True. Custom weapons rule.

I wish I gad the money for 3DS max 8...

New guy, and I already wuv him <3333

To me weapons are harder to make then maps, because with weapons you need to add WAY more detail into it.

I like all custom weapons, but in order to create a good map, the weapons need to be in sinc with the map.

If the weapons aren't in sinc with the map then the map won't be fun to play.

Like if you play Chiron, you want to use shotguns. ARs and pistols suck at Chiron. Its just not as fun. So the weapons shpuld match the size and layout of a map.
Edited by TVTyrant on Apr 24, 2008 at 12:56 AM

I concur.(means I agree with you)

I love custom weapons, as long as they are in sync with their surroundings.

Indubitably.

Or people who actually know what they are talking about. When a pistol is stronger than a Rifle, there has to be something wrong. No offense selentic.
Edited by DarkHalo003 on Apr 24, 2008 at 10:37 PM

Last time I checked, he wasn't whining.
It's a fact that the pistol is overpowered. I use it all the time and get assloads of kills with it. Are you now going to say that I don't know what I'm talking about?

Guess what? Kiwi knows what he's talking about too. He uses the pistol and gets loads of kills with it, and guess what? People playing Halo 3 get loads of kills with the BR. It's called skill. If the pistol was overpowered then it would make some weapons completely worthless. It doesn't. The only two weapons Kiwi's seen that are generally regarded as worthless are the Plasma Pistol and the Needler. The needler is more of a specialized weapon as is the plasma pistol. Hell, Kiwi doesn't even see the plasma pistol used in all covenant games. If you want to talk about overpowered then look at the Fuel Rod and flamethrower.

On this issue I actually don't agree. I have always felt that the Pistol in Halo 1 is overpowered or more precisely not in balance with the other projectile weapons.
You are mistaking tactics for weapon balance. A rocket launcher or Fuel Gun is supposed to be what it is: large powerful and dangerous. When comparing a pistol to an automatic machine gun like the battle rifle the pistol should be much less effective, yet it isn't. Three shot kills with a pistol when it takes half a clip from a BR is not true balance. Plus the level of accuracy over distance is much higher with a pistol which is counter-intuitive to real world experience.
The term “overpowered” is a misnomer. What people should be saying is that the pistol is out of balance to the other weapons.

Kiwi sees the flamethrower used in smaller maps alot, not TOO much in chillout, for some odd reason. Kiwi's also found that the fuel rod and flame thrower doesn't balance out with their equivalents.

Just for today and possibly Sunday afternoon.

The number of rounds they hold are imaterial to the stopping power of the amunition. In the real world a pistol round has nowhere near the power or velocity of a single rifle round.
Edited by Dennis on Apr 25, 2008 at 01:58 PM

well remember halo is based like 500 years from now so by that time who knows

You said it takes half a clip to kill. In Halo 2 if Kiwi recalls, it takes 4 shots to the head. In Halo 3 it takes 5. Also, Kiwi is pretty sure the pistol uses more powerful ammo then the Battle Rifle. Also, you could say that the Mark VI's shields are more powerful. But explaining the difference in power between the games is pointless.

Still Wesman, they obviously havent advanced much if they use 500 year old tech.Or they would have some futuristic weapons that can instantly kill.

Point proven.

Not true. In the books, the pistol is described as 'huge'. But the BR is enormous. The 9.5x40 is short, but designed to be super efficient in its powder burning. The more powder is burned at once, the faster the round, and also the less recoil. No, powder is not all burned at once, it takes a few milliseconds. And no, fast burning powder isn't the solution. The faster you burn powder, the less velocity it builds. You want a slow burning powder that is all burned at once. Thats what the BR is. And 9.5mm is like .375 caliber, while the 12.7mm pistol is .510 caliber. Yes, the pistol shoots a larger slug, but it wouldn't be nearly as fast. And if your saying its that way because its the future, wouldn't the BR be even more gigantic than it already is? If the pistol has the power of a .500 S&W mag, than that BR should have the power of a .375 Weatherby magnum, which is a preferred Water Buffalo caliber!