umm, what are you talking about, MS rebuild vista from the ground up, Vista has NO relation to xp whatsoever

It is the same exact kernel from way back when Windows 3.1 came out. It is not a ground up built OS. It has 100% relation to every other release of Windows because the are all the same kernel If they rebuilt Vista from the ground up, it would have taken much longer for it to be released.

he is, I know FOR A FACT that vista was rebuilt from the ground up

If you knew anything about Windows, you would know that. It takes too much time and money to re-write an entire kernel for an OS. So what Microsoft, and everyone else who makes operating systems (even the Linux distributors) does is just make modifications to the kernel. The Linux Kernel has been the same thing since Linus Torvalds wrote it. The Mac OS was the same kernel until they made Mac OS X use the Unix kernel. Windows has used the same kernel since Windows 3.1, and all they have done is add modifications to security, the GUI and such.

that doesn't mean that hey couldn't re-do it the same way they did XP. its all the same knowledge right? maybe they didn't re-use the exact coding or whatever it is but they could have just redone it the same way. i say you give old billy a call and find out for yourself.

What I am saying is that they used the same core kernel from 3.1, along with all the features from the previous release. For example, Windows 95 and 98. Windows 95 introduced a long list of things to the Windows operating system, including a new GUI. When Windows 98 was released, it used the same kernel as 95, just they added more stuff. It is the same in the Windows 98 to Windows ME updates, the Windows ME to Windows XP update, and the Windows XP to Windows Vista update. It makes absolutely no sense to go re-write an entirely working source code for an operating system that has been used since the 90's. It would cost too much, and take too much time, and in an economy like the one here, taking too much time can take your company out of business. Besides, if they re-wrote the kernel, it would no longer be Windows.

But it is the same core code as Windows 3.1-XP. They simply added and removed stuff from the old kernel from XP. Mostly it was additions.

Oh wait, I was wrong, to an extent.


See, same codebase AKA same kernel.
Edited by SiMuLaCrUm on Nov 24, 2007 at 09:11 PM

Windows 95 and 98, and even to some extent, ME-XP and possibly Vista, have DOS running in the background. XP and up, not as much though.

How? I just said that Vista was based off the Windows Server 2003 kernel. Like all other releases of Windows, it was just a modification to the kernel. Adding and removing stuff, that's all really.



That too...
Edited by SiMuLaCrUm on Nov 24, 2007 at 09:27 PM

You're not going to get too far in life if you keep thinking like that...

This is going to get locked but hey!

And By the way, I find something from the general public easier to trust BECAUSE anyone can fix it and make it right. NOT EVERYONE is out there to change history. If Wikipedia lied, then I bet MS would have fixed it by now. (You know you would fix any errors in a wikified project you worked on)

Why trust public better than private-sector stuff? Because for all we know, Cololmbus came from Spain and the general public back then thought the world was flat. Oh, wait, it says that in the history book, yet College professors teach against Kindergarten logic.

There are whole rewrites of the linux kernel, if I ma not mistaken, there is KDE and the other one that started with a G........ Still, Linux really needs some good games to come out for it.

(and for those who were wondering, the DOOM and Quake series are developed and ported by the original makers to work in linux)

OK found it. It is not the 3.1 kernel, but the 3.1 NT kernel.



Here's the thread http://www.microsuck.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11509

Yay, I agree with you on something!
Edited by SiMuLaCrUm on Nov 25, 2007 at 09:20 AM

Obviously they don't have time to test everything, but the way Vista was developed was rushed. They released it practically as soon as they had a working release, whereas the newest version of OS X was released about a year late due to testing and such. Microsoft did practically the same with the Xbox 360, they released it as quickly as they could, and look now, it is full of bugs and errors.

The OS discussion is interesting but not remotely related to the topic or appropriate for this forum about Halo CE.

I will leave you with this thought: The Absolute Best OS is the one you like that does the things you want.