Im making this new space map. The base models originally belonged to Selentic, so heres his credit. I just textured it (still beta). Also, can anyone help me out with the tanks? i set their bounding radius to 2500 but they don't show up ingame, only in Sapien. a little help please?

it looks like good start. its good idea but i suggest reworking the layout of the map. the bases are nice those can stay. but it seems like its going to be mostly vehicular combat, especially with banshees. i agree there is too much open space. slayer wouldn't be that fun, and in CTF everyone will just hop in a banshee and fly up to the other base, grab the flag and scram. it has potential to be a very good map, it just needs some work on the layout.

problem is i can't find enough models to fill the gaps, and god knows i suck BUTT at modeling. Also I can't get those tanks to show up ingame, and I think im going to replace those banshees with more, "Suitable" Fighters. I might add like bridges & stuff so you can use warthogs.

i think the problem is that since they are on top of each other you are forced to use the banshees to get to them. if they were parallel, or even just at a similar height with a bridge, the warthogs would be a lot more useful and practical. but thats just from what i can see here. i don't know if thats exactly how it is, thats just what i got from those pictures.

make sky roads all about the place

add lights... its dark... too dark, u may wonder off to space and wont no.

use light fitchures or whatever, they are fun

I would bring the top and bottom planes of your map to be side by side or across from one another somehow. Very interested in seeing how this map turns out.

no the onewith the chairs was on my last computer which crashed, so i had to start over. HOWEVER, these bases have NICER textures. gonna need some help with vehicle teleport though...

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Good news... I replaced those banshees with wasps, and I added equipment sheds (for decor, possibly useful for vehicle teleport), pelican bases & pelican scenery, and some alert lights.
Edited by MechWarrior001 on Sep 12, 2007 at 09:34 AM

sounds like its going to be a awsome map,cant wait for it to come out

Wasps aren't the only custom alternate to banshees you know. Ever look at these?
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?pg=3&fid=2024

I've hardly seen any maps with them and they fly really nice, so at least beta them in your map to see if you like them better or not, though in my opinion the handling of the venture is clearly superior to the wasp.

To make them work there all you have to do is set the entry/exit animation in the venture.model_animations tag to either none or roll.

actually the counterpart of the banshee (in halo2) was going to be the kestrel....here on halomaps u can find one.......and on halo3 it will be the hornet

Thats true, the Kestrel would go well in this map since it seats 5 and there isn't a direct way between the two levels without vehicle teleporters. I'd vote for Kestrels and vehicle teleports to liven things up, though the Venture is still a really awesome vehicle. The Kestrel has odd handling on some maps I've seen it in but if you know your way around the vehicle tags I imagine you could play test some tweaks.

Using concept art for Halo 2 that didn't make into game, Wave of Lag made one. So it is custom.

but the hornet looks more fancy and its from halo3....but u would need to model it

Update: I added Vehicle teleporters for both teams, all 4 vehicle teleporters should be able to teleport all land-based vehicles (which is warthogs). Wasps have been edited to provide better handling & speed, i need some guys on Xfire to help me beta. Thinking about replacing the standard font with Aurek-Besh ( http://www.dockingbay101.com/fonts/ for more info on it), and Ill think about the vulture & krestel. Here's Pics:












Edited by MechWarrior001 on Sep 12, 2007 at 09:42 PM

Stick with one type of architecture.

I couldn't. Those fuel tanks were scenery and when i put them in the map none of the other scenery showed up so... ya.

the whole map looks like cairo station combined with the POA or somthing

ok i took the suggestion of replacing wasps with Ventures, but um.....

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You messed up some object or function....

I mean the mix of forerunner and human textures, it doesn't look right, despite how close the two styles are.

i didnt change any of the tags at all, and i cant find the exit & entry animations in the model.animations tag.

Just put the wasp back... Just make it a little slower so I can actually get a shot at a stationary target... Too fast...

They were uploaded that way, I found that out the hard way.

Here is what to do:


Thats all you have to do to fix it, so its not that hard to do once you know what to look for. I had quite the time trying to figure that one out, lol. Anyhow, I hope you like this vehicle. It flies like a dream. The rocket launcher has a high reload rate - don't change that, its that way for balance.



I would give the venture a chance before going back to the wasps. The venture is larger and has a more fair rocket reload rate - it fires once every 12 seconds as opposed to 3 at once every 5 or so seconds. The original wasp was a pain to fight since it was immune to rocket fire from other wasps and was a small target, though it handled like a boat at a times compared to the banshee.


Edited by SGWraith on Sep 13, 2007 at 11:38 PM

Thanks SGWraith, now, I have generated a beta map, heres link: http://files.filefront.com/space+2rar/;8550172;/fileinfo.html

This is only a beta. Feel free to post any suggestions you have to the map.

You're welcome, MechWarrior. I'll check it out tomorrow, just remember to get people to test the Venture vs other vehicles to check for balance. The venture can turn on a dime practically, so it can be overpowering if its rocket launcher is too effective. If you find that to be the case, you'll want to halve the damage or the area of effect.

hey anyone knows who leaked the beta?

Well, whoever is the idiot who leaked the beta is in for a suprise

no, but its not the final, in truth, its just a beta, in the final, its gonna have some extra features.

dont let hogdriver turn your map into Noobfest '07.

You did.

ROFL, ADD much Mech?

Guess I didn't see that coming, oh well.

Anyways, anyone have any idea for what a gravity generator & a shield generator would look like so i can (try) to model them for the map?
Edited by MechWarrior001 on Sep 16, 2007 at 11:52 PM

if i made a a geosphere, that had a transparent texture, and its inside another (much larger) geosphere marked +sky, will the inner sphere show as transparent & still be able to see the sky?