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Nexus Halo
Joined: Feb 24, 2007

Halo's Dark Knight http://www.nexushalo.kk5.org/


Posted: Sep 3, 2007 10:34 PM    Msg. 36 of 90       
A little late but bam.

http://umtmapping.freeforums.org/viewforum.php?f=12

Lists the UMT members and what they can do.


Wolf_
Joined: May 16, 2006


Posted: Sep 4, 2007 09:53 AM    Msg. 37 of 90       
Personally i think we should start a prject were everyone in team can put in a idea and help whit..Thats one thing that brings a map team together(i recomend a singleplayer)


il Duce Primo
Joined: Apr 22, 2007

CMT Team Leader


Posted: Sep 4, 2007 03:41 PM    Msg. 38 of 90       
Wolf be dissapointed in yourself..be ashamed... Very Ashamed

P.S. I agree with the get our team to get working as more of a team.. but plx no campaghn.


Caboose117
Joined: Jul 23, 2006

Seriously guys?


Posted: Sep 4, 2007 05:33 PM    Msg. 39 of 90       
Single player is different from campaign. Campaign=Collection of Single player maps in a storyline, Single player maps are just maps for one person with AI. Its actually a good idea for UMT.... Considering as of the time I left, there wasn't much going on for most people...


Jay2645
Joined: Mar 29, 2007

Cortana saw you naked.


Posted: Sep 4, 2007 08:12 PM    Msg. 40 of 90       
I have been begging Mass to make a campaign since he became leader, and Ganon before that. Ganon just... Ignored me, while it isn't going to happen when Mass is leader, because: "Making a campaign map is the equivalent of making 3 multiplayer maps for the modeling alone, and I want to concentrate on Paradox and Archive V2 before we even think about making a singleplayer map, and then it probably isn't going to happen."

He has also told me this in the past: "I told you to not make any announcements for UMT on H2V or Halomaps, leave that to me. You didn't mess anything up this time, but next time I'm gonna throw you naked into a cage with a wild Snafubar."
I'm scared to make any more threads for anything after he said that...
Edited by Jay2645 on Sep 4, 2007 at 08:12 PM


Caboose117
Joined: Jul 23, 2006

Seriously guys?


Posted: Sep 4, 2007 08:32 PM    Msg. 41 of 90       
I would never have suspected Massacre of such influence...


Jay2645
Joined: Mar 29, 2007

Cortana saw you naked.


Posted: Sep 4, 2007 08:38 PM    Msg. 42 of 90       
Quote: --- Original message by: teh ganon
Quote: --- Original message by: Jay2645
I have been begging Mass to make a campaign since he became leader, and Ganon before that. Ganon just... Ignored me, while it isn't going to happen when Mass is leader, because: "Making a campaign map is the equivalent of making 3 multiplayer maps for the modeling alone, and I want to concentrate on Paradox and Archive V2 before we even think about making a singleplayer map, and then it probably isn't going to happen."

He has also told me this in the past: "I told you to not make any announcements for UMT on H2V or Halomaps, leave that to me. You didn't mess anything up this time, but next time I'm gonna throw you naked into a cage with a wild Snafubar."
I'm scared to make any more threads for anything after he said that...
Edited by Jay2645 on Sep 4, 2007 at 08:12 PM


waoh waoh woah.... we are working on a sp like you said jay, remember mass was on vacation? Its being custom made and if your talking about a mod of the campaign lmao because i think your just talking crap now. That or you have alzheimers.

The second one. I think. What?


Yoda117
Joined: Jun 5, 2007

Created this account when I was a 13 yo moron


Posted: Sep 5, 2007 08:49 PM    Msg. 43 of 90       
i want to join UMT


ICEE
Joined: Mar 1, 2007

Hark!


Posted: Sep 5, 2007 08:59 PM    Msg. 44 of 90       
Quote: --- Original message by: D4NO
rofl, Massacre is the only person on UMT of considerable skill. Everyone else just seems to be getting a free ride from him. Without Massacre, you guys wouldn't have a team.

What on earth does anyone else on the team do? Sapien? OH GOD SUCH SKILL.

Whoever uv maps though, is a complete retard. Archive version 1 has the worst uv mapping I've seen in a map for a long time.

Also vehicle boarding won't work properly without the original scripts. only zteam has those.


Jay2645
Joined: Mar 29, 2007

Cortana saw you naked.


Posted: Sep 5, 2007 10:21 PM    Msg. 45 of 90       
Quote: --- Original message by: iron clad
Quote: --- Original message by: D4NO
rofl, Massacre is the only person on UMT of considerable skill. Everyone else just seems to be getting a free ride from him. Without Massacre, you guys wouldn't have a team.

What on earth does anyone else on the team do? Sapien? OH GOD SUCH SKILL.

Whoever uv maps though, is a complete retard. Archive version 1 has the worst uv mapping I've seen in a map for a long time.

Also vehicle boarding won't work properly without the original scripts. only zteam has those.

That is a quote. You learned something today! Yay!


Donut
Joined: Sep 30, 2006

I swear I'm not actually dead


Posted: Sep 5, 2007 10:40 PM    Msg. 46 of 90       
i gotta say, i really dont think i was used much at all when i was UMT. i really felt underused, and i felt that the team wasnt a team. thats kinda of like sigma too (deeeeep we gotta work on that). but mass modeled the bsp and then the rest was jay and sim. and i think ganon did some work too. but no one ever asked me to do anything. that the reason almost every mapping team fails. no body is coordinated. thats my opinion and im voicing it. if you dont like it, then let the flaming begin.


ICEE
Joined: Mar 1, 2007

Hark!


Posted: Sep 5, 2007 10:44 PM    Msg. 47 of 90       
JAY: stfu i was agreeing with dano

donut: also agreeing

umt is all massacre. the reason donut was never really used was because (pure speculation) donut is the hud guy primarily. and since UMT never redid any weapons or god forbid make their own then what did they want donut's abilities for? a good team does everything


Wolf_
Joined: May 16, 2006


Posted: Sep 6, 2007 11:35 AM    Msg. 48 of 90       
Quote: --- Original message by: Donut
i gotta say, i really dont think i was used much at all when i was UMT. i really felt underused, and i felt that the team wasnt a team. thats kinda of like sigma too (deeeeep we gotta work on that). but mass modeled the bsp and then the rest was jay and sim. and i think ganon did some work too. but no one ever asked me to do anything. that the reason almost every mapping team fails. no body is coordinated. thats my opinion and im voicing it. if you dont like it, then let the flaming begin.
Well if you wanted to make something then you just had to tell ganon(when he was boss)But then you Should not just put something together and it looks like crap..
More work and so on gives it a better result..:D SINGLEPLAYER OWN!


il Duce Primo
Joined: Apr 22, 2007

CMT Team Leader


Posted: Sep 6, 2007 02:50 PM    Msg. 49 of 90       
The only way i could see a single player thing would work is to make our own game in the halo engine. Custom everything is what I mean by that. But i know that would never happen. Plus that would take too long and no one is gonna want to do something like that.


Yoda117
Joined: Jun 5, 2007

Created this account when I was a 13 yo moron


Posted: Sep 6, 2007 06:08 PM    Msg. 50 of 90       
New weapons makes everything better. Either new weapons or modded ones. All the good maps have new weapons because people are attracted to new weapons in a map. New weapons makes people wanna download maps.


corndogman939
Joined: Apr 6, 2007

Using the same avatar since 2007


Posted: Sep 6, 2007 06:15 PM    Msg. 51 of 90       
that doesnt necessarily mean the map will have good game play though. the map could be really bad but it would still get a lot of downloads because people want to use the new weapon. its the same thing with vehicles too.


Yoda117
Joined: Jun 5, 2007

Created this account when I was a 13 yo moron


Posted: Sep 6, 2007 06:17 PM    Msg. 52 of 90       
Yes, same thing with vehicles, scenery, bsp, and over all gameplay as you said. I was just stating that weapons have a great effect over a map.


Jay2645
Joined: Mar 29, 2007

Cortana saw you naked.


Posted: Sep 6, 2007 06:52 PM    Msg. 53 of 90       
There is one new weapon, another one of Donut's things that made it into the map, the chaingun. It has been vastly improved since Donut left the team (Lol, he may not like my improvements, faster rate of fire, no melee, no grenades, more accurate, 200 round clip, 1 clip maximum, just like the H3 chaingun), but we are retiring it in favor of a new one (I CALL DIBS ON THE SCRIPTING FOR IT!).

Reason why we don't have any custom weapons: Ganon (Or Mass, I forgot which, but I think both of them, actually) likes the Bungie weapon set, which has been pre-balanced and had everything set up so it works like a charm in the default multiplayer maps. I managed to convince Ganon to allow 1 new weapon, which Donut was working on at the time, the Chaingun. After messing with Donut's tags to make it more H3-ish (The default was more balanced, and fired half as fast as it did now), I inserted it in there. We beta tested the thing, but as soon as someone got the chaingun they were taken out before they could cause too much damage with the thing. It wasn't until the map got leaked did I realize it played hell with the balance Ganon had worked so hard to preserve. Upon realization of this fact, I made even more changes to it for the better, but now it is time to retire it.
With any luck, I can push my custom Battle Rifles (Yes, there are more then one, no details yet) into V2, but they won't emerge, in Guerrilla even, for about a Month.
Edited by Jay2645 on Sep 6, 2007 at 07:00 PM


corndogman939
Joined: Apr 6, 2007

Using the same avatar since 2007


Posted: Sep 6, 2007 09:05 PM    Msg. 54 of 90       
i agree, bungies weapons are perfectly balanced. its a matter of how you place them though. yes its always fun to have custom weapons but you have to really think about how they will effect the gameplay.


ODX
Joined: Jul 26, 2007

A rare sight, indeed.


Posted: Sep 6, 2007 09:20 PM    Msg. 55 of 90       
Quote: --- Original message by: corndogman939
i agree, bungies weapons are perfectly balanced. its a matter of how you place them though. yes its always fun to have custom weapons but you have to really think about how they will effect the gameplay.

*COUGH* pistol *COUGH*


corndogman939
Joined: Apr 6, 2007

Using the same avatar since 2007


Posted: Sep 6, 2007 09:35 PM    Msg. 56 of 90       
well maybe everyone might not agree with the weapon balances, but i for one love the pistol. i really dont think its unfair. its probably a lot easier to get killed by a noob with a RL than a noob with a pistol.


ICEE
Joined: Mar 1, 2007

Hark!


Posted: Sep 6, 2007 09:44 PM    Msg. 57 of 90       
well i believe all teams should be rounded. whether that means TOTALLY redoing weapons or just remodeling, reanimating and retexturing, then i think it should happen. you dont need to change aweapon's balance to make it your own.


il Duce Primo
Joined: Apr 22, 2007

CMT Team Leader


Posted: Sep 6, 2007 09:55 PM    Msg. 58 of 90       
Thats wat i was thinking so its still halo and it can have better models... and we can swap the pistol with some sort of rifle to make it actually ya kno more realistic compared to the rest of the weapons.


Jay2645
Joined: Mar 29, 2007

Cortana saw you naked.


Posted: Sep 7, 2007 12:32 AM    Msg. 59 of 90       
The pistol is on my list of favorite weapons. Here is the order I would switch weapons (Please note I am usually on vehicle patrol, so I pick up weapons to take down vehicles).
I'll just pretend this is Blood Gulch.
1. Rocket Launcher
2. Sniper Rifle
3. Fuel Rod Gun
4. Pistol
5. Flamer
6. Shotty
7. Assault Rifle (Useful, if you know how to use it)
8. Needler
9. Plasma Pistol
10. Plasma Rifle

Now, of course, my weapons of choice vary depending on what I'm going to try to do; If there is a noob camping the teleporters, I will:
A. Get a Shotty, back into the teleporter, and kill the noob.
B. Get a Hog and splatter the guy.

If I am to be used as a sacrifice to distract the other team while the rest of my team makes a dash for the flag, I choose between the Assault Rifle, Pistol, and Flamer. If I don't have a flamer nearby, I grab the pistol; same for the Assault Rifle. Or I simply get in a Hog and try to hit as many people as I can while making circles around the base, waiting for my teammate to grab the flag and hop in. If he dies, I go in myself, grab the flag, and 95% of the time I am in my Hog and underway before anyone opens fire. Once I had the flag, tried to get away, and I kept hitting the same tree just outside the base. Surprisingly, not a single shot came in range.

Some bad news for UMT, guys... Mass is quitting, and from the looks of our Xfire conversation, he isn't coming back. Since this is no longer a UMT project, I'll transfer power over to Massacre.
Edited by Jay2645 on Sep 7, 2007 at 01:18 AM


n00b1n8R
Joined: Jun 14, 2006

Major League Trolling


Posted: Sep 7, 2007 01:40 AM    Msg. 60 of 90       
Looking good, please fix the ATV animations from the first version :X

deffinetly better than the first one (though it doesn't look much like it either >.>)


Wolf_
Joined: May 16, 2006


Posted: Sep 7, 2007 08:49 AM    Msg. 61 of 90       
Well if he is then i guess i am to...:(Bah....Let me think about it...


Geo
Joined: Mar 2, 2007


Posted: Sep 7, 2007 10:46 AM    Msg. 62 of 90       
I'm currently working on the custom weapons, for security reasons, only ganon,mass, and wolf have seen them. And to assure you, they are frickin' good.


Geo
Joined: Mar 2, 2007


Posted: Sep 7, 2007 06:11 PM    Msg. 63 of 90       
Nothing, just saying only you and two others have seen the weapons.


Jay2645
Joined: Mar 29, 2007

Cortana saw you naked.


Posted: Sep 7, 2007 06:30 PM    Msg. 64 of 90       
Quote: --- Original message by: teh ganon
does someone want to tell me what happened?

Massacre let D4NO get to him about him being the only one who does anything, and left UMT. I've tried to bring him back, but to no avail. According to Mass, he took il Duce Primo under his wing to learn modeling a little while ago, and Mass says Duce is ALMOST as good as him, but I'm not putting any confidence into that statement until I see a render.


ICEE
Joined: Mar 1, 2007

Hark!


Posted: Sep 7, 2007 06:38 PM    Msg. 65 of 90       
Quote: --- Original message by: Jay2645
The pistol is on my list of favorite weapons. Here is the order I would switch weapons (Please note I am usually on vehicle patrol, so I pick up weapons to take down vehicles).
I'll just pretend this is Blood Gulch.
1. Rocket Launcher
2. Sniper Rifle
3. Fuel Rod Gun
4. Pistol
5. Flamer
6. Shotty
7. Assault Rifle (Useful, if you know how to use it)
8. Needler
9. Plasma Pistol
10. Plasma Rifle

Now, of course, my weapons of choice vary depending on what I'm going to try to do; If there is a noob camping the teleporters, I will:
A. Get a Shotty, back into the teleporter, and kill the noob.
B. Get a Hog and splatter the guy.

If I am to be used as a sacrifice to distract the other team while the rest of my team makes a dash for the flag, I choose between the Assault Rifle, Pistol, and Flamer. If I don't have a flamer nearby, I grab the pistol; same for the Assault Rifle. Or I simply get in a Hog and try to hit as many people as I can while making circles around the base, waiting for my teammate to grab the flag and hop in. If he dies, I go in myself, grab the flag, and 95% of the time I am in my Hog and underway before anyone opens fire. Once I had the flag, tried to get away, and I kept hitting the same tree just outside the base. Surprisingly, not a single shot came in range.

Some bad news for UMT, guys... Mass is quitting, and from the looks of our Xfire conversation, he isn't coming back. Since this is no longer a UMT project, I'll transfer power over to Massacre.
Edited by Jay2645 on Sep 7, 2007 at 01:18 AM



bs all ive ever seen you use is a banshee


Quote: --- Original message by: il Duce Primo
Thats wat i was thinking so its still halo and it can have better models... and we can swap the pistol with some sort of rifle to make it actually ya kno more realistic compared to the rest of the weapons.



covenant carbine makes for a great pistol replacement

Quote: --- Original message by: iron clad


umt is all massacre. the reason donut was never really used was because (pure speculation) donut is the hud guy primarily. and since UMT never redid any weapons or god forbid make their own then what did they want donut's abilities for? a good team does everything



i retract this statement. massacre has left, but i suppose i have seen good things from jay in the photochop department.


adumbass
Joined: Nov 22, 2006


Posted: Sep 7, 2007 06:44 PM    Msg. 66 of 90       
So.. is UMT gonna die now, or do you guys still have modelers?


Donut
Joined: Sep 30, 2006

I swear I'm not actually dead


Posted: Sep 7, 2007 06:46 PM    Msg. 67 of 90       
this is what i mean. mass left umt, now u guys are kinda screwed. u should have back up guys


Jay2645
Joined: Mar 29, 2007

Cortana saw you naked.


Posted: Sep 7, 2007 06:48 PM    Msg. 68 of 90       
Quote: --- Original message by: iron clad
Quote: --- Original message by: Jay2645
The pistol is on my list of favorite weapons. Here is the order I would switch weapons (Please note I am usually on vehicle patrol, so I pick up weapons to take down vehicles).
I'll just pretend this is Blood Gulch.
1. Rocket Launcher
2. Sniper Rifle
3. Fuel Rod Gun
4. Pistol
5. Flamer
6. Shotty
7. Assault Rifle (Useful, if you know how to use it)
8. Needler
9. Plasma Pistol
10. Plasma Rifle

Now, of course, my weapons of choice vary depending on what I'm going to try to do; If there is a noob camping the teleporters, I will:
A. Get a Shotty, back into the teleporter, and kill the noob.
B. Get a Hog and splatter the guy.

If I am to be used as a sacrifice to distract the other team while the rest of my team makes a dash for the flag, I choose between the Assault Rifle, Pistol, and Flamer. If I don't have a flamer nearby, I grab the pistol; same for the Assault Rifle. Or I simply get in a Hog and try to hit as many people as I can while making circles around the base, waiting for my teammate to grab the flag and hop in. If he dies, I go in myself, grab the flag, and 95% of the time I am in my Hog and underway before anyone opens fire. Once I had the flag, tried to get away, and I kept hitting the same tree just outside the base. Surprisingly, not a single shot came in range.

Some bad news for UMT, guys... Mass is quitting, and from the looks of our Xfire conversation, he isn't coming back. Since this is no longer a UMT project, I'll transfer power over to Massacre.
Edited by Jay2645 on Sep 7, 2007 at 01:18 AM



bs all ive ever seen you use is a banshee


Quote: --- Original message by: il Duce Primo
Thats wat i was thinking so its still halo and it can have better models... and we can swap the pistol with some sort of rifle to make it actually ya kno more realistic compared to the rest of the weapons.



covenant carbine makes for a great pistol replacement

Quote: --- Original message by: iron clad


umt is all massacre. the reason donut was never really used was because (pure speculation) donut is the hud guy primarily. and since UMT never redid any weapons or god forbid make their own then what did they want donut's abilities for? a good team does everything



i retract this statement. massacre has left, but i suppose i have seen good things from jay in the photochop department.

All you've SEEN me use. I have been in many games without you, and I normally don't go for it, but occasionally the thought of using the thing to get a Killing Spree or Running Riot pops into my head, and I feel I deserve it for taking down the thing with whatever weapon I had at the time.

And yes, I can use Photoshop pretty well. I'm not a god in it, but I can make pretty decent bitmaps in the thing. I've made some sexier Hog bitmaps before, with everything improved and optimized on it, plus the addition of a serial number (2645-10-25-93). Not sure if I still have the .tif file, if I do, I'll upload it to Photobucket.


il Duce Primo
Joined: Apr 22, 2007

CMT Team Leader


Posted: Sep 7, 2007 06:50 PM    Msg. 69 of 90       
I can still model and all but and i have a project that i personally have been competing with mass and i think it will take away his project and it will replace it. I would of showed a render but i dont think i want to yet. You'll hear about it in the upcoming week is the best time i can give you. The only way the team will make it if someone takes power and goes masterz on them and cracks down and gives everyone some jobs. and everyone in UMT.. don't even think about quiting.. so help me god.


Donut
Joined: Sep 30, 2006

I swear I'm not actually dead


Posted: Sep 7, 2007 06:55 PM    Msg. 70 of 90       
eh if u kick jay ill take him. also, jay, you cant upload tiffs to photobucket for some reason. they needs to be gif bmp jpg or png.

 
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