yeah, something like that I expected and I know that the CMT team is very small, but meanwhile you lasted almost 3 or 4 years with CMT SPV3 and they could have arranged the most notable errors of BSP (narrow textures) and edges make them more like what they did in A50


Edited by UHWArby on Jul 11, 2014 at 01:51 PM

I guess I have to remind you guys. Masterz is the only one working on SPV3. Not all of CMT. Almost all of CMT is focused on the release of B30:E. Anything you see in that teaser (and the upcoming trailer) are mostly things Masterz has put together. There are a few things that I've worked on, but only small things. Same goes for a lot of what you see. Things like the BR display are largly argued against within the team (especially by me), but Masterz is "in charge" of it. Don't blame all of CMT for something one guy has been putting together for the past year and a half.
Edited by BobtheGreatII on Jul 11, 2014 at 02:32 PM

I understand it, the have do a good work, but could have fixed a bit the BSP, Mmm... i dont know Perhaps the had hidden with objects example: rocks or grass

Thanks Bob for pointing that out, for some of us I knew this already because masters is the only guy from cmt who gives us updates but thanks anyway.

Yes, the one who gives us ideas of levels

the one who gives us information called masters is the one who keeps us up to date (I sound like a kraang droid) can't wait for ce3 next week.

8 days

And counting...

past pages in the Thread I found with it that I thought that was part of a something new, but I realize that this already is had shown before:

not is if the person that public has filtered by this post but I'm sure that they showed some images in a video of Masters

and sorry if I just publish it

New grunt?



I think so!

I didn't know SPv3 was making use of dynamic crosshairs too!

That is one good looking grunt and does anyone notice that brute it looks a stalker and in the video I think I saw a skimrisher because of seeing something a jackal with elbow shields.

Yes, they had as a placeholder reach grunts, now they have CMT's grunts

I hope that the marines also
Edited by UHWArby on Jul 11, 2014 at 05:21 PM

Yeah there's definitely a skirmisher at 0:05 in the video



Stalker looks aight

So SPV3, is just a side project, by Masterz? While the rest of the team works, on TSC:E.


And the things he's doing are things, the rest of the team doesn't want.

It sounds like SPV3, is just a way to make Masterz un-involved, without having to fire him. While everybody else works on TSC:E. Meaning, CMT isn't working on two projects, really. It's that CMT is working on TSC:E, but don't want Masterz involved. So they "let" him do SPV3, instead. That would explain why the BSP, looks so weird, now. Compared to TSC:E, last year. And why it's always, only Masterz posting. And why CMT are still doing campaign mods, when they're also doing a completely new level.

I'm not saying, that's what it is. We can't know, really. But, it sounds like there's a lot of disagreement. CMT's said that SPV3, and TSC:E, are using different weapons. And now, that SPV3 is just Masterz. And to not blame the rest of CMT, for what doesn't look good, in SPV3. That sounds to me, like CMT isn't feeling good, about SPV3.

I hope, I'm just being pessimistic. I want to enjoy, whatever CMT releases. I guess we can see more clearly, when we see CE3.

I'm not sure if all those commas were needed.

Masterz is putting all of SPv3 together, but by no means does that mean he's doing everything alone. The main CMT team is working on B30:E and the tagsets. It's mainly Masterz working on the SPv3 side of things, with other people helping him.

Doing some bsp additions + using stock stuff doesn't require as much work as creating an entire level from scratch.

I would post updates on my work, but I don't know what I can or cannot say\show, so I leave it to Masterz.

damn too much orgasm for today




found on page 95 the Thread



Yes, sorry but always mention the entire team because i dont know who actually do such work



and is a little right since a person with a great project cannot do it alone and need help
Edited by UHWArby on Jul 11, 2014 at 05:38 PM

Guess no updates for awhile aw well still pumped for ce3.

To say I am the only one working on it isn't really accurate. I've been working mostly with Kirby, arteen, Alexis, jesse and h3 freak, with lag bob and silicon participating in their downtime.

Hello, Halo friends. An update from the TSC:E team:

The Silent Cartographer: Evolved will release on August 29, 2014.

"August 29th?"
yes
"Wait! You said it was coming in July!"
yes
"That's not July!"
yes
"Why isn't it coming in July?"

funny you should ask

TSC:E was planned to launch alongside a headlining new Open Sauce feature. The usual problems with hacking one's way through a now-13-year-old zombie engine have not been kind to the OS team; and so, getting this feature out in time for TSC:E's release became very unlikely. While we did promise July, giving ourselves an extra month to polish and improve the rest of the map -- allowing the OS guys the time they need work things out -- was something all of the TSC:E team were happy to take advantage of.

The feature is Directional Lightmaps.



These add directional information to Halo's lightmaps. Part of that means "just better" lighting, with light bouncing and accumulating more and more accurately; but the big deal is that they allow lightmaps to bring out normal maps on BSP textures.

This is a seemingly small addition with practically enormous consequences. You already know what normal mapping does with directional lighting on game objects -- allowing for the same detail on BSPs means we can bring the environents to a level of fidelity that was simply not feasible until now, at very little cost to your computer and almost no cost to our lighting process.

(For the technically minded, here's further information on what exactly is involved with this kind of tech)

We just got DLMs online in TSC:E's BSP -- we've been waiting on that to accompany this announcement; the above test pictures are less than an hour old, and there's still a lot of debugging and testing to do before they're fully ready -- but we've developed a number of other cool new things since we last checked in, including:

-switching seamlessly between an underbarrel grenade launcher and regular grenades with a GL-weapon equipped
-a new two-piece Shade turret that you can knock off its base with a well-placed Warthog ram
-a checkpoint warning system that lets you know when the game wants to save, but can't because you need to take cover
-a new system that allows you to use the two healthpacks inside Warthogs

...and this is all happening alongside a constant process of asset optimization, through which we've trimmed literal dozens of megabytes and literal hundreds of tagslots -- giving us even more space to use for things like the new Grunt.

TSC:E will be absent from the upcoming CE3 presentation -- Masterz has plenty of SPV3 content to fill that space -- but be assured that this latest release date is the real deal. Expect to hear a lot more as that day approaches.
Edited by Ifafudafi on Jul 12, 2014 at 01:34 AM

It's looking good!

Will the new version of OS be released alongside the project or sometime before?

Again, this is a great leap for the Halo CE community. Great job Open Sauce team and CMT.

Okay now that... is definitely cool.

You'll know as soon as we know
Edited by Ifafudafi on Jul 12, 2014 at 02:22 AM

We should also add that the delay in DLMs partially stems from the 1.10 update resulting in changes in OS, so blame gamespy.

Wasn't this doable with Aether years ago? What advantage does implementing this via OS have over baking lightmaps in 3ds? Maybe I'm misunderstanding something fundamental here.
Edited by rentafence on Jul 12, 2014 at 02:39 AM

Aether takes a considerably longer time to set up.

Aether wasn't using Directional Lightmapping, Aether was a tool used to create higher quality lightmaps. This is giving us access to use normal maps on BSPs as well as higher quality lightmaps. Half Life 2 uses directional lightmapping, take a look.

Yeah I totally understand that, but I figured if Aether allowed me total control over my lightmaps, then it seems like it would be trivial to bake the result of lighting on normal maps directly into the lightmaps.
Edited by rentafence on Jul 12, 2014 at 03:15 AM

Such an approach would be technically possible, but the resulting lightmap would need to sufficiently match the pixel density of the normal maps applied to the environment shaders for the entirety of the environment geometry in order to capture lighting details at the same scale. That would not be a feasible solution for most cases.
Edited by teh lag on Jul 12, 2014 at 03:47 AM

nice pics looks a little real

and because no better to wait the new version of the OS before leaving the cmt spv3 and TSC:E?

already is that sounds crazy and that that would take one year more to improve some things but still does not come out a new version and is almost going to come out CMT SPV3 and nobody wants to go back to version 1.09 to play with OS

and I think that it is good that it is delayed a little more the TSC:E :/


Edited by UHWArby on Jul 12, 2014 at 11:04 AM

TSC:E delayed oh well at least you guys can finish up the map good luck to you guys.

To add to this, our dlm system is a descendant of Aether that outputs three lightmaps instead of the single standard one. As a result every part of the lightmap has 3 directions of light data, allowing for normals to stand out the way you would expect them too. This is a heck of a lot more efficient than trying to bake stuff into a standard lightmap.
Edited by slashrat on Jul 12, 2014 at 11:38 AM