Auhhh.... That's unfortunate. It would have been cool.

Also, remember to pm me or something when you guys are beginning on flood levels because i got a cool idea for them.

I Was waiting a multiplayer of cmt spv3 for original maps cea style too (CMT MPV3 (?)

I wait marines and tanks and floods and maps CEA style (and the interior of truth and reconciliation)

and I wait mas for videos :D
Edited by UHWArby on Jan 4, 2014 at 12:56 PM
Edited by UHWArby on Jan 4, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Dude, they're working on this Spv3 for like one year and a half I think, and they didn't even finish half of the campaign. Give them a break and stop mentioning about MP as it would most certainly be a laggy experience anyway.

Well really, it's only been about one year. We did t&r from summer 2011-winter 2012, and then started TSC and SPV3 at the same time around summer 2012 till current, and we all had to halt progress during fall semester.

That was a great read.
annnndd it's gone
Edited by xnx on Jan 4, 2014 at 03:22 PM

3 years You lasted

In case none of you are subscribed to masterz, he recently made a video public from back in the summer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2W1kaDaJio

"Apparently this has been private since the summer? Oops?

This is triggered by boosting the lifepods becon, which brings all the Phantoms down on you at once, but if you can survive long enough you get the longsword bombing. Think of the area as firefight, and this being the optional bonus round." -video description


idk if anyone posted it here yet but I didn't see it if they did
Edited by Delicon20 on Jan 4, 2014 at 10:26 PM

I'm sure this will be said here but....

Not really, i just sent some really tiny robots to their labs and they broke some instruments, ha.
Otherwise, your idea is not really bad..

Yay, new grunt bipeds!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRpO3XqM_I8

(Yea, I know it's a bit late for Christmas stuff)

I think those are the Halo 3 grunts that I recommended for them to use as place holders so we don't have to look at the Halo 1 grunts all the time.

I would like to see a new model of the longsword in this campaign and I see that the map looks great with those textures,I would have liked to see the structures as in halo CEA, but this would be already to change the game graphically



I have seen the grunts carefully in the gameplay of CE13
Edited by UHWArby on Jan 5, 2014 at 09:54 AM

Well, it's more for our sake of managing space in the map and setting up features for them than to make them look pretty for you guys. All of our grunts have backpacks that can be shot off like reach, and we also have helmets for the specop grunts and such.

We won't be redoing stock BSPs again like A50, it's a huge hassle and makes it harder to maintain proper FPS when you change an element that big near the end. I'm sure you're all familiar with the piss poor performance in A50's custom area.

Crit: As I originally scripted and did most of the testing for the original LS bombing run in Lumoria:ep2, there was a few things I found that you should also note that I can clearly see in the video:

The longsword needs to be up higher in altitude. It clips through the trees.

The longsword needs to travel faster, and also be more synced to the sound your using it. It looks and sounds fake. A longsword is a stealth bomber - not some b29 super fortress. Its a dang b-2, and they go fast.

The bombs dropped are extremely robotic, not sure if you've ever even seen any bomber drop bombs before, but its pretty chaotic - look at this video for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phzRY0DdRXk The bombs need to be spread out more, in various X and Y positions across the ground, and not go off in "lines" at the same exact moments. It looks really bad that way.

One last thing thats always great is to have actual bombs fall from the bomber. A literal model with animations. It creates a great final touch to the entire scene.



That doesn't stop the fact that the literal particle effect looks terrible.
Edited by Higuy on Jan 5, 2014 at 10:33 AM

Wouldn't this kill all the marines and crewmen that were there? /:I

lol screw the marines and crewmen, its not like we're there to save them or anything

who cares don't we all kill them either way?

Who cares? Nobody likes humans..

Would new tree models be too much to ask for?

I think that should be after they evacuated and if the player wants to stay you can have an extra round

Yes, it requires a lot of time to take care and nurture a small sapling.

or better yet how about you kill the marines so the explosions don't have to. Who here has never killed a single marine before?

Given the scarcity of ordinance available to the Marines on Installation 04 (I believe it's mentioned in the books that they could barely find missiles for the Pelicans), I think that if you're going to be adding an airstrike to this level, there should be some Wraiths involved; higher-priority targets that you can't really deal with at this point any other way except by airstrike.

Maybe they could be coming up out of the tunnel or something.
Edited by Echo77 on Jan 5, 2014 at 03:35 PM

This brings up another really good point. The entire airstrike is off canon. The POA was in the middle of crashing at this point, do you think these forces would be mobilized so quickly? The longswords outside of the POA during the initial cutscene were probably blown to bits anyway by the entire Covenant fleet that was out there too.

This kind of airstrike would probably be better purposed for a different mission, after Keyes has been rescued and the base was established.

WOW that is incredible that do stuff like that!

Umm Captain Keyes is a great and wise man. You think he would tell his fleet of Longswords to attack a whole Covenant fleet that has his ship surrounded and is trying to capture? No way! Captain Keyes told the Longsword pilots "Look bro, I'm going to land the ship on the ring, you guys go scout it and find a place to land so we can have air support when we try to regroup and fight the Covenant on the ground."

So basically, what Captain Keyes is trying to say is he doesn't give a crap about what cannon he may or may not be breaking, because you can talk around the swiss cheese that is this games story.
Edited by Masters1337 on Jan 5, 2014 at 06:56 PM

I dunno about that. If a target as big as the Autumn made it down, and the unarmed lifepods were able to make it down with limited maneuvering ability, I don't think it's too unbelievable that at least a few of the Autumn's Longsword escorts made it as well. It's not too far of a stretch to consider that a portion of the surviving fighters might follow the lifepods, perhaps even being the main reason the pods were able to reach the surface without being blown out of the sky.

The pilot of said Longsword might not have been "mobilized" when carrying out the airstrike at this point; he'd probably be improvising, trying to provide a bit of cover for the pods that, for all he knows, contain the Autumn's last survivors.

^and Cortana, who the Captain said needs to be kept safe from the Covenant at all costs.


Let's talk about how CMT violates cannon even more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r25atDsQ4YE&list=UUTzBnTiXmsrbffBPn3NsYvg&index=1
Edited by Masters1337 on Jan 5, 2014 at 07:44 PM

I don't think rechargeable plasma weapons violates canon; there has to be some way to recharge them, otherwise each weapon could only be used once. And that would just be silly.

*watches video again and stamps seal of approval* Seems to be a good system. Like the sound effect. Bzzzzzzt.
Edited by Echo77 on Jan 5, 2014 at 07:51 PM

http://youtu.be/5ImMhlecZeY
I remembered that there was a reloading animation for a cmt plasma rifle.
I also recall this was done for fun and won't be in this version of CMT right?

I thought that was true what you said, and I think that the recharge pistols and plasma rifles would be a good area since go to find another with 76 or or with luck one of 95 and then having to use it

I hoped that this time they do not bring the brutes so give it a little canon in campaign

and the ODST if you get canon to the campaign that there was within POA

But if you want something different from the charger make it a bomb and destroy the ship and give you some alternative missions (something that would be impossible) C:



recharging a plasma rifle?....

...
I don't think, so that it would be absurd and this thing of overheating
Edited by UHWArby on Jan 5, 2014 at 08:40 PM

Even if it is canon, its a pretty terrible spot to put something as epic as a longsword bombing run. If you really would put it here, your going to need to back it up with better stuff farther into the campaign. I don't know if you've ever realized (I don't think CMT has ever payed a lick of attention to this kind of stuff - your guys missions show it) but a game, especially one like Halo, takes time to build up to things. Alot of the missions I've played by you guys introduces just about everything in a single mission - why do this if you have to make more levels afterward? They just become rehashes of the same things introduced over and over. I'm talking about weapons, ammo, grenade types, vehicles, enemies, etc etc. e.g it's like putting all the covenant variants into the POA mission without leaving any room to explore more in the further missions afterward, especially when you guys are increasing level sizes to pretty boring lengths (seriously, the original lengths were perfectly acceptable, some were long as they were). The longsword is the same thing as that - it takes time to build up to those kind of epic moments people don't expect. You can go Micheal Bay explosions all you want, but that doesn't make it any better than it already is and frankly makes things like a longsword bombing run - and whatever keeps coming - boring and predictable.

i disagree, i think that any surviving longswords would sure as a grunt birthday party, have gotten out of the PoA before it crashed... unless they were all baked out their minds. next, i figure since at that point, since they wouldn't have a base, they'd probably try to find a safe point to land to save fuel and supplies. if CMT believes alpha base is more important than conserving fuel, then that's their choice, but i doubt there'd be anything else worth the fuel cost in that mission.

as a fan of CMT SPV3 all that show makes me give even more hope that this time they will change what would be all that the game that could actually do but improved and perhaps time in some 3-5 years will improve it even more (i dont know if you understand me)

That looked cool to me. I can't wait. I'm pretty sure you've read Halo: The Flood, which is my favorite novel of the franchise. I think if a squad of pelicans could make it out of the POA with Foe hammer, it seems logical for at least 1 or 2 Longswords to have made it out intact. Even though the book doesn't mention it.

Although, i kind of have to agree with Higuy on the building up for the Longsword airstrike. However, i don't remember a level that would give you decent amount of space for a proper airstrike other than the the second level. From what i remember, the rest of the levels are just boxes, except for TSC. TSC is like half opened box...

Edited by Kal825B on Jan 5, 2014 at 10:29 PM