Here im gonna clear up some stuff since it's sorta gettign out of hand.

1. It's not the focus rifle

2. it's a new a unique covie weapon.

3. It's not a Beam Rifle, even though I love the Beam Rifle in H4 compared to H2 and H3.

It looks almost identical in that icon aside from the lower grip, give it a distinct character or make it a focus rifle.

Something weird to think about might be a long-range, medium-low spread "shotgun" type weapon.

YES! FINALLY! :)

Edit: wait nvm... I thought it was the focus rifle :(
Edited by xKRONNiKx on Oct 28, 2012 at 04:56 PM

It is distinct in its own way, if you really compare it by looking at the side profile of the actual focus rifle you could see there is still alot of difference. And no were not changing it.

Look at the silhouette, it is VERY different. It just has the ONE distinctive part of the focus rifle, which is the front part, that is the only reason it looks like the focus rifle really.

In any other way it looks very different, especially the functionality of it. It will be awesome.

I wouldn't go so far as to say it was VERY different, because most everyone thought it was a Focus Rifle at first glance, and the two designs share a variety of similar details. That being said, it does look different enough to to be identified as a seperate weapon, although one that I would associate with being a member of the Focus Rifle family. It also seems to take some inspiration from the Covenant Carbine.
Edited by Echo77 on Oct 28, 2012 at 08:47 PM

I just played a50 again for the first time since its release. REALLY FUN. I think it was the first time I actually sparred with newer CMT Brutes and I'm really impressed by them. It's just a really pretty visual mod and the AI is pretty sweet.

Thanks for not tampering with the cheats. Devmode really saturated the whole A50 SPv3 experience. It'd be nice if as many weapons as possible (best case scenario: all of them) were included in the weapons_list for all the maps --- this will become integral to the dynamic fun I'll get from replaying and horsing around in the campaign.

It doesn't work like that, you can't just populate the list.

From what I can tell:
MP cheats list - spawns weapons defined in the .globals (also how halo spawns weapons on certain gametypes.
SP cheats list - spawns weapons compiled within the map (even a biped carrying an unplaced pistol for example.) but not sure if they have ALSO be in the globals.

They don't have to be in the globals (for SP).
One of the SP maps I extracted from had no weapons in the globals.At all.
Edited by Dumb AI on Oct 28, 2012 at 10:49 PM

For CMT we strip the globals for extra tag slots for sapien, as sapien requires more tags to operate than the the actual game (and tool).

Why would it need more?

certain parts of ingame viewer elements rely on tags to operate.

So that's why people get tag slot errors...

I've noticed that some Halo CE forums have become the forum equivalent of ghost towns,with less than 2 people posting at any time.
Edited by Dumb AI on Oct 28, 2012 at 11:23 PM

I'm not following you, did you mean you strip globals to get rid of unnecessary tags? How does that add the ability to add more tags? I'm interested in this :o

She is correct, there's a few other MP specific things relating to UI. Also I believe hud stencils and some other xbox and pre-h1 refs are loaded into sapien as well from the globals, even though they serve no purpose what so ever now.
Edited by Masters1337 on Oct 29, 2012 at 12:01 AM

I was about to post the same pics to compare. They look very similar to me, not very different. They share important features that warrant thinking they are the same gun. The ribbed snout, the hole in the middle, 2 out of 3 of the holes in the butt. The exact same shape patterns in other areas.

Really it just took the focus rifle and edited a little. Very uninspired. It's the kind of change you'd see in a gun from one game to another, where they just change some minor things for the sake of it.

Inb4 being hated for having an opinion. Cheers to that.

Note that I am not saying it looks bad, just that it looks too similar to the Focus Rifle to warrant it being a new distinct gun. Most people here seem to agree that it looks very similar to the FR, hence expectations would be to get a focus rifle. If you really want to make a new gun you should make it look like a brand spanking new one. You are free to ignore my feedback of course, but deep down you know I'm right :p
Edited by The Lodeman on Oct 29, 2012 at 02:06 AM

I don't think anyone here claimed that it would be "a brand spanking new" gun at any point. I think it's more fair to say that it's a familiar weapon, that will most likely not function how you remember it. The goal wasn't to create something new, but to rethink something that already exists. Which has been CMT's goal for a long time.

Don't be too worried though, there are plans for custom content well in the works...

If the ribbed barrel wasn't on it, then people wouldn't instantly recognize it as the focus rifle. Thats the only defining feature really.

People don't pay attention to how many holes are in the grip as you don't see it most of the time.

Honestly, the only difference I see is it being slighly more rounded and the barrel connecting to the grip.

How can the functionality of it look like anything?

Well,take a look at turrets with more than 1 barrel.
Their function would be firing many,many bullets at targets for long periods of time without damaging it barrels significantly enough for a need to change it.
So,that's why they have multiple barrels.
Edited by Dumb AI on Oct 29, 2012 at 06:08 PM

It doesn't, I just know what it does and I can say it is VERY different.

Let's not exagerate. A weapon is a weapon, it shoots a certain projectile in a certain way.
It looks virtually identical and a different functionality would be kind of stupid imo, but if you can't come up with a good looking original design then by all means use the focus rifle.

I would rather have a different functionality, even if the design of the weapon is similar to an already established design.

And I want world peace :)

Both are possible if those with the power to create them are clever.

Now I do not understand that comment...

He want's a different firing style, which can and has been done, and you make a comment which suggests it can't be done...:S

Maybe it can be like the Star Wars laser weapons.
The new rifle could shoot out short laser beams (with less power).
Kind of like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx1540HDRx0
Might be hard to see,since it's a recording of a game,not a film.

It's function has already been done...

Please read this if you didn't.