Shouldn't lag be giving the updates now?
Lol and when do I get to test (assuming OS works now on my system).
Edited by TM_updates on Dec 7, 2011 at 06:20 AM

Masterz is still undisputed public face :P

E: Btw, can I test please? I never leak anything, though somebody tried to frame me for leaking once
Edited by Jaz on Dec 7, 2011 at 06:53 AM

Can i be a Tester?.....What ever, its most likely going to be a no anyways.... If yes, just send me a private message or something. If not, I'll just wait till the full one is released.
Edited by P3 on Dec 7, 2011 at 07:46 AM

we can all be beta testers....next january!

Yeah, but I want to test a map other than Truth and Reconciliation. Truth and Reconciliation is brilliant but I'd prefer it if CMT left it till last so that they can optimize it more. It's a very complex level design in terms of gameplay and I don't want CMT to rush it.

That is quite true.

well I for one am quite excited for their a50 mod, because T&R is tagspace whore map, and I've noiticed that it requires so much by default, mainly because of cinematic props, textures for two environments, large ai variety, bipeds, and two different sets of scenery (ambient outdoor scenery aswell as interior cover and feel setting objects). I want to see how much they were actually able to add while conserving what little tagspace this map has available.

On a somewhat related note, are we going to be interacting with the environment more in the new bsps or will they just be solely for ai encounters?

a50? A tagspace whore map is c40.

I've heard that a50 is also a tagspace ho.

well like last time, i ask if there a chance that you add skulls to the levels, because that and the terminals are the only thing that i want to see in a singleplayer map, and lumoria is the only singleplayer series that is offering one of them, is a possibility that you add skulls or any new easter egg

SPV3's based off a storyline which is owned by 343. Lumoria's based off a storyline which is owned by Lumoria's dev team.

So, if SPV3 had terminals, then they wouldn't be released until Halo 4 comes out, and even then they might run into copyright issues.
Lumoria's team can do whatever they want with the story so they already know what's going to happen in the future.

i didnt say spv3 terminals, i said that the only to assets i like from the remake cea are the skulls and the terminals, and that lumorias has the terminals so it would be cool to se spv3 with skulls in each map if cmt think that it would be nice

sorry but you can't entirely "own" a story based in a universe that's already copyrighted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_art
Edited by HaloIsAHorribleGane on Dec 7, 2011 at 05:29 PM

Most major thing I saw there about copyright on fan art is the Parody bit. So, if CMT made Masterchief into a clown, they'd have an exemption, right?

E: But copyright or no copyright, the canon would be ruined if SPV3 had terminals.
Edited by Jaz on Dec 7, 2011 at 05:32 PM

Not really, both teams can do what they want with their story. Whatever you put in this game and release is ultimately owned by Microsoft whether you like or not, but whether or not they actually chose to enforce that rule is up to their own jurisdiction. But yes, Lumoria can in fact go wherever they want due to the fact that our story is original, CMT's is based straight off the original Halo 1. Id personally rather see them do something original for a change in terms of story/encounters (etc.), but who knows if they ever actually will. And also yes, with the unreleased update for EP1 + the release of EP2 will come a full fledged 4 terminals as a side story.

CMT has the right to add terminals if they actually feel like it, but like I said, its up to Microsoft to enforce the rules, since that those terminals are their property. Chances are though, that Microsoft dosen't care and you could get away with it.

Edited by Higuy on Dec 7, 2011 at 05:42 PM

nobody but 343i can change anything about the canon. as a fan mod team, cmt can do whatever they want.

so what if they decide to make a side story that isn't entirely endorsed by 343i? it's no different than fanfiction.



you say that like it would be illegal to add terminals.

What? How could anything CMT be doing be illegal in the HEK that makes everything you release Microsoft property? Like, it really makes no sense. Think about legality issues before saying something so silly.

Basically. Rights and terms of use only apply with what's in the EULA for the HEK and Halo Custom Edition. The newer Microsoft Terms of Use really are for everything not already owned by Microsoft, like if you were to put Halo 3 assets into the UDK.

firstly, I don't understand the point you're trying to get across. on one hand, you're saying microsoft would possibly step up and enforce some rules about copyright, then you say the EULA says everything put in the engine belongs to them. neither seem related to one another.

as far as enforcing rules, if anything, microsoft would try to shut them down for reverse-engineering their engine and tampering with the code long before they added in terminals.

as for content in the engine, adding terminals is just like adding the br, smg, dmr, armor abilities, sandtrap, and everything else that's been ported over to ce. it's fan works, that's all it is. what that means is they can shut it down if they feel the need, I.E. significant monetary loss, as it is derivative of their IP.

i never said they didn't have the right to do what they wanted with terminals. my point was that someone suggested they use the exact terminals that 343 did, that was were i was coming from (plagiarism idk). and yes its very unlikely Microsoft would ever shut them down with a c&c, but my point stands that they Microsoft can do whatever they want with their game due to the Eula starting so that you agreed too when installing the hek and halo ce itself. i dont even see why your trying to argue with me either, since your basically saying the same things that I am

'Ello everyone! Sorry that I was gone for a long time, cause I know you don't love me. Anyways, looked at the TR level gameplay, and it seems that the project has gone a long way. Also, on Teh Lags video "CMT SPV3 - More Hunter Stuff", I relized that you can push down, and set back up Covenant Crates, is this a new cover system?

1 when did i exactly said i want terminals? i said i wanted skulls, the terminals are not really important and i put lumoria as an example cause with lumorias terminals its more than enough for me and who said to use the cea terminals?
i just want to know if cmt is going to add skulls

What about everyone forget all about this and just wait and see what cmt will do to spv3, and then we can all come back here after its released and rate it as (Cool)-(Ok)-or (Lame). How about that?

I like the way you think.

so... have you guys thought about replacing the old dated halo 1 soundtrack with cea's remastered tracks? just a thought, because imo with all that was wrong with that game, the music was the one thing they did right. well, that and the revamped cutscenes, those were badass.
Edited by Delicon20 on Dec 7, 2011 at 10:38 PM

SPv3 isn't supposed to be anniversary for the PC. Enough about skulls, terminals, and all that CEA junk.

AYE
Except the soundtrack. I think this really could use better updated sounds.

lolwut? C40 is one of the most tagspace friendly maps.



I found the music to be flat out terrible, theres no plans to replace the music as of now, although I'd imagine we'd go with the remastered H3 tracks if we were to do so.
Edited by Masters1337 on Dec 8, 2011 at 12:48 AM
Edited by Masters1337 on Dec 8, 2011 at 12:51 AM

Higuy obviously never modded any levels properly. A50 is a pain. End of story.

When can we expect to see some screenshots or vids from the custom BSP added to a50?
Or will this question be ignored again.

And to any CMT members, you realise you're all invited to the game night right, or are you ignoring it on purpose?
Edited by TM_updates on Dec 8, 2011 at 02:33 AM

then let's agree to....

... agree.



you guys ought to get a musician. out with a whimper has some great title music.. I'm sure somewhere out there someone with that sort of skill would be willing to join

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdg5bVzxZzE

more of his stuff's here

http://halo.bungie.org/misc/P3PP3RM4N_music/
Edited by HaloIsAHorribleGane on Dec 8, 2011 at 04:43 AM

first time i listened to any of this music by p3pp3erm4n, some nice work.
i like the audiomachine stuff that's on you tube, and always thought some it would be good for ingame. check it out if you want... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqhPxgQrOao

Bumping this so you have no excuse to overlook it.

yeah masterz how dare you go 2 hours without checking this thread!!!

especially at 2:00 in the morning!!!