
Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010
"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 03:13 PM
Msg. 1891 of 4332
Quote: --- Original message by: AmazingcuziamQuote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925Quote: --- Original message by: anonymous_2009 You seem to have the basic shape or the top part, get it all done. :)
I like that turret. Magnetic Accelerator Cannon Turret? That would rule. Gauss guns are awesome. I love it when people don't say bad things about my models :D SMOOTH THE #&@% ROUND THING! HA just kidding but you probably should put a smooth group on it. Got a scale? slap a warthog MC or peli beside for scale please. Edited by Skidrow925 on Oct 27, 2010 at 03:15 PM
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Amazingcuziam
Joined: Apr 16, 2010
Sup.
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 03:49 PM
Msg. 1892 of 4332
Quote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925Quote: --- Original message by: AmazingcuziamQuote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925Quote: --- Original message by: anonymous_2009 You seem to have the basic shape or the top part, get it all done. :)
I like that turret. Magnetic Accelerator Cannon Turret? That would rule. Gauss guns are awesome. I love it when people don't say bad things about my models :D SMOOTH THE #&@% ROUND THING! HA just kidding but you probably should put a smooth group on it. Got a scale? slap a warthog MC or peli beside for scale please. Edited by Skidrow925 on Oct 27, 2010 at 03:15 PM  Hows that? Edited by Amazingcuziam on Oct 27, 2010 at 03:55 PM
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MoooseGuy
Joined: Aug 10, 2008
I Approve This Message.
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 04:02 PM
Msg. 1893 of 4332
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anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 04:39 PM
Msg. 1894 of 4332
This is what he making just incase some people don't know. I might sub'd this, I like it. Well, when I get a break from Uni 
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AGLion
Joined: Jun 29, 2010
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 04:41 PM
Msg. 1895 of 4332
That... is a really big gun.
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disturbed
Joined: Jul 31, 2010
Im a mac, deal with it. I still run PC through emu
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 05:16 PM
Msg. 1896 of 4332
0_o when its done you should release it. i wanna test that out.
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G TheFlea
Joined: Sep 19, 2008
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 05:23 PM
Msg. 1897 of 4332
you should call it a rail gun cuz magnetic accelerators aren't as awesome
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Amazingcuziam
Joined: Apr 16, 2010
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 05:48 PM
Msg. 1898 of 4332
 Hows it lookin'? ( inoez about dah smoove grupe arrerz)
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AGLion
Joined: Jun 29, 2010
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 05:54 PM
Msg. 1899 of 4332
Not bad, not bad.
Magnetic Accelerator is so much of a better name, Rail gun sounds like a train is gonna come out of the gun.
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G TheFlea
Joined: Sep 19, 2008
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 05:56 PM
Msg. 1900 of 4332
lol well it is a better name but because of how it works its not as powerful
also i think you need to make sure your gun gets smaller towards the end just like the one from Reach otherwise imo it looks kinda too boxy. and use a chamfer on the outside edges to smooth actually smooth them up, or depending on the size of the model relative to the 3ds max world maybe use a turbosmooth modifier on it .... but if the model isnt big enough it will destroy the model and possibly make it round... Edited by G TheFlea on Oct 27, 2010 at 05:59 PM
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Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010
"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 05:57 PM
Msg. 1901 of 4332
Quote: --- Original message by: AmazingcuziamQuote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925Quote: --- Original message by: AmazingcuziamQuote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925Quote: --- Original message by: anonymous_2009 You seem to have the basic shape or the top part, get it all done. :)
I like that turret. Magnetic Accelerator Cannon Turret? That would rule. Gauss guns are awesome. I love it when people don't say bad things about my models :D SMOOTH THE #&@% ROUND THING! HA just kidding but you probably should put a smooth group on it. Got a scale? slap a warthog MC or peli beside for scale please. Edited by Skidrow925 on Oct 27, 2010 at 03:15 PM  Hows that? Edited by Amazingcuziam on Oct 27, 2010 at 03:55 PM Nice.
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Amazingcuziam
Joined: Apr 16, 2010
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 06:09 PM
Msg. 1902 of 4332
Quote: --- Original message by: G TheFlea
lol well it is a better name but because of how it works its not as powerful
also i think you need to make sure your gun gets smaller towards the end just like the one from Reach otherwise imo it looks kinda too boxy. and use a chamfer on the outside edges to smooth actually smooth them up, or depending on the size of the model relative to the 3ds max world maybe use a turbosmooth modifier on it .... but if the model isnt big enough it will destroy the model and possibly make it round... Edited by G TheFlea on Oct 27, 2010 at 05:59 PM uhh, the one in reach doesn't get smaller, its just the view :). and its boxy because i haven't bothered at all with the smoothing. (I.E. There are NO smooth groups on most of the gun) as for Turbosmooth it makes it look like a crab, and brings the polys (in the main barrel part) up from around 980 to 8000 (in editable poly, so not sure how accurate that is), so umm no.
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G TheFlea
Joined: Sep 19, 2008
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 06:17 PM
Msg. 1903 of 4332
uh ohhhh 8000 polies :| can halo's engine not handle that? and yea i see now its just the perspective but im thinking maybe the entire barrels part could be scaled down on its z axis to be more like the one in the game... orr just the outside edges im not sure but the height and width i dont think should be that close
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Amazingcuziam
Joined: Apr 16, 2010
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 06:32 PM
Msg. 1904 of 4332
Quote: --- Original message by: G TheFlea uh ohhhh 8000 polies :| can halo's engine not handle that? and yea i see now its just the perspective but im thinking maybe the entire barrels part could be scaled down on its z axis to be more like the one in the game... orr just the outside edges im not sure but the height and width i dont think should be that close lol, the engine CAN handle it, but not everyones computer can. and its not only the giant poly leap (which i test in a newer version of max, and is only 4k polys more) it also makes it look like a crab, and rounds it off too much. as for the z scaling, it is near the same (it is a little bigger than it should be though) but part of the "Height" issue is that i have some edges there at a somewhat different angle, making it seem slightly more rounded (depending on your view though) :) i'll see what i can do about it though :)
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G TheFlea
Joined: Sep 19, 2008
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 06:34 PM
Msg. 1905 of 4332
Get better computers people!!! Your bringing us down!!!
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anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 07:32 PM
Msg. 1906 of 4332
Quote: --- Original message by: G TheFlea Get better computers people!!! Your bringing us down!!! It's mainly the game engines fault, due to how old it is. The game engine may render objects weird which needs more memory than other games would to render the same object.
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Geared
Joined: Mar 6, 2009
EPI Creator
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 07:38 PM
Msg. 1907 of 4332
update on chopper: note: engine and gearbox etc are all placeholders till i make detailed ones.
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Newbkilla
Joined: Mar 9, 2008
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 07:39 PM
Msg. 1908 of 4332
Quote: --- Original message by: G TheFlea you should call it a rail gun cuz magnetic accelerators aren't as awesome pretty sure the cannon part makes all the difference broski
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Amazingcuziam
Joined: Apr 16, 2010
Sup.
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 07:48 PM
Msg. 1909 of 4332
looks great :) i was about to say something about the bumps on the (engine i think) but then realized that its a placeholder :P. Beats my MAC cannon by like 10 billion times. Speaking of which, here, you can haz small update http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z361/Amazingcuziam/sbdvasdbgfew.jpg (i noez itz only a link, dont wanna put up another picture ) now all thats left really is just to model the cockpit and get someone to texture it (Any volunteers?) Edited by Amazingcuziam on Oct 27, 2010 at 07:58 PM
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G TheFlea
Joined: Sep 19, 2008
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 08:10 PM
Msg. 1910 of 4332
definately gettin there!! looking forward to the finished product for suuure!! anyone have any ideas as to how i could animate these treads if i actually put this in halo?? orrrr should i turn it into some kinda cool new tank with like 8 wheels on either side?? 
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Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010
"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 09:03 PM
Msg. 1911 of 4332
Quote: --- Original message by: NewbkillaQuote: --- Original message by: G TheFlea you should call it a rail gun cuz magnetic accelerators aren't as awesome pretty sure the cannon part makes all the difference broski A cannon is bigger then a gun.
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G TheFlea
Joined: Sep 19, 2008
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 09:06 PM
Msg. 1912 of 4332
yea but a rail gun shoots projectiles at 2.3 km/s.... mach 7....
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Amazingcuziam
Joined: Apr 16, 2010
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 09:22 PM
Msg. 1913 of 4332
Quote: --- Original message by: G TheFlea yea but a rail gun shoots projectiles at 2.3 km/s.... mach 7.... have you ever seen a MAC round? no, thats what i thought.
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Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010
"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 09:24 PM
Msg. 1914 of 4332
Quote: --- Original message by: G TheFlea yea but a rail gun shoots projectiles at 2.3 km/s.... mach 7.... a MAC goes about 3/4 the speed of light. And if anything is between where it is and where it is going it's not gonna be there anymore.
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Bobblehob
Joined: Aug 29, 2010
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 09:27 PM
Msg. 1915 of 4332
Isn't that gun in Reach called the Mass Driver?
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Advancebo
Joined: Jan 14, 2008
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 09:28 PM
Msg. 1916 of 4332
Quote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925Quote: --- Original message by: G TheFlea yea but a rail gun shoots projectiles at 2.3 km/s.... mach 7.... a MAC goes about 3/4 the speed of light. And if anything is between where it is and where it is going it's not gonna be there anymore. except mac rounds dont exactly explode.
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AGLion
Joined: Jun 29, 2010
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 09:37 PM
Msg. 1917 of 4332
They don't need to explode.
A (let's say) 500 gram projectile traveling at .75c (about 224844343.5 meters per second) would have an energy output of about 1.2639e+16 joules or 3.0207 megatons of TNT.
Enough to shatter anything in it's path (that would hurt, a lot), but I think it's safe to say that MAC's don't shoot a projectile 3/4 the speed of light.
Edit:
Looked it up, and MAC cannons fire 600 ton shells at 30 kilometers per second and Super MAC's fire 3k ton shell at 12,000 km per second.
That would make it so that smaller MACs have the energy of 2.4489e+14 joules or 58.53 kilotons of TNT and Super MACS have the energy of 1.9591e+20 joules or about 4.6824e+4 megatons of TNT.
It would still really hurt. Edited by AGLion on Oct 27, 2010 at 10:11 PM
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Amazingcuziam
Joined: Apr 16, 2010
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 09:55 PM
Msg. 1918 of 4332
Okay, to the whole MAC cannon Rail gun thing, it is a model of a MAC cannon, thats what it will be called, a MAC cannon. Argument over. and to Bobblehob, Yes it is called a Mass Driver, it is also known as a MAC cannon though, if you look when you go to get in it, it says "press "" to enter MAC cannon". 10:42 PM, This just in, i'm pretty much done, here be some picz for you guys :) 5,489 polys (in editable poly), 12k in editable mesh Edited by Amazingcuziam on Oct 27, 2010 at 10:44 PM
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G TheFlea
Joined: Sep 19, 2008
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 11:40 PM
Msg. 1919 of 4332
Quote: --- Original message by: AGLion
They don't need to explode.
A (let's say) 500 gram projectile traveling at .75c (about 224844343.5 meters per second) would have an energy output of about 1.2639e+16 joules or 3.0207 megatons of TNT.
Enough to shatter anything in it's path (that would hurt, a lot), but I think it's safe to say that MAC's don't shoot a projectile 3/4 the speed of light.
Edit:
Looked it up, and MAC cannons fire 600 ton shells at 30 kilometers per second and Super MAC's fire 3k ton shell at 12,000 km per second.
That would make it so that smaller MACs have the energy of 2.4489e+14 joules or 58.53 kilotons of TNT and Super MACS have the energy of 1.9591e+20 joules or about 4.6824e+4 megatons of TNT.
It would still really hurt. Edited by AGLion on Oct 27, 2010 at 10:11 PM where the hell did you get those numbers from?!??! you have to find the relativistic mass because the mass of an object increases when its going .75c the 500gram object's mass increases to 1000grams at 0.75c E = mc^2 total energy = relativistic mass * c^2 the total energy is 1(3.00^2) so thats 9x10^16 Joules extrude that to your super MAC's non existent 3 kilo tonne shell which is actually 2.7e9 kilograms at 12,000 m/s which is 0.00004c relativistic mass would be 2.7e9 kg so the total energy would be 2.43e26 joules when i mentioned that the railgun shoots stuff at mach 7, well... thats in real life... i wasn't talking about the FICTIONAL stuff in halo otherwise of course MAC guns are ridiculously more powerful.. oh and btw, the model is looking great Edited by G TheFlea on Oct 27, 2010 at 11:42 PM
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aZn9ja37
Joined: Apr 13, 2010
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Posted: Oct 27, 2010 11:52 PM
Msg. 1920 of 4332
and probably that rail gun thing would probably be called a mini-MAC(yum) due to the fact MAC guns are huge and and the amount of force coming from something as small as this design we are talkin would not be very realistic or logical.
Sorry, this is a good enough explanation if you ask me. Not goin go into math. Since my Calculus 1 grade is shy from perfect...
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Geared
Joined: Mar 6, 2009
EPI Creator
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Posted: Oct 28, 2010 02:28 AM
Msg. 1921 of 4332
cheif chillin on the bike: 
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Cocaine
Joined: Mar 2, 2009
Can't stop napping.
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Posted: Oct 28, 2010 09:13 AM
Msg. 1922 of 4332
That bike image looked like something out a fashion magazine. As for the Electromagnetic Particle Accelerator (Weaponized), We need some of those in some RPG or huge maps =)
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Amazingcuziam
Joined: Apr 16, 2010
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Posted: Oct 28, 2010 01:10 PM
Msg. 1923 of 4332
So, who wantz me to release it now, and who wants me to ingame it and release it then? and also, who wants meh to makez a falcon? (i dont care if you want me to, im doing it anyways.)
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G TheFlea
Joined: Sep 19, 2008
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Posted: Oct 28, 2010 03:34 PM
Msg. 1924 of 4332
if its textured release it now for suuure cuz id use it in an animation
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Geared
Joined: Mar 6, 2009
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Posted: Oct 28, 2010 03:36 PM
Msg. 1925 of 4332
shiney updates :D ill post a regualr clay later if wanted
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