^LOL!

That's basically all of his sketches. Just manadalorian's, power rangers, and elites put together.

I'll make the newbies feel better.



My only suggestion is to take concepts very seriously. The better you can draw it, in perspective and not 2D, the better you'll be able to implement it. Simple as that. Look at others' good work and learn from that.

Or you could just accept that forerunners only uses machines to do the fighting. No need for powered armour suits, infection resistant suits are enough.

Or you can get the confirmed armor of the Forerunners and modify it to look "more bulky" like a MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/Mark VI...

It's what I was doing. I was making a Pre-Flood-Era Forerunner Soldier.

I think you should spend more time on those drawings. I know they're old, but draw new ones if you have to. Really make it proportional and detailed. I am awaiting your improved drawing.
Edited by spartan314 on Jun 17, 2011 at 11:50 PM

Then you're gonna be waiting a while...

It may be stolen tech, but that doesn't mean they stole the design plans and copied them exactly. I know the covenant base a lot of their tech on forerunner stuff, but they still have their own design style. Btw, just about everything the covenant has has a forerunner symbol on it, but I think that has more to do with them worshipping the forunners than anything else. If are going to make a forerunner armor suit, then use a forerunner art style. If you need something to go off of try this:
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Forerunner_Armor
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Combat_Skin
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/File:Forerunner_group.jpg
http://images.wikia.com/halo/images/c/ca/Forerunner_profile.png
http://images.wikia.com/halo/images/4/41/Ih_promethean_bullet.jpg
(take note of that last drawing because it is a proper concept drawing. It has defined the silhouette, and basic color palette of the figure as well as given a reasonable amount of detail, and especially focused on the head, which is an important feature of the character)

I don't see how it's canonically accurate either. It's covenant armor on a human. It wouldn't even fit a human (look at the size and structural difference between humans and elites). Plus, humanity can't even figure out how to recharge a plasma pistol. I doubt they could figure out how to completely reverse engineer a covenant suit, let alone a forerunner suit.

Stop using that "I only spend 5 minutes on it" line as an excuse. I see it come up every time you post art. I know it's an excuse for poor quality because I used it myself a long time ago. If you put out 5 minute work, you're not going to get any real criticism (which I assume is why you posted it in the WIP thread). Furthermore, if this drawing is just to outline a concept, why not just skip ahead and draw a proper concept? You'll save yourself the time, and you'll be able to produce a higher quality model.


PS:
I just read the forerunner article on the halo wiki and it had this to say:
"They were also known to put these glyphs and symbols onto their weapons, machinery and clothing, something the Covenant also copied, evident with the Forerunner symbols placed on the hilt of the Energy Sword and on the Sangheili Combat Harness."

It's saying the Covenant copied the forerunner tradition of placing their symbols on their weapons and armor, not the actual armor/weapons themselves.

In my full opinion, forerunners shouldn't even have soldier suits. If you're going to make a mod with them, make them more like civilians.
Basically less like marines/elites/spartans and more like civilians that operate powerful-ass turrets and laser machines.

Hmm...Wanna help fix that then when/if you fix the white spot?

The "five minutes" excuse is fact. I don't spend that much time on this any more. I now actually have a life to attend to. For example, today I spent 10 hours walking around town and talking with my friends.

In terms of the covie armour on a human, who said I'm going to use covie armour? I'm making an adapted version that fits to a forerunner-standard torso.

Go model your biped. Everyone is waiting to see what you can do.

who cares ?

show us you can follow your project

No. You want to be pathetic trolls, so be it. I believe some of you have serious life problems, whereas I am happier than ever nowadays. You want progress? Give good crit for the concepts. You want updates? Be constructive. You want respect? Respect others. You want a life? Go out there and get one, buddy.

This is a hobby. I am not here to constantly update, especially when as soon as I post I get straight out negative responses.

Just an FYI, the Forerunner concepts are both confirmed designs, just adapted. I have only ever based art on that of a mandalorian once. Also, what the hell with the Power Rangers? Lol it just proves you're all sad enough to actually 'recognise' a similar suit. I thought it was bull since I first saw it, so have no idea what a power ranger has looked like since, what, 10 years ago? Ya fricken queers.
Edited by Petera275 on Jun 18, 2011 at 05:57 PM

I think our lives will go on if you don't make your Forerunner bipeds.

Nobody know's what the Forerunners looked like, and I intend on keeping that a mystery. Why do you think Bungie never showed them?
Edited by Sergeant 1337 on Jun 18, 2011 at 06:02 PM

You're ignoring the main point I am trying to make, which is that you don't have the fundamentals of drawing down yet, and that you won't get very far without them. The 5 minutes line IS an excuse. I used it a lot when I was just joining. I would show something, someone would say something bad about it, then I would immediately default to "well I only spent X amount of minutes on it, so it's not good." When, in fact, it was my skills that were making it that way, not the amount of time I spent on it. Here's a tip: You can spend days on a drawing, but it's not going to get much better if you don't know how to draw. The time spent on your work is not as big of a factor as you are making it out to be.

Also, it's great that you have a life, but that doesn't mean you can't work on this stuff as well. I managed to get more work done on my CNC mod during finals week than ever before.

If you find that you don't have time to draw something completely, just split up your drawing sessions. I find that working in sections helps me stay interested in the project. Plus, when I feel like I'm getting bored, I can just stop and pick it up later. Then next time I start working on it, I have a chance to review my work before I start again, which is helpful for identifying errors early on.

Dude, you're using covie armor. Face it. The covenant copied their tech from the forerunner, not their design style. The arms, shoulderpads, and torso are identical to the elite armor. Look at those images I posted. They're definitely not "classic" forerunner (halo 1 era) but they still look more forerunner than elite armor slapped on a human.

To give Halo 4 something to be unique about?

Forerunners were shown, by 343 Industries, Ensemble Studios and Bungie early concepts. There are even 3 books on the Forerunners in development.

if anyone wants the halo reach spartan model go here http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm%3Fpage=topic&topicID=37978

DONT FORGET THE ARMS!!! no arm should bend like that! it should be bent at a 130 degree angle.

Left arm is in an uncomfortably un-natural position. Move it up a little more along the Ar, jut the arm out a little left.

left arm isn't in sync with left shoulder.

kinda stretched cause of widescreen monitor

Work on those shaders son. I know there in sapien but still.



*note, this is the old rig and I didn't get around to putting the newest one I did
Once I get around to adding the fixed stuff into CE and adding the lights, I'll release it and this will be the only thing I will be releasing reach wise.
Edited by Spartan_094 on Jun 26, 2011 at 12:03 AM

Those shaders rock. Looks a little dry though and might need some grime, but not gloss.
Edited by DarkHalo003 on Jun 26, 2011 at 12:09 AM

This is why I'll be waiting for S094's. But wait, you've got more reach stuff?

i did mine just for fun, i havent had anything to rig in a good while. i might mess around with the shaders

I do, tried to use the metal one and it didn't look to good. I have all the spartan textures except maybe 2 or 3.

I got mine igame but my shaders are crap XD

looks like plastic

Yeah right and my name is Duke Nukem

I want to see you do better then seeing the files are out now.

nono
halo 3 and halo reach looks like plastic.
I have to say this looks pretty decent actually.

I just posted a thread on bnet with the picture of a reach spartan with the BR.
http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=62237770&viewreplies=true

You should have posted it in the Reach section and titled it, Reach Spartan with Battle Rifle.

Make them rage hard. And make sure you tell them who made it next time ;)