I loaded a10 in sapien, crash, debug, i got all needed tags, then it crashes again and this time the debu is filled with NO TAG SPACE... wot, does anyone know how to fix this??

Copy/paste the actual debug contents. From start of sapien to crash.

02.27.18 16:58:46 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
02.27.18 16:58:46 reference function: _write_to_error_file
02.27.18 16:58:46 reference address: 401b13
02.27.18 16:58:46 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
02.27.18 16:58:46 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
02.27.18 16:58:46 Sound card doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements. Disabling hardware option.
02.27.18 16:58:47 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
02.27.18 16:59:04 ERROR sound\characters\combat\melee: speech must be mono, 22kHz. (ask matt if you didn't do this by accident)
02.27.18 16:59:04 static element 0 for weapons\pistol\pistol is not valid
02.27.18 16:59:04 meter element 0 for weapons\pistol\pistol is not valid
02.27.18 16:59:16 the model 'weapons\odst_pistol\odst_pistol' and the animation graph 'weapons\pistol\pistol' don't match
02.27.18 16:59:16 the object 'weapons\odst_pistol\pistol' will not animate
02.27.18 16:59:16 the model 'weapons\odst_pistol\odst_pistol' and the collision model 'weapons\pistol\pistol' don't match (node counts don't match)
02.27.18 16:59:16 the object 'weapons\odst_pistol\pistol' will not be collidable
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\main_menu\multiplayer_type_select\server_settings\max_players_spinner'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\main_menu\multiplayer_type_select\server_settings\op_max_players'
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\main_menu\multiplayer_type_select\server_settings\op_server_ip'
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\main_menu\multiplayer_type_select\server_settings\server_settings_button_bar'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\main_menu\multiplayer_type_select\server_settings\server_settings_menu'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\main_menu\multiplayer_type_select\server_settings\server_settings_screen'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\main_menu\difficulty_select\difficulty_select_button_ok'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\main_menu\difficulty_select\difficulty_select_button_bar'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\main_menu\difficulty_select\difficulty_select_list'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\main_menu\difficulty_select\difficulty_select_list_screen'
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\main_menu\difficulty_select\difficulty_select_list'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\main_menu\difficulty_select\difficulty_select_list_screen'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\main_menu\settings_select\player_setup\player_profile_edit\color_edit\color_select_button_ok'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\main_menu\settings_select\player_setup\player_profile_edit\color_edit\color_select_button_bar'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\main_menu\settings_select\player_setup\player_profile_edit\color_edit\color_select_list_2'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\main_menu\settings_select\player_setup\player_profile_edit\color_edit\color_select_screen'
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\main_menu\settings_select\player_setup\player_profile_edit\color_edit\color_select_button_ok'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\main_menu\settings_select\player_setup\player_profile_edit\color_edit\color_select_button_bar'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\main_menu\settings_select\player_setup\player_profile_edit\color_edit\color_select_list_2'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\main_menu\settings_select\player_setup\player_profile_edit\color_edit\color_select_screen'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\main_menu\settings_select\player_setup\player_profile_edit\color_profile_item'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\main_menu\settings_select\player_setup\player_profile_edit\profile_edit_select_list'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\main_menu\settings_select\player_setup\player_profile_edit\player_profile_edit_screen'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\solo_game\pause_game\change_settings_button'
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\error\warning_saving_file_screen_ingame'
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\error\warning_saving_file_screen_ingame'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\solo_game\pause_game\quit_to_main_menu_button'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\solo_game\pause_game\pause_list'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\solo_game\pause_game\pause_game'
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\solo_game\pause_game\coop_pause_list'
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
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02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\main_menu\button_key_sm'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\solo_game\pause_game\pause_game_split_screen'
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
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02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\error\error_modal_fullscreen'
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\error\error_modal_halfscreen'
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\error\error_nonmodal_fullscreen'
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\error\error_nonmodal_halfscreen'
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
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02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\solo_game\player_help\player_help_screen_a10'
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
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02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\solo_game\player_help\player_help_screen_a30'
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
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02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\solo_game\player_help\player_help_screen_a50'
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
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02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\solo_game\player_help\player_help_screen_b30'
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
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02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\solo_game\player_help\player_help_screen_b40'
02.27.18 16:59:18 there are no more free tag slots.
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02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\solo_game\player_help\player_help_screen_c10'
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02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\solo_game\player_help\player_help_screen_c20'
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02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\solo_game\player_help\player_help_screen_c40'
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02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\solo_game\player_help\player_help_screen_d20'
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02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\solo_game\player_help\player_help_screen_d40'
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02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\error\error_abort_to_dashboard'
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02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\error\error_abort_to_dashboard_you_have_no_choice'
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02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_definition tag 'ui\shell\main_menu\loading_screen'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui_widget_collection tag 'ui\shell\solo'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load tag_collection tag 'ui\ui_tags_loaded_solo_scenario_type'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load ui tags tied to solo scenarios
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02.27.18 16:59:18 file_open('tags\lens flares\fluorescent glow-flicker.lens_flare') error 0x00000002 'The system cannot find the file specified. '
02.27.18 16:59:18 couldn't open lens_flare tag 'fluorescent glow-flicker.lens_flare'.
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02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load scenario_structure_bsp tag 'levels\a10\a10a'
02.27.18 16:59:18 failed to load structure bsp 'levels\a10\a10a'

How many tags have you added to the map? It appears the ODST pistol was the culprit, but again, how much content have you added?

by content do you mean in the scenario or in the tags. Ive only done dialouge changes and added a few new item collections. After scrolling through i decided to literally revert everything back to vanilla, yet it still crashed. ill get rid of those extra item collections if it will help


E: ive done literally nothing to that scenario, it always crashes before i can even look at things
Edited by Reshirom200 on Feb 27, 2018 at 08:06 PM

So if you extract it with Refinery, you get that error message when loading?

How many tags are inside your TAGS folder?

no not refinery, by the time i had gotten this i didnt have refinery.
i got a scenario pack ill rip it later and see the difference

HEK+ doesn't extract tags properly, that would've almost certainly been your problem.

i didnt even use hek+ i just went to the ce files stuff and got the scenarios


now that ithink about it i did have refinery but had no knowledge of ripping tags let alone scenarios

i was extremely ignorant to what refinery can do

e: i now just got rid of those tags, but no use ;_;



(dafuq is up with this scenario) E: i just ripped the scenario and found that i already have everything i need, but... it still frickin crashes
Edited by Reshirom200 on Feb 28, 2018 at 05:56 PM
Edited by Reshirom200 on Mar 1, 2018 at 04:48 PM

Recommend reinstalling HEK, and if applicable reinstalling OpenSauce HEK.

heres my new problem

03.01.18 17:20:40 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
03.01.18 17:20:40 reference function: _write_to_error_file
03.01.18 17:20:40 reference address: 401b13
03.01.18 17:20:40 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
03.01.18 17:20:40 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
03.01.18 17:20:41 Sound card doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements. Disabling hardware option.
03.01.18 17:20:41 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
03.01.18 17:20:41 tag data 'hs_syntax_data_definition' too large.
03.01.18 17:20:41 failed to load scenario tag 'levels\a10\a10'
03.01.18 17:20:41 need to get the following tags:
03.01.18 17:20:41
03.01.18 17:20:41 game_load() failed.

after i got all needed tags this started to appear

That is from using regular sapien on OpenSauce tags.

As soon as a tag is opened in any Open_Sauce HEK program, it is converted into an Open_Sauce format tag and can no longer be used with regular Guerilla or Sapien. This doesn't technically apply to every tag type, but it does to gbx_models, scenarios, scenario_structure_bsp and other vital tags.

So you either downloaded Open_Sauce tags, extracted Open_Sauce tags or regular tags in Open_Sauce format, or you've opened your regular tags using OS_guerilla or OS_sapien by mistake.

Either way, the only solution from here is to use OS_sapien and OS_guerilla going forward. Or find a non Open_Sauce variant of the tags you're trying to use.

im not trying to use any os tags, i am using non os halo 2 weapons and pm

i have no idea why it wants to say im using os stuff, im not...


E: i think im going to go to os stuff, my os is 4.0.0 is that ok i got as spv3 came out
Edited by Reshirom200 on Mar 2, 2018 at 07:55 AM

hs_syntax_data being too large is possible a sign of an OS tag. Script Syntax data is severely limited, OpenSauce expanded it. If you open an OpenSauce scenario in regular sapien or guerilla you'll get that exact error.

well, i know that i didnt open a os map, its probably a tag...

Now for the big question: what os is need (version) like i said i got mine when spv3 came out, i think thats sufficient??

Yup that's the one you want.

Ive looked everywhere on the web, i cannot find a single thing to help me.
Im guessing you guys know where to look cuz im lost, please help
Edited by Reshirom200 on Mar 3, 2018 at 04:46 PM

The same installer that installs OpenSauce v4 also installs the OS_HEK.

Find that program you installed with, UNINSTALL, then reinstall making sure to select the HEK as well

https://haloce3.com/downloads/applications/open-sauce-4-0/

This is os right not hek

OpenSauce_Halo1_CE_20150302.msi


That's what the program is called. It installs OS_v4, and ALSO installs/upgrades the OS_HEK.


There are installation options you need to select. Rerun the program, UNINSTALL, then try to reinstall and check through the settings.

Thanks, but one question, how do i do project_yellow stuff?? I only know how to save as .map

oh and aren't yelos bigger than just plain .maps??
Edited by Reshirom200 on Mar 5, 2018 at 07:41 PM

Using CMD, instead of

tool build-cache-file mombasa\scenarios\oldmombasa

You use

os_tool build-cache-file-ex "" 0 0 1 mombasa\scenarios\oldmombasa



The "" would contain a mod name ("SPV3"). In older builds of OS, you could create separate datamaps for your projects bitmaps/sounds, so if you had multiple maps sharing resources (SPV3) you could create a psuedo bitmaps.map sounds.map to lower mapfile size. In OSV4, that feature is broken and you can only have 1 set of datamaps at any time, instead of naming them by project.

the 0 0 and 1 are "Should I start datamaps from scratch?" "Should I add new data to the datamaps" and "Should I make an OS_enhanced .yelo file?"

The last bit is your scenario filepath.


That builds a .yelo file as opposed to a .map


As for the actual enhancements, look into shaders first. It's the easiest new thing to pick up with the most immediate result. Find a bumpmap generator and mess with those values and the specular values inside a .shader_model tag, you can make your weapons beautiful with a bit of playing around.



And no, .yelo's are not necessarily bigger than .maps, with the exception of a small number of additional that are mandatory for .yelo's to function. A map/yelo with the same content would be virtually identical in size.

so the "" is for the map dir?? the 0s and 1s what are they for (an example of what it should look like??)
like do blood gulch, that might go into my little brain
Edited by Reshirom200 on Mar 7, 2018 at 05:47 PM