There are several tags that all share the obje class; Bipeds, Vehicles, Scenery, Equipment, Weapons.

But they all have differences as well. For example; Scenery items won't sync locaton over a netcode whereas for vehicles will, Light Fixtures with collision will stop projectiles but not players (shield doors). Bipeds and Vehicles are units so they will sync whether or not they're alive (health itself doesn't sync, but alive/dead does).


Do you guys know any other ways that the engine treats these tag types differently?

The health of vehicles does not, but I was under the impression alive/dead does and that's how the host-determining scripts worked.

Yes! Device Machines also have the obje class. However I believe that you were slightly off there; the platforms can move vertically without falling off but characters do not stay attached when the platform moves horizontally. I could definitely be wrong about that however, I just remember seeing a post where someone tried to get a horizontal elevator to work by attaching the biped to the device machine.

Another tag using the obje class are Device Controls and Garbage. I'm curious if the engine has any peculiarity when it comes to the collision of garbage tags.

Helped mapping out collision tags, was one of Alt's main PC beta tester. I was actually delighted to go into 0.8.1 recently and see my name in the credits.

I learned how to write programs from Alt. Him and Modzy taught me RealBasic, which is what I still use now.

He actually even mentioned you in a video of his, calling you a good friend of his :)

https://youtu.be/5onHFKlJQ_Y?t=4m55s
Edited by lolslayer on May 9, 2017 at 04:49 PM

I know it's corny and all but that definitely made my day.

That program he mentioned, Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator, I recently fixed it maybe 2 years back. It moves all the spawn points in the map to a single location, so that you could relocate them easier with Sparkedit.

Ah the nostalgia feels.


I'll keep it simple and say I wouldn't be here if it weren't for Ally and Maniac1000.



<3

Got back home and found an old log of my AIM conversations I keep on an old PC I use as a file server, snipped a few interesting bits;

http://www.mediafire.com/file/jgxrtqm38lsefj3/altimit01.txt

http://www.mediafire.com/file/vurgyodqx4o4aqg/modzy.txt


Both conversations are from 2009;

First one is Alt teaching me MapMagic so I could make Illudium

Next one is the conversation between me and Modzy that led to Eternal Lightning, the first heavily leaked Map Deprotector I know of.

There used to be a really thriving community, not only in Custom Edition mapping but in mods for the PC version. Long gone are the days.



Eh: btw, Here's the source code to Eternal Lightning. With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility.

  dim f as folderitem
  
  dim br as binarystream
  
  f=getopenfolderitem ("")
  
  if f <> Nil then
    br=f.openasbinaryfile(true)
    br.littleEndian=true
    
    br.position=16
    dim indexoffset as int32
    indexoffset=br.readint32
    
    br.position=indexoffset
    
    Dim MapMagic As Int32 = br.ReadInt32 - 40 - IndexOffset
    
    br.Position = IndexOffset + 12
    
    dim TagCount as integer
    TagCount = br.ReadInt32
    
    
    dim taglist as int32
    
    taglist=indexoffset+40
    
    br.position=taglist
    
    br.write("rncs")
    
    br.position=taglist+16
    
    
    Dim ProtectedStringOffset as int32= br.readint32-mapmagic
    
    dim n as integer
    
    //Tee hee. Not my code. Sorry, I really didn't feel like re-writing all of this in a different way, and since you gave me the code it would've been silly to do everything my own 
    //getting the same results. Total credits to you for this app.
    N=0
    While N <> TagCount
      br.Position=IndexOffset+&h34+(N*&h20)
      Dim TagID As Int32 = br.ReadInt32
      Dim TagNameOffset As Int32 = br.ReadInt32-MapMagic
      
      If TagNameOffset = ProtectedStringOffset then
        br.Position=br.Position-4
        br.WriteInt32 br.Length+MapMagic
        br.Position=br.Length
        br.Write(Hex(TagID))
        br.WriteInt8 00
      end
      
      N=N+1
    wend
    
    br.Close
    
    MsgBox "The Gods Have Spoken"
    
    //end of your code.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
  end if
  

No Interest.

Eschaton is not one piece of code. It's dozens and dozens by different authors, all translated and strung together by Alt.

Some of these packages were Halo related, most were not. There were packages for the scrolling interface, packages for exporting/importing/converting JPEG/PNG files, others resizing and optimizing jpeg/png files on import. There were packages for rendering the BSP, etc. etc.

There's another part of the AIM log with Modzy where me and him discuss how hard deciphering Eschaton source code was. That was the 0.4 version of the source, he didn't even have rebuilding yet.

So yeah, No Interest.


But I wouldn't turn down a copy of the 0.8.1 Source Code.