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Hydrogen Joined: Dec 6, 2009 Wort Wort Wort...	Posted: Jun 16, 2014 05:28 AM Msg. 1 of 47 Hey guys, It has been quite a while since I have last posted here. Im wondering if there is any planned up coming game nights? I have really been wanting to play ce or halo in general lately. also any important things I have missed out on? I've been gone since spv3 a50 was released. edit: I may have goodies to release that never were released depends on what shape I left them in. Edited by Hydrogen on Jun 16, 2014 at 06:00 AM

PRPatxi Joined: Oct 30, 2010 Dennis, free me from this suffering	Posted: Jun 16, 2014 06:24 AM Msg. 2 of 47 Hey Hydrogen long time! News Flash: Well Duce returned./ Sphinxbio left but new latino mapping teams took his placed (sphinxbio at least gave credit, these people steal other peoples work, switch their names and folders and take it as theirs then protect the map with content from other people's./ Assasinschief got banned for good and never returned/ Barely any projects been worked on/ PRPatxi finally joined a mapping team/ Halo CE was rescued by Bungie, 1.10 update/ HAC2 enables reach chat and badges/ Only bad multiplayer maps are been release(exept for Bigass)./ I have old CMT gaming nights in my Youtube acc ur in them <3./ Some times we have Gaming nights, HaloCE3 makes them./ Sup man hows it been I was gonna PM you in Youtube the other dayz but I forgot!

Cheddars Joined: Oct 30, 2010 Rave to the Grave.	Posted: Jun 16, 2014 06:25 AM Msg. 3 of 47 Wow. Haven't seen you in a while. But then again I have barely been active on the forum and haven't touch the editing kit for ages. But I'm not sure if any game nights have been planned. I remember Altis having game nights with his beta's but that was ages ago though. EDIT: O.o I never knew paxti and I signed up on the same day. Edited by Cheddars on Jun 16, 2014 at 06:26 AM

PRPatxi Joined: Oct 30, 2010 Dennis, free me from this suffering	Posted: Jun 16, 2014 06:37 AM Msg. 4 of 47 Quote: --- Original message by: Cheddars EDIT: O.o I never knew paxti and I signed up on the same day. Edited by Cheddars on Jun 16, 2014 at 06:26 AM jajaja yup! =P

Spartan314 Joined: Aug 21, 2010 Former biped rigger & FP animator	Posted: Jun 16, 2014 06:39 AM Msg. 5 of 47 There was a CE3 gamenight like last month as the last one on v1.09. But seeing as 1.10 came along, more should be on their way. Maybe late July?

Hydrogen Joined: Dec 6, 2009 Wort Wort Wort...	Posted: Jun 16, 2014 06:40 AM Msg. 6 of 47 Quote: --- Original message by: PRPatxi Halo CE was rescued by Bungie, 1.10 update/ Sup man hows it been I was gonna PM you in Youtube the other dayz but I forgot! actually alot of articles said kornman saved halo pc/ce not bungie. (That man is truly a halo god) you can still pm on youtube? my youtube is thehydrogen32, best way to contact me is steam: Hydrogen32 Edited by Hydrogen on Jun 16, 2014 at 06:43 AM

PRPatxi Joined: Oct 30, 2010 Dennis, free me from this suffering	Posted: Jun 16, 2014 07:02 AM Msg. 7 of 47 I know ur youtube since ages ago.

Corvette19 Joined: Feb 27, 2007	Posted: Jun 16, 2014 09:34 AM Msg. 8 of 47 I'd love to have a gaming night soon. Something around 10-11 EST is good for me.

altis94 Joined: Oct 5, 2012 Join my Discord https://discord.gg/GDVEaRD	Posted: Jun 16, 2014 10:39 AM Msg. 9 of 47 Quote: --- Original message by: PRPatxi jajaja You mexican.

PRPatxi Joined: Oct 30, 2010 Dennis, free me from this suffering	Posted: Jun 16, 2014 10:58 AM Msg. 10 of 47 Quote: --- Original message by: The Doctor Quote: --- Original message by: altis94 Quote: --- Original message by: PRPatxi jajaja You mexican. Did you know... that in latin america and spain those who say "hahaha" are considered pretentious douchebags? Edited by The Doctor on Jun 16, 2014 at 10:56 AM I am not latinamerican nor I wish to be. I am full fledge North American citizen and European Spanish citizenship.

PRPatxi Joined: Oct 30, 2010 Dennis, free me from this suffering	Posted: Jun 16, 2014 11:09 AM Msg. 11 of 47 Quote: --- Original message by: The Doctor Quote: --- Original message by: PRPatxi Quote: --- Original message by: The Doctor Quote: --- Original message by: altis94 Quote: --- Original message by: PRPatxi jajaja You mexican. Did you know... that in latin america and spain those who say "hahaha" are considered pretentious douchebags? Edited by The Doctor on Jun 16, 2014 at 10:56 AM I am not latinamerican nor I wish to be. I am full fledge North American citizen and European Spanish citizenship. Double nationality? I thought I was the only one from Spain... Yup I have Spanish citizenship, my father is Spanish so I just went to the embassy and requested it. With it it will be easier to move to countries like France and England.

General_101 Joined: Dec 23, 2013 Apparently all I post is spam.	Posted: Jun 16, 2014 01:01 PM Msg. 12 of 47 Quote: --- Original message by: The Doctor Quote: --- Original message by: altis94 Quote: --- Original message by: PRPatxi jajaja You mexican. Did you know... that in latin america and spain those who say "hahaha" are considered pretentious douchebags? Edited by The Doctor on Jun 16, 2014 at 10:56 AM Now I live around a lot of Mexicans and am in fact, a Mexican born in the USA. I have yet to be called such a word and I do believe that is just your strange (possibly Murcia-haters) social group is more broken than Battlefield 4.

sos Joined: Aug 8, 2008 Getting my legal team, brb	Posted: Jun 16, 2014 01:52 PM Msg. 13 of 47 We should invite UniKraken to a gamenight, using a map featuring his ship. (I felt like I needed to jump on this joke while I can) Also, it's been awhile - how are you? Edited by sos on Jun 16, 2014 at 01:52 PM

MatthewDratt Joined: Sep 11, 2010 TAKEDOWN IS OUT MattDratt.com	Posted: Jun 16, 2014 02:05 PM Msg. 14 of 47 Gamenight! July 19th at 6:30pm EDT/10:30pm UTC

PopeAK49 Joined: Dec 18, 2013 I'm a living, breathing sentient tank!	Posted: Jun 16, 2014 05:49 PM Msg. 15 of 47 Quote: --- Original message by: MatthewDratt Gamenight! July 19th at 6:30pm EDT/10:30pm UTC Hoenn maps confirmed???

PRPatxi Joined: Oct 30, 2010 Dennis, free me from this suffering	Posted: Jun 16, 2014 05:50 PM Msg. 16 of 47 Quote: --- Original message by: PopeAK49 Quote: --- Original message by: MatthewDratt Gamenight! July 19th at 6:30pm EDT/10:30pm UTC Hoenn maps confirmed??? Pokemans guys.

BKTiel Joined: Mar 18, 2014 strong independent bird needs no cage	Posted: Jun 16, 2014 06:07 PM Msg. 17 of 47 fug I gotta work that night :< Just bought my fifth copy of Halo PC, too. Edited by BKTiel on Jun 16, 2014 at 06:08 PM

General_101 Joined: Dec 23, 2013 Apparently all I post is spam.	Posted: Jun 16, 2014 06:13 PM Msg. 18 of 47 Quote: --- Original message by: The Doctor Quote: --- Original message by: General_101 Quote: --- Original message by: The Doctor Quote: --- Original message by: altis94 Quote: --- Original message by: PRPatxi jajaja You mexican. Did you know... that in latin america and spain those who say "hahaha" are considered pretentious douchebags? Edited by The Doctor on Jun 16, 2014 at 10:56 AM Now I live around a lot of Mexicans and am in fact, a Mexican born in the USA. I have yet to be called such a word and I do believe that is just your strange (possibly Murcia-haters) social group is more broken than Battlefield 4. Huh... no. I live in Spain, if you ask anyone, no matter the "social group" what they think about that kind of people... well, most of them hate USA. In fact, I don't know why would anyone think USA has no haters around the world... you earn them lol. Lots of americans insult every single spanish speaking country by thinking they are all mexico, saying that latin american countries are 3rd world countries... USA is one of the most hated countries in the world, even the URSS had less enemies... Well I try to start a legitimate question here but all I get is this. Quote: Huh... no. I live in Spain, if you ask anyone, no matter the "social group" what they think about that kind of people... well, most of them hate USA. In fact, I don't know why would anyone think USA has no haters around the world... you earn them lol. That's a pretty broad statement you have there. Not only have you just stated that you know a large amount of people will hate USA because you say so. I fail to see why you would hate a group of people for something the Government does. Not the majority of people here think you are a bunch of filthy monkeys living in caves. Quote: Lots of americans insult every single spanish speaking country by thinking they are all mexico, saying that latin american countries are 3rd world countries... USA is one of the most hated countries in the world, even the URSS had less enemies... I have yet to meet any american that isn't on the internet insulting Mexicans for their problems and even then not having the knowledge to separate certain countries. Your statement about the most hated country is what makes me sick of people like you. You hate us because some inbred rednecks said you were poor. Not north Korea for having living conditions comparable to that of the holocaust. Not Brazil for spending outrages amounts of money on increasing the living conditions of their citizens and instead the world cup. Not Russia for looking away and let those that harm people for their sexuality get away with it. You see the problem you are creating here? You should also pick up a history book. The USSR had many enemies back in the old days and for good reasons. You threw an insult at a sarcastic comment then make an even more stupid post. br1ng 1n th3 h4t3

Hydrogen Joined: Dec 6, 2009 Wort Wort Wort...	Posted: Jun 16, 2014 07:47 PM Msg. 19 of 47 Quote: --- Original message by: sos We should invite UniKraken to a gamenight, using a map featuring his ship. (I felt like I needed to jump on this joke while I can) Also, it's been awhile - how are you? Edited by sos on Jun 16, 2014 at 01:52 PM wow youre still around, good. you?

sos Joined: Aug 8, 2008 Getting my legal team, brb	Posted: Jun 16, 2014 08:21 PM Msg. 20 of 47 I'm good too, it's good to know you're still around.

stunt_man Joined: Sep 22, 2009 GMYF - Now hosting proper MLG gametypes!	Posted: Jun 16, 2014 09:46 PM Msg. 21 of 47 Quote: --- Original message by: FrostyCyphre Quote: --- Original message by: The Doctor Did you know... that in latin america and spain those who say "hahaha" are considered pretentious douchebags? Edited by The Doctor on Jun 16, 2014 at 10:56 AM Did anyone ever told you that you're an awful poster? Yeah he's been notified

Corvette19 Joined: Feb 27, 2007	Posted: Jun 16, 2014 10:43 PM Msg. 22 of 47 Quote: --- Original message by: sos We should invite UniKraken to a gamenight, using a map featuring his ship. (I felt like I needed to jump on this joke while I can) Also, it's been awhile - how are you? Edited by sos on Jun 16, 2014 at 01:52 PM shhhh him and his legal team will persecute you

Cheddars Joined: Oct 30, 2010 Rave to the Grave.	Posted: Jun 16, 2014 11:29 PM Msg. 23 of 47 Quote: --- Original message by: Corvette19 Quote: --- Original message by: sos We should invite UniKraken to a gamenight, using a map featuring his ship. (I felt like I needed to jump on this joke while I can) Also, it's been awhile - how are you? Edited by sos on Jun 16, 2014 at 01:52 PM Omig. Corvette19. shhhh him and his legal team will persecute you

xnx Joined: Feb 12, 2013 h2 marine anims or i detonate the vest	Posted: Jun 17, 2014 08:43 AM Msg. 24 of 47 Quote: --- Original message by: The Doctor Let's not start this... we both know this will not end well... You have killed people, have earned enemies, a bad reputation... but you will not accept any fact, I have had this kind of discussion before and didn't end up well, so let's better just stop here before one of us earn a ban (more likely me), this is off-topic already... Edited by The Doctor on Jun 16, 2014 at 06:23 PM Except you're wrong, completely. None of the posters here (from the US) have actually ever killed someone. You need to learn to distance an individual person from their country and see the two as separate. Just because another American committed a horrible wrongdoing why should I be blamed for his actions simply because we live on the same slice of the world where everyone hangs up flags with 50 stars and red/white stripes?

BKTiel Joined: Mar 18, 2014 strong independent bird needs no cage	Posted: Jun 17, 2014 09:08 AM Msg. 25 of 47 It's funny how you say that when latino mappers still get treated like crap on the exact basis you bring out. I'd like to defend good ole 'murika here, but to be honest you (we) could really stand to get taken down a notch anyway.

stunt_man Joined: Sep 22, 2009 GMYF - Now hosting proper MLG gametypes!	Posted: Jun 17, 2014 09:50 AM Msg. 26 of 47 I never understood the hate towards latino mappers. I reckon it's plain old xenophobia. Oh, you say it's because of the content produced? Imagine if when we started using the HEK back in the day, that all these ripping tools were available. You really think we wouldn't have been producing the same trash? Oh, you say it's because they're stubborn? Don't listen to feedback? Pretty sure that's a generalization based on one latino mapper that didn't listen. Do you all know what a language barrier is? It indicates the difficulties faced when people who have no language in common attempt to communicate with each other. Imagine trying to learn how to make a map in good old Bungie style, without the official HEK tutorial? I think it's pretty safe to say that all the good BSP makers started with that tutorial - though basic, it teaches the necessary fundamentals that are needed in order to properly understand the process. I know that I, too, am generalizing - not everyone here has something against latino mappers. But those that do are bigoted scum IMO PS: The majority of the playerbase should be addressed with more humility. In 2006, any mapper had the hope that their map would be played by the majority of the playerbase. In 2014, has that changed? Simply because of the demographic of the majority? Edited by stunt_man on Jun 17, 2014 at 09:57 AM

PRPatxi Joined: Oct 30, 2010 Dennis, free me from this suffering	Posted: Jun 17, 2014 10:02 AM Msg. 27 of 47 Quote: --- Original message by: stunt_man I never understood the hate towards latino mappers. I reckon it's plain old xenophobia. Oh, you say it's because of the content produced? Imagine if when we started using the HEK back in the day, that all these ripping tools were available. You really think we wouldn't have been producing the same trash? Oh, you say it's because they're stubborn? Don't listen to feedback? Pretty sure that's a generalization based on one latino mapper that didn't listen. Do you all know what a language barrier is? It indicates the difficulties faced when people who have no language in common attempt to communicate with each other. Imagine trying to learn how to make a map in good old Bungie style, without the official HEK tutorial? I think it's pretty safe to say that all the good BSP makers started with that tutorial - though basic, it teaches the necessary fundamentals that are needed in order to properly understand the process. I know that I, too, am generalizing - not everyone here has something against latino mappers. But those that do are bigoted scum IMO PS: The majority of the playerbase should be addressed with more humility. In 2006, any mapper had the hope that their map would be played by the majority of the playerbase. In 2014, has that changed? Simply because of the demographic of the majority? Edited by stunt_man on Jun 17, 2014 at 09:57 AM Stop talking about things you don't know, people get pissed at RMT,TMM,AMT,UMT,Johnlex2,JDK SP and Danilo C because they steal other people's work switch the folders and names of tags and claim them as theirs. There have been many latinos like Zigadirasu that have made amazing work in bsp modeling, vehicle physics and animations. What you say its totally bias and its based on pure racism and stereotypes.

BKTiel Joined: Mar 18, 2014 strong independent bird needs no cage	Posted: Jun 17, 2014 10:13 AM Msg. 28 of 47 I feel like you didn't translate that post correctly.

stunt_man Joined: Sep 22, 2009 GMYF - Now hosting proper MLG gametypes!	Posted: Jun 17, 2014 10:38 AM Msg. 29 of 47 ^ Patxi you misunderstand me. Normally I would stop my post here, but I respect you for the efforts you make to help Spanish-speaking communities, so I will re-iterate my stance. Please re-read my post and you'll notice that any insults are directed towards the bigoted scum that can't accept the fact that not all mappers are from English-speaking nationalities. Much of that post was written from the perspective of the group I am targeting (bigoted scum). I know very well that there are teams that steal content, but that is irrelevant - there are people that steal content on both sides of any border. It's not relevant to this discussion. When I said 'trash' I was not generalizing the whole of the content produced, but simply the fraction which is, as you say: "those that steal other people's work switch the folders and names of tags and claim them as theirs."

PRPatxi Joined: Oct 30, 2010 Dennis, free me from this suffering	Posted: Jun 17, 2014 01:05 PM Msg. 30 of 47 En verdad yo solo les voy a decir algo y es que lo que hay lo hay y lo que no hay pues no lo hay. Es solo sentarte a pensar y olvidar las cosas pasadas entienden? Aveces nos pasan cosas en la vida pero lo importante es no mirar atr�s y romper las barreras que se nos interpongan en nuestro camino. Un d�a llegara en que todo lo bueno se nos vendr� y seremos felices. Nada son solo poniendo mi granito de arena a esta conversaci�n. Y recuerden que no dejen que nada los desanime y solo sigan pa'lante. ^.^

stunt_man Joined: Sep 22, 2009 GMYF - Now hosting proper MLG gametypes!	Posted: Jun 17, 2014 03:26 PM Msg. 31 of 47 Apology accepted :p

joe55 Joined: Dec 5, 2009 You are beyond helping, gtfo.	Posted: Jun 17, 2014 03:37 PM Msg. 32 of 47 Quote: --- Original message by: PRPatxi En verdad yo solo les voy a decir algo y es que lo que hay lo hay y lo que no hay pues no lo hay. Es solo sentarte a pensar y olvidar las cosas pasadas entienden? Aveces nos pasan cosas en la vida pero lo importante es no mirar atr�s y romper las barreras que se nos interpongan en nuestro camino. Un d�a llegara en que todo lo bueno se nos vendr� y seremos felices. Nada son solo poniendo mi granito de arena a esta conversaci�n. Y recuerden que no dejen que nada los desanime y solo sigan pa'lante. ^.^ I agree. I think

General_101 Joined: Dec 23, 2013 Apparently all I post is spam.	Posted: Jun 17, 2014 05:42 PM Msg. 33 of 47 Quote: --- Original message by: The Doctor Quote: --- Original message by: xnx Quote: --- Original message by: The Doctor Let's not start this... we both know this will not end well... You have killed people, have earned enemies, a bad reputation... but you will not accept any fact, I have had this kind of discussion before and didn't end up well, so let's better just stop here before one of us earn a ban (more likely me), this is off-topic already... Edited by The Doctor on Jun 16, 2014 at 06:23 PM Except you're wrong, completely. None of the posters here (from the US) have actually ever killed someone. You need to learn to distance an individual person from their country and see the two as separate. Just because another American committed a horrible wrongdoing why should I be blamed for his actions simply because we live on the same slice of the world where everyone hangs up flags with 50 stars and red/white stripes? By you I mean USA as a country. "We"(Spanish people) have killed thousands of native americans centuries ago. I know not everybody in the USA is a "bad" person (considering "bad" as a biased word depending on the point of view), but your country is full of corrupted politicians and over-patriotic, mad people and assasins who fought "in name of USA" and killed millions of innocent people who had nothing to do with their government, in their houses... Who are the real terrorists? nothing is really black or white, it's just grey from a non-involved point of view I really love the way you post in a strange way. You say we are not all so bad but you constantly talk like we are. You see what our government does and assume that's what all the country wants. I dare say that it is not as bad as you say it is with corrupt officials and even more so when compared to other countries. You sound like some kind of person who only gets his info from some website that was made so people could get aroused in the Murcia hate bandwagon. By your last statement I assume you mean the war in Iraq. Let me ask you this though. If your country was attack by terrorist and caused casualties of people you loved what would you do? Think real deep because it was a time of fear for most leaving people thinking when would they strike next. The war was not supposed to last this long according to Washington and people fell for it. Your statement of millions is also uniformed and blatant exaggeration to promote your incredibly retarded post. The word terrorist is subjective leaving it to a form one man's hero is another man's villain. No one wants war with Iraq anymore and the few who do are a bunch of idiots who would never proudly wear boots in a real war. I'm not going to say America is in the right on everything. America is like fat old man with a gun trying to relive the glory days of when it was a strong man with more power than it should have had. I'm also curious as to why you didn't want to "start anything". Can you not control yourself while actually providing a counter argument instead of saying, "lel murcia killz lol". Keep on acting like your country doesn't have blood on it's hands either. Take a good long look at what we have built while reading a history book.

General_101 Joined: Dec 23, 2013 Apparently all I post is spam.	Posted: Jun 17, 2014 07:48 PM Msg. 34 of 47 Quote: --- Original message by: The Doctor I don't hate all the americans, just the ones who think they are the best and can do whatever they want to. By my last statement I meant Hiroshima, Nagashaki, Vietnam and part of Iraq. My country is being attacked by terrorists who want independence from Spain (ETA), I've had casualties of people I loved. The only thing I can do, considering that I can't just go and kill them, is to hope and vote for people who give them what they deserve (torture and death, it's a shame that we don't have capital sentence here...) Every single war in the world was caused because people just can't accept other people. The governments use religion and fake attacks to create a fake purpose for the war. 9/11 is a perfect example of this, since there are no real clues that the attack was by Al-Qaeda. Don't get me wrong, but your government is as genocide as the Nazis... We had a similar attack on 3/11/2004, several bombs on various trains at rush hour. Guess what we did? avoid public transport for 1 year, then everything was back to normal and some years later the government imprisoned the terrorists (ETA). No more blood, no more conflict. Everybody remembered the terrorists as what they were. If the government attacked Euskadi (the region who wanted independence and home of ETA), some people would see the government as an oppresive force, and join the ETA's ideals. We lived a dictatorship for 40 years, and nobody dared to do such things because the punishment was death. It's like Germany, it's one of the safest countries in the world because the punishment is not worth to rob or kill anyone. There have been millions just in the WWII. I agree with that description. I don't want to start anything because this kind of arguments end up on people hating eachother because of their beliefs, and I think everyone can be happy if everybody act with respect to them. I don't act like my country doesn't have blood, have you read my comment? Quote: "We"(Spanish people) have killed thousands of native americans centuries ago. I don't hate americans, I hate some of the things they did in the past (and the present.....) I know you have improved the world in many ways but crimes are crimes and you can't just ignore them... Germans teach tolerance towards the jews in the classrooms, aswell as Spain teachs that the colonization of America wasn't exactly pacific and the Franco's regime is a taboo (something I hate, because people associate patriotism with fascism here...) While I understand what you are saying and we can see eye to eye on many things I do not agree with many things you say. Voting is an excellent way of getting legislation you want passed. Unfortunately though many Americans complain of no real change when the majority don't make the effort to vote and work on issues. However you are working under the assumption that 9/11 was an attack mandated by government officials. While I can neither confirm nor deny those claims I will say that there is simply not enough proof to say that is true. I have not done much research on the subject however so my word may not be enough. Your comment of comparing the US to Nazi Germany is also pretty insulting. The US does not attempt to wipe out races by the millions and even the numbers are not in your favor. Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and Iraq combined hardly scratch the millions you are after. As for Vietnam on top of the fact the north and south had been in combat for sometime the US hardly scratches a million casualties during these battles. World war 2 is the same with the fact that US did not enter till much later and there were many countries already fighting at the time making the US not responsible for the majority of deaths. This is basic history and stuff that you can learn just by googling it. Also by saying america wasn't pacific I assume you mean passive. This is true for pretty much anyone who has their eyes on the west during those times. You are holding grudges and are extremely affected by a minority that shouts over the internet. A lot of choices made were mistakes but the important thing is we learn from them. I can assure you the majority of the people do not want war for a long time. You are focusing your attention to less important issues and are stuck in a past you most likely did not take part in. Take what you read and do what you want with it but i'm still stuck that you are an uninformed poster with idiotic statements.

xnx Joined: Feb 12, 2013 h2 marine anims or i detonate the vest	Posted: Jun 17, 2014 08:59 PM Msg. 35 of 47 Quote: --- Original message by: The Doctor I don't hate all the americans, just the ones who think they are the best and can do whatever they want to. The only thing I can do, considering that I can't just go and kill [local terrorists], is to hope and vote for people who give them what they deserve (torture and death, it's a shame that we don't have capital sentence here...) Every single war in the world was caused because people just can't accept other people. The governments use religion and fake attacks to create a fake purpose for the war. 9/11 is a perfect example of this, since there are no real clues that the attack was by Al-Qaeda. I don't hate americans, I hate some of the things they did in the past (and the present.....) I know you have improved the world in many ways but crimes are crimes and you can't just ignore them... Here is everything wrong with your argument. First off, I am a human being and I can and very well should be able to do whatever the hell I want regardless of what country is on my passport. The only things stopping me are social inhibitions and American law which punishes certain acts. Also, the sense of pride in American culture is due to our wide diversity and strong sense of individuality. Next, saying 9/11 was an inside job basically nullifies your entire statement as I can assure you that neither of us are qualified enough to make such a bold affirmation regarding exactly what happened. And again, I repeat that you must learn to separate a citizen from his country and see the two as separate before you make any judgements. Just because some of the people from a past generation of "Americans" (ie just people) were involved in wars where people died on both sides this does not mean that I, or any Americans of my current generation, are responsible for their actions.

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