
Danger_zone_98
Joined: Nov 26, 2012
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Posted: Mar 21, 2014 09:22 PM
Msg. 1 of 29
I know it isn't really related to Halo CE but this is like the only place that I know where I can ask this:
I bought a Lenovo Y410P some time ago, and it runs SPv3 smoothly with everything on max. I was told that I can upgrade my RAM and my GPU, but I'm not sure if it's worth buying a better GPU for this laptop if it has an Intel Core i7-4700MQ. My question is: is my processor good enough to play something like Titanfall or BF4 on high settings if I upgrade the RAM and the GPU?
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ally
Joined: Jun 23, 2010
Aye Ready
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Posted: Mar 21, 2014 10:12 PM
Msg. 2 of 29
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Danger_zone_98
Joined: Nov 26, 2012
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Posted: Mar 21, 2014 11:04 PM
Msg. 3 of 29
Thanks! Better than I expected. And about the temp, I hope it won't be a big problem for me since I rarely play continuously, I usually take some breaks.
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Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007
@lucasgovatos
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Posted: Mar 21, 2014 11:09 PM
Msg. 4 of 29
I have the same laptop actually. Not sure if you got the same GPU and RAM as me (I have 8gb ram, GeForce GT755M) but yes, it can run Titanfall pretty decently I reckon. I can also play games like Skyrim on full settings.
If you want a word of advice though, if your looking for the most power possible, build a desktop. While that laptop is pretty nice (like i said, I can vouch for it), it won't last forever, nor be upgradable forever either. A better investment would be to start saving money to build a desktop.
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Danger_zone_98
Joined: Nov 26, 2012
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Posted: Mar 21, 2014 11:19 PM
Msg. 5 of 29
Quote: --- Original message by: Higuy If you want a word of advice though, if your looking for the most power possible, build a desktop. While that laptop is pretty nice (like i said, I can vouch for it), it won't last forever, nor be upgradable forever either. A better investment would be to start saving money to build a desktop. Yes, that's the plan... but I don't think I will be getting a good desktop very soon.
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MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010
TAKEDOWN IS OUT MattDratt.com
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Posted: Mar 21, 2014 11:27 PM
Msg. 6 of 29
Origin has a system in place to where if you buy a game and for whatever you can't play it, you can return it. (Titanfall is 50+gb download btw) "Full game digital downloads (PC/Mac) published by “Electronic Arts” (collectively Electronic Arts Inc. if you reside in the United States, Canada or Japan and EA Swiss Sarl if you reside in any other country) and purchased on the Origin Store (Origin.com and purchases within the Origin gaming application) may be eligible for a refund if we receive your request within the earlier of: (i) seven (7) days from the date of purchase, (ii) seven (7) days from the game’s release date if you pre-ordered/pre-purchased or (iii) twenty-four (24) hours after the first time the game is launched or run." https://www.origin.com/en-us/great-game-guarantee-terms
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Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007
@lucasgovatos
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Posted: Mar 21, 2014 11:32 PM
Msg. 7 of 29
While that's cool, it honestly sounds like a one way ticket for games to be pirated on origin (more so, SP games).
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MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010
TAKEDOWN IS OUT MattDratt.com
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Posted: Mar 21, 2014 11:49 PM
Msg. 8 of 29
EA will risk it..... for the player
also titanfall is online only
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greg079
Joined: Apr 1, 2013
channeling my inner april fool
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Posted: Mar 21, 2014 11:52 PM
Msg. 9 of 29
Quote: --- Original message by: Higuy I have the same laptop actually. Not sure if you got the same GPU and RAM as me (I have 8gb ram, GeForce GT755M) but yes, it can run Titanfall pretty decently I reckon. I can also play games like Skyrim on full settings.
If you want a word of advice though, if your looking for the most power possible, build a desktop. While that laptop is pretty nice (like i said, I can vouch for it), it won't last forever, nor be upgradable forever either. A better investment would be to start saving money to build a desktop. is that vanilla skyrim, or modded? i have 17gigs of hd textures and and ENB that cuts half my fps, game looks friggin' unbelievable though. there's definately a difference between maxed vanilla, and max with quality. and EA can screw off. they've had literally 2 sales in their history of existence, they don't care, they just want money. Edited by greg079 on Mar 21, 2014 at 11:53 PM
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MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010
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Posted: Mar 22, 2014 12:02 AM
Msg. 10 of 29
The EA is horrible bandwagon is probably in my top 2 worse bandwagons ever next to the Xbox One is horrible.
EA had mistakes in their games. The fact that I mentioned that they will refund a game within 24 hours of install is pretty freaking cool. ME3, DA2, BF4 and SC were all mistakes on EA's part no doubt. The fact that they're doing things like this is pretty sweet though. They are starting to turn around though; Titanfall is hella cool, the next Mass Effect has been in works for almost 2-3 years by now and Mirrors Edge is coming out "when it's ready". No more "lets announce a release date 2 years in advance so we have to rush it out immediately" crap. Edited by MatthewDratt on Mar 22, 2014 at 12:04 AM
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MEGA_VKNG
Joined: Dec 23, 2013
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Posted: Mar 22, 2014 12:20 AM
Msg. 11 of 29
I had an issue in BF4 on xbox one and because i was patient they gave me max rank...
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rcghalohell
Joined: Feb 25, 2009
I can jump?Weeeee (pop!) (No1 heard from it again)
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Posted: Mar 22, 2014 03:02 PM
Msg. 12 of 29
this just in, with the next cmt installment, you wont be able to run halo with anything less than a titan
I have a 4700mq that supports my 780m, I ran the beta and could max the settings on 900p with the intergrated, but the detailing was buggy, probably not meant for integrated, but it was sooooo easy on the gpu, this thing was definitely meant for console since the details aren't great Edited by rcghalohell on Mar 22, 2014 at 03:05 PM
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Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006
halonaminator's unfortunate idol
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Posted: Mar 22, 2014 07:23 PM
Msg. 13 of 29
The next CMT release should run a lot more smoothly than what we released last time. LODs do a lot.
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rcghalohell
Joined: Feb 25, 2009
I can jump?Weeeee (pop!) (No1 heard from it again)
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Posted: Mar 23, 2014 12:36 PM
Msg. 14 of 29
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 The next CMT release should run a lot more smoothly than what we released last time. LODs do a lot. lol suddenly becomes more demanding than metro 2033
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ChromeGames
Joined: Dec 9, 2013
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Posted: Mar 24, 2014 12:08 AM
Msg. 15 of 29
I don't recommend LAPTOPS FOR GAMING! And even more if you develop for CE. For gaming and development always use a Desktop PC, ¿Why? It doesn't matter if your laptop has an i7 and the desktop has i7 too, the desktop will perform faster than laptop and the life period of laptops is short and well laptops are more expensive than desktop PCs.
If you want to stay with your laptop, is ok but first you have to check if you can change your GPU which I doubt it because most laptop's GPU are "in-board" nowadays, that means the GPU is attached to the motherboard and is imposible to change it.
The processor is a important tool, but for gaming not at all, even a dual or quad core at 2.5GHZ can run next gen games without problems, you have to worry more about heavy-rendering tasks but this is not the case. If you don't have a good GPU in your laptop you won't be able to run next gen games with high settings which also I find useless to force your PC to play at high or ultra settings, I have a GTX 670 and i7 and play games in medium settings and they look wonderful. If you play next gen games at high settings with your laptop, dont ask why your computer burned out.
My recommendation: Build a Desktop PC.
If you don't want to, get a GPU with 1GB VRAM GDDR5 or UP.
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MEGA_VKNG
Joined: Dec 23, 2013
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Posted: Mar 24, 2014 12:11 AM
Msg. 16 of 29
better solution: have both also dont be a graphics nerd das no cool. im planning on getting anything between 650m or a 765m so i can keep working on stuff when i cant neccesarily go on my desktop to do them. thats why laptops exist and really you shouldnt pick a side. Edited by MEGASEAN2812 on Mar 24, 2014 at 12:15 AM
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Danger_zone_98
Joined: Nov 26, 2012
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Posted: Mar 24, 2014 08:12 AM
Msg. 17 of 29
Quote: --- Original message by: ChromeGames I don't recommend LAPTOPS FOR GAMING! And even more if you develop for CE. For gaming and development always use a Desktop PC, ¿Why? It doesn't matter if your laptop has an i7 and the desktop has i7 too, the desktop will perform faster than laptop and the life period of laptops is short and well laptops are more expensive than desktop PCs.
If you want to stay with your laptop, is ok but first you have to check if you can change your GPU which I doubt it because most laptop's GPU are "in-board" nowadays, that means the GPU is attached to the motherboard and is imposible to change it.
The processor is a important tool, but for gaming not at all, even a dual or quad core at 2.5GHZ can run next gen games without problems, you have to worry more about heavy-rendering tasks but this is not the case. If you don't have a good GPU in your laptop you won't be able to run next gen games with high settings which also I find useless to force your PC to play at high or ultra settings, I have a GTX 670 and i7 and play games in medium settings and they look wonderful. If you play next gen games at high settings with your laptop, dont ask why your computer burned out.
My recommendation: Build a Desktop PC.
If you don't want to, get a GPU with 1GB VRAM GDDR5 or UP. I wanna build a desktop, but I can't right now. Good thing I don't do anything related to render.
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rcghalohell
Joined: Feb 25, 2009
I can jump?Weeeee (pop!) (No1 heard from it again)
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Posted: Mar 24, 2014 08:32 AM
Msg. 18 of 29
I have a gaming laptop because im in college, and I need something inclass and for gaming on the go
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greg079
Joined: Apr 1, 2013
channeling my inner april fool
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Posted: Mar 24, 2014 10:51 AM
Msg. 19 of 29
alright guys, in case chrome didn't make it obvious, laptops aren't made for performance. it's to the point where "gaming laptop" is an oxymoron. chrome was also right that the gpu is usually the bottleneck in gaming, but i personally recommend at least 2gb of ddr5 unless you play at less than 720p. last thing, there are portable desktop computers, they still make a few travel focused cases today (and i should be getting an old Osborne case soon enough). also sean don't hate that my skyrim looks better than battlefield 4 Edited by greg079 on Mar 24, 2014 at 10:53 AM
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Danger_zone_98
Joined: Nov 26, 2012
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Posted: Mar 24, 2014 12:00 PM
Msg. 20 of 29
Quote: --- Original message by: greg079 chrome was also right that the gpu is usually the bottleneck in gaming, but i personally recommend at least 2gb of ddr5 unless you play at less than 720p. Edited by greg079 on Mar 24, 2014 at 10:53 AM My GPU has exactly 2GB DDR5.
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ChromeGames
Joined: Dec 9, 2013
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Posted: Mar 28, 2014 11:32 PM
Msg. 21 of 29
If you have a 2GB gddr5 you don't have to worry about running next gen games, the laptop you has was made for gaming. No need to buy a better GPU.
However I still recommend you to have a Desktop PC, use the desktop PC for hard perfomance like games in high settings or developing for games, if you want to work on some things while you're outside a cheap laptop with an i5 up to 2.5GHz with an integrated Intel HD graphics would be enough, you will work good on some graphic things but don't expect to make heavy things and play games in high settings, because Intel Integrated GPUs sucks.
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BKTiel
Joined: Mar 18, 2014
strong independent bird needs no cage
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Posted: Mar 28, 2014 11:53 PM
Msg. 22 of 29
Can we please abolish the notion that laptops and gaming are mutually exclusive? It's cool that you're trying to help and all, but consider that for some people mobile performance is more desirable than being chained to a desk. I know I have a gaming desktop that I barely use even though my laptop's way weaker, simply for the fact that you can go anywhere you want.
Anyway, like Higuy said the 755m is a pretty decent chip for what it is. Upgrading beyond that would definitely give you a boost (4700 is nothing to sniff at) but higher end GPUs are going to give you a poor bang for your buck with that setup. In the overall scheme of things it'd be better to get a new laptop down the line if you're looking to amp your game up.
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MEGA_VKNG
Joined: Dec 23, 2013
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Posted: Mar 29, 2014 12:02 AM
Msg. 23 of 29
My old gt 430 can max out titanfall. I wouldnt use titanfall for benchmarks. I know that doenst have anything to do with the last post but i thought i would put it out there.
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Super Flanker
Joined: Oct 5, 2012
The length of your life depends on my aim.
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Posted: Mar 29, 2014 10:41 AM
Msg. 24 of 29
AMD FX. Nothing more to be said.
Desktops are always better, motherboards can be heavily customized to include larger RAM slots. I even read recently that some dude in japan got his desktop to run to seperate intel i7 4700q processors together!
And do not fall for the age old trick, of seeing a high spec processor in a laptop. Chances are it has been fitted with economy, space and batterylife in mind. And thats what laptops are for.
The common misconception with desktops, is they are too big and too costly.
WRONG!
I bet my left set of ribs, you can build your own desktop setup to rival dreamworks for half the price of going to retail.
It's the unspoken truth, the conspiracies of conspiracies, that manufactures don't want you to know!
Damn I ran out of redbull......
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Danger_zone_98
Joined: Nov 26, 2012
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Posted: Mar 29, 2014 02:50 PM
Msg. 25 of 29
I have to confess that I started this thread because I was scared after getting 40-55 FPS in Minecraft with the GLSL Shaders mod. Maybe it's just that Minecraft and/or the mod are terribly optimized, right? or should i be really scared now? :(
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greg079
Joined: Apr 1, 2013
channeling my inner april fool
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Posted: Mar 29, 2014 03:13 PM
Msg. 26 of 29
i'm running around 90+ woth sonic ethers shaders, but i have a 7870 so...
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Danger_zone_98
Joined: Nov 26, 2012
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Posted: Mar 29, 2014 03:31 PM
Msg. 27 of 29
Quote: --- Original message by: greg079 i'm running around 90+ woth sonic ethers shaders, but i have a 7870 so... I don't have much knowledge about AMD and Radeon. Is that a good or bad thing for me?
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MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010
TAKEDOWN IS OUT MattDratt.com
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Posted: Mar 29, 2014 03:44 PM
Msg. 28 of 29
Quote: --- Original message by: Danger_zone_98Quote: --- Original message by: greg079 i'm running around 90+ woth sonic ethers shaders, but i have a 7870 so... I don't have much knowledge about AMD and Radeon. Is that a good or bad thing for me? Here is my understanding of it: ABCD A is the series. Like 1-8 ect BCD is how powerful it is So like I have a 5870. Its in the 5000 series. The higher BCD, the better it is in the series. If I would have gotten a 5950, it would have been more powerful, but more expensive.
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Danger_zone_98
Joined: Nov 26, 2012
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Posted: Mar 29, 2014 04:00 PM
Msg. 29 of 29
So it's definitely more powerful than mine.
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