>MattDratt is too naive and believed anything that Lodex is saying.
>MattDratt is too naive
>MattDratt

It's MatthewDratt

This is a great chance for you to actually present arguments, receive counter-arguments, and respond to those.
Lightmaps took AGES to run even at current settings, ages as in many days.

But Lestat => you never played Lumoria. Therefore your arguments are completely limited to complaining about screenshots.

Statistics of Lumoria: Totaling about 18k downloads so far for the final package (triple that over its entire lifetime), average score of 8.6 for the final package. Heeps of positive reviews in our release threads, moddb threads, etc...

I'll let the facts speak for themselves, rather than a drunk, angry man like you.

I know that you were doing weed tonight, and you got a friend to make a fake Lodeman account.
You also hate Higuy, as you recently said.

Therefore you are both not thinking rationally + biased.
You are not a credible man.

So, in conclusion.
Biased man stopped playing Lumoria, claiming it's terrible.
Versus.
Statistics.

Biased man, factual statistics.

You do the math, I recommend using a calculator in your current condition.
Edited by The Lodeman on Feb 16, 2013 at 05:48 AM

I honestly never liked it, Because it was too hyped up and failed to follow its hype.

Basically it's expectations were not met.

Great, so you were one of the few who rated the map a zero.
Compared to the 18k people who downloaded the full package and combined rated it 8.6!

Statistics my friend, I'm sure you know the concept of a Gauss curve. You just fall to the left side of it.
Just because you dislike it, doesn't mean it was bad or failed to meet it's "hype". Clearly, statistics show the success of it. And that is all that matters. Facts.

So then, despite the advertisement, people rated it very high.
I'm sure more than 10 people rated the map so to speak. And then there's the very positive reviews on here, on ModDB, on blogs...

DSali, you cannot back up your "arguments". You are a biased man who simply hates the map because you have beef with its creators. Let's not bs here, you hate me too. If more people felt the way you do, the map would have been rated down in a matching manner. Everyone has the power to vote.

I made a meme for you, as it fully befits you:



Having proven you are not a credible man, and a man who seeks to set up hatred towards people by means of trolling accounts, I shall now leave this thread. Have a good, hate-filled evening. Or morning, considering you probably didn't get any sleep so far.

Lodex, I'm pretty sure I gave Lumoria a 10/10 rating just because I didn't really care. A lot of others likely did the same.

Of course, I usually do care about ratings. But at the time, I'm pretty sure I was in an uncaring mood. :/

Anyway, Lumoria's a good campaign and is fun. There's still a ton of issues though.
Once I've got my new GPU and a new monitor, I'll send you a full review. Atm though, playing on a low res monitor that I'm starting to hate. Visuals are messed up on this thing :/

I'd much rather see a list of issues after you've fully played the campaign rather than nit-picking on smaller things that otherwise do not harm the overall composition of the map. I won't bother arguing though unless some of you can actually do it in a mature manner, otherwise I'm wasting my time when I could be doing much more productive things.

Then play the map, and show us a list.

Not to mention terrible reviews and statistics by the bulk of our players!!!!!!

WHAT IS LOVE
BABY DON'T HURT ME
DON'T HURT ME
NO MORE
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I did ctrl+f on the word "encounter" and its only mentioned three times in that entire wall of crap.
Therefore I can conclude even the great DSali found the encounters pretty great, or it'd have been mentioned alot more! Thanks for the great review kid.

I believe he said your scripting was...


Edited by Masters1337 on Feb 16, 2013 at 12:51 PM

That's not what the statistics say Masters, go crawl back into your little hole. I know you're partially behind this hate-campaign against us.

Yes I lead a chat room that conspires to hate you and your project.

or

Or!!!

OR!!!!!!

people are disgusted by your behavior and are taking it out on your project because we all know you get butthurt everytime someone has something critical to say.

Overall I liked lumoria, but there are some pretty glaring flaws that show a lack of understanding your team has about the game.

Masters, you started this whole drama in the first place.
You received a "hostile" response for this, and now you're trying to turn that around again.

You know what you did and how you acted. And now you're manipulating people again to support you.
You really are a despicable person, manipulating people into doing your work for you. Looking down upon people, as you illustrated just now again. Claming we "did not understand the game"...which is absolute nonsense.

I've barely had to do anything. You created this hate against you because you have a vile personality, not me.

That isn't to say I don't enjoy seeing you treated like this after having to put up with your crap for months on end.

Ah yes, you weren't constantly boasting about how amazing your work was. You also weren't ridiculing your own people at all in a very disrespectful way, but lie to them about it in their faces.

You also weren't acting hostile at all to me after we said "no" to your attempt to merge us, and make Lumoria a CMT project.

Oh but wait, that's the opposite of what happened. That and many more.
And I don't really care about being "treated" this way by you, Lestat, and the likes...as you guys are basically just scum. Treating others who don't do as you wish like scum, in a similar way to how you look down on us.

Thanks and try again.

I like trains.

The thing is, I won't waste my time reading a HUGE wall of text from a known biased guy.
I skimmed through it and coult tell you were very immature about the way you "crit" our project. That combined with bias is reason enough to just not waste our time and get "upset" over harsh crit from a scumbag.

I just want to point out that Bullet has never played Lumoria past when you encounter the drones in episode one

Uggh, this thread is so full of F***, What is wrong with you people!?

I feel like I should start posting my legendary walkthrough in here, but it's not finished and I lost a major portion of the video, so only episodes 1-3 are ready for editing. time to talk about encounters!

just about every encounter can be summarized into this:

-all AI are clumped together behind cover, making it hard to take them out from a distance and hard to rush them without taking a whole bunch of damage.
-there's just about no way to tackle encounters, other than sitting back and using pistols/long range weapon.
-the new shade vehicle has an OP turret that, due to it's accuracy, can kill you when you aren't behind the scant amount of cover around.
-when entering a new area, usually you are given no cover while all the covenant are stacked around boxes and structures.
-elites turn around randomly and for no reason, which ruins some stealth areas.
-the drone's hitboxes are messed up, and spawning a bunch of them on the final boss was an absolute jerk move.
-killing large groups of enemies feels more like a chore, as rushing in and actually having fun results in dying.
-if you have low health when entering a new area, good luck actually winning.
-in my videos, there is a scene where brandon takes a buttload of plasma to the face from well over 8 enemies for well over 5 seconds. fair?
-marine AI will not hesitate to shoot you from behind. brandon is the worst teammate.
-covenant AI will not hesitate to shoot eachother when shooting you. thank you, jackals, for handling the elites for me.
-there is one part where jackals are jumping down a stairstep cliff, and a turret on the other side of the 2 rocks that make up your only cover. you can only handle 1 of them while getting shot by the other.
-there are random moments where I have full shield and 1 health, and just die for no reason.
-in Lumoria_b, the part where you find the empfsgdhn generator, getting forced out of a vehicle is not fun. also, I killed brandon.
-in that same part, there are covenant everywhere in the structures, in turrets, behind cover, and generally in all angles possible. how do you handle this? like every other encounter; sit back and snipe(not fun btw)
-most encounters can be bypassed completely(albeit with some health lost), such as the scene described above.
-a bridge, a banshee, a wraith, and a couple elites with turrets? not fair at all, since the wraith is now apparently immune to everything except 8 rockets to the hull.
-the encounter above can be driven past. the door opens simply by running into it.
-who thought a bridge terminal in the middle of open space was a good idea?
-the encounter in the area above can be bypassed, seeing that you never go through there again.
-on legendary, I am forced to get a needler or plasma pistol to kill the sentinals as fast as possible, otherwise they melt the marines near instantly.
-have a massive structure with plenty of cover? let's make the ceiling glass and spawn a bunch of drones, so you have no where to take cover.

more to come, ""scarecrow". also, why did he introduce himself as echo whatthefrag instead of scarecrow?


so... you can't accept criticism?
Edited by master noob on Feb 16, 2013 at 01:37 PM

This is just getting sad tbh. I hope people get banned here, and I don't care if I'm one of them.

hurray for another generation of overhyped, good-looking cancelled stuff.
Edited by OrangeJuice on Feb 16, 2013 at 01:42 PM

If you can't be bothered to read through a huge wall of test from someone who's actually known to have in-depth knowledge of Halo modding and who certainly knows a lot more about... pretty much anything concerning Halo than you... then I guess I'm not sending you that review. It'd probably be pointless, since you refuse to read anything that shows problems with your child. :/

Yes, DSali knows more about Weed then L0d3man. But rest assure, if Sali actually knew more about mapping then everyone else we probably would have seen a decent custom map made by him by now...

I hate all of you, stop posting
Edited by Bobblehob on Feb 16, 2013 at 01:49 PM

Oh Jaz...you didn't read what you typed before posting did you.

websites stats for 2012. Pretty insane I thought I'd share them cause this thread made it all so perfect of a time too

Edited by MatthewDratt on Feb 16, 2013 at 01:51 PM

Complains no one makes decent custom maps.

[inset meme picture]

Models like it's still 2001

This is a compilation video of Masters, Lestat, Master Noob, and of course...good old Jaz.
http://gawker.com/5984348/two-minutes-of-nothing-but-goats-yelling-like-humans

Enjoy!

>Complains no one makes decent maps.
Specifically said Sali

>Inset meme picture
That's me

>Models like it's still 2001
Trying to make map look like Halo 1 style

___

Lodex wins. I'm out
Edited by MatthewDratt on Feb 16, 2013 at 01:57 PM