It's blatantly obvious to me and most like other people who have spent time pouring over models in Halo 3 that some of the assets they are using are obviously rips - not to mention some of the assets are also straight out of the Unreal Development Kit's default asset packs. Even some of the concept art posted on the website is directly Bungie's with their label on it.

In no way what so ever could this even be a game made a by a "small company" let alone even an "indie" company. Both of those said would never use ripped models like that and especially not use default assets to an engine, and they also most likely would not be making a game based off of Halo.

And Tiel, im sure that half of the people on this site could have made a more worthwhile trailer for an even worse mod on this website.
Edited by Higuy on Mar 17, 2012 at 07:59 AM

Higuy sums it up nicely.

Now, go install Myth II on your computer. Its a permanent contract...

DO IT! DO IT NOW!

On topic, if they had some of the more professional artists from this community, actually, if they were all professional artists from this community, then it would have a chance. A chance, mind you.

But it doesn't.[Epic Voice] Tis a long road to finishing a game, my son; a perilous journey, fraught with haters and trolls. Only the strong can survive.[/Epic Voice]

I like bangers 'n mash.

srry did you just say haters and trolls, well we know cos thas wot u guys are, cmon give em a chance there not assests from bungie or 343 there all there own work and there doing brilliantly, and u guys can think wot u like i know that there actualy making this and its gonna be good

I doubt this very much.

:)

God, these people are pretty unprofessional.

http://www.bvgstudios.net/t750-it-seems-some-people-don-t-think-this-game-exists-think-that-bvg-are-ripping-content

I can't stress enough that with the available media shown they are using ripped content and default UDK assets. There is no doubt about it. At the very least, they could have put together a decent trailer for the public than what was shown and used more of the default assets to make a much better scene.

People are complaing because 343 said customizable loadouts and armor affecting gameplay. That be plenty to ruin halo for A LOT of people.

It's enough to ruin it for me, it did so in Reach :p
Why can't developers keep things simple, simplicity is often so much better than poorly executed "complex" mechanisms.

Excuses, should have fixed it before release then.

Or were you?

can you at least tell what engine is being used?

That's bs lmfao.
CryEngine3 is fantastic and very well designed. Also has a smooth asset pipeline. Although Unity's is the easiest imo, but isn't as powerful as UDK or CE3.

On their official web site, it shows that they've done more than just that. They've actually replaced all the models (Or for the most part anyway) that they've ripped. They've showed different variants (RCs probably) of the SMG, and they've showed both an WIP and a finished version of a scarab model.
Also, they've shown some in game pictures as well, but they are blurred out (And untextured) for the most part, but if you focused on the pictures, then you can easily find out some of the things.

http://www.bvgstudios.net/t750-it-seems-some-people-don-t-think-this-game-exists-think-that-bvg-are-ripping-content#8924


ok guys, go to the link and tell then to their face that "they are ripping content". go on, i dare ya.

Someones panties are in a bunch, you really do define fanboy. Seriously though read what Higuy said.

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They were using ripped content in the beginning when they were making trailers that probably shouldn't have been made yet. Not very professional of them is it.
The hype that you're giving just gives a false impression on the game.

^

That.

Lesson Learned by those people: use your own assets and wait until the time is right to show your game. Don't be in a rush

happy days

a big fat meany head

I never saw that on the website. I would like a link to where it actually says that, I don't go on the 343 forums very much.
Anyway, the loadouts are fine. There should be playlists with and without loadouts, but still, loadouts can add some diversity to custom games.
As for armor affecting gameplay in Halo 4, that would definitely kill the game. The armor is used for looks, no more. Its like using an elite on swat (No headshots from behind, they're too hunched over)
Of course, once again, we don't know how the game will play. A modified Reach engine is still a modified engine, meaning that it will play differently than Reach. I liked the way Reach played, but still, you can't judge a game before its released. (except for games made by infinity ward. They're usually the same thing again and again).

OP, how old are you? maybe you should have looked around before posting and advertising on impulse, then when people post the truth, you refuse to believe it and start calling us mean people.
WE ARE ALL FOR INDIE GAME DEVELOPERS MAKING GAMES. However, they should show us some actual custom progess thats not just a screeny of a model.

Touche. The reason why so many people take their critisism as hate is because of the way they say it. They say things that are supposed to be helpful, but then it turns into more things like insults when the other reader reads it. There usually isn't too much positive, or a statement that motivates them to continue or to fix the problem. Instead, they usually just say, "Here's what you did wrong, fix it". Usually critisism doesn't work that way.
But I get your point. When I saw the trailer for the first time, I didn't even believe it would get very far. They were both terrible. Only when I went to the website, saw one of the better weekly updates, and saw how nice the devs actually were, I started to like it, and follow it. It all depends on your whole point of view, and how far you will actually go to aqquire information.

You just made me think of a guy pushing a cow into a tank of piranhas. I don't know why.

I can also see this game failing because they're taking an idea thats already copyrighted; so they can't make any profit on this game themselves (unless they get some sort of deal with 343i, which I highly doubt), and since this is a MMOFPS, they have to $$$ for their servers...?

I dont see this working tbh.

They can still Cease and Desist, which if that happens, all their work would be useless..

they are allowed to make it if they dont charge. Chances are they'll have to ask for donatons.

I know they're allowed to make it without charge

I was saying it isnt going to work because they have to PAY for their servers, and when they get 0$ off the game? How is it going to work?

Exactly.

i guess they'll find a way. ok, i guess this flame war is a bit calmer now, so lets settle it to this: just wait until the game comes out to see the outcomes. and remember what Dennis said last time before he locked the thread:

"Well now, that was interesting. A group of adolescents arguing over something that could have been solved by just either waiting for the proposed game to be finished or finishing the proposed game. But no, people have to try to show off something that is not completed in order to obtain some kind of recognition and others have to put it down to make themselves feel superior in some way. Even when I was that incredibly young and immaturely stupid I never would have thought to act that way. For crying out loud you make my eyes bleed.

Those of you that joined to engage in the flame fest will not (YET) be banned, those of you who continued to engage in it when others were trying to stop will be banned if you do that again and those of you who egged them on should and probably do know better which make you worse that the idiots arguing. Shame on you all.

This thread is locked."

so stop this war before Dennis comes and destroys us all.

How can WE stop this war when YOU'RE the one who started it?

Go stop it yourself. I'm out.

By not continuing the war he started maybe?

Regardless of who started a war, those who join in are still responsible.

It's like two political leaders firing nukes at each other and saying

"Hey, he started it! He fired a nuke at me first!".

Millions of people still died.

(Yes, I know there aren't even millions of people on Halomaps. But think of the bunnies!)

Well, the logical response if someone fires a nuke at nyou is to fire a nuke at them. They musty pay the price if their leader is such an idiot. Good thing australia has no nukes then.

But, anyway...

The starter of the flame war is to be blamed. True, some of us participated in the flaming, but others calmly pointed out why it would not be a succcess, and why ti wans't good.

The problem with that strategy is the fact that once the second nuke is fired, and the guys who fired the first nuke didn't learn, and so they fired a third back. It turns into mutually assured destruction.
The end result is something like this.
http://www.addictinggames.com/action-games/mad.jsp
Note that this is a flash game. It is really fun, all you have to do is wait for that stupid ad to end...

Back on topic, the same thing works with a flame war. The more insulting things said, the more insulting things will be replied.

Off topic: Play that game though. It is really fun.

FYI, i did not intend to start a war. i just wanted to make halo GoC more realised, but i failed to see the previous topic that had been locked, and i did not know that so many people hated it here. plus, idk how to lock topics, lol.

The problem was that you started the topic with the intention of challenging the members of the forum here as to their opinions. You somehow expected them to agree with you, when everything that has been shown so far is of a low quality.

well we are going to have to see how good the game is going to be when the game is released, but i see your point. i guess it would of been better to "advertise" this game when a better trailer comes out, or when the actual game comes out, instead of just a (admittedly) crappy trailer. but they should look at the updates, there are much better content to be found, such as the halo GoC music previews, and (you guys might want to look at this) WIP models.

but anyway, i guess this war has come to an end, please, so more abuse, or Dennis will come and kill us all. might leave this open for future comments (more updates coming soon on the game, so we will see what they have in store), so there could be more discussion on the game. but please. make love, not war....

ps. @Bobblehob yes, those last words was for everyone.
Edited by camycamera on Mar 20, 2012 at 12:56 AM
Edited by camycamera on Mar 20, 2012 at 12:57 AM