
darknesssamurai
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
It started with a Mew card and now I have all this
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Posted: Dec 27, 2011 03:35 PM
Msg. 1 of 33
Hello Halo friends, fans, onlookers and CovenantI'm Darknesssamurai, creator of the Tachikoma maps, here to present Plasma Duality. A series of maps focusing on what the name implies: duals.This idea came from Halo 2 dual weilding, my favorite being dual brute and plasma rifle, on Midship. I aim to recreate and improve that experience in HCE for us all. FIRST - Map
Plasma Duality: Last Hangar
Last Hangar is for an all out plasma dual war. Cover is your friend. Each weapon is all its own, master which is best for your play type.
Offensive and Defense have been substantially balanced in my view. Learning all the possible paths around the map, both offensive and defensive, you will excel. 4 - 16 Players is best, excellent in both Slayer, CTF and Team play.
SECOND - Player
You are Council Guard Elites, high generals among both the Covernant Honor Guard and Elite Council, legends of both fields. I take pride in variancy, there is far more diversity than these, but this gives you an accurate idea of what to expect.
THIRD - Weapons Now for the exciting part, your tools of destruction. As part of the Council Guard Elite, these are exclusive to members alone. All of them have been overhauled and tweaked for smooth dual performance, soon to be favorites of plasma lovers and spec-ops Elite hopefuls.Dual Plasma RiflesHolding an even average balance between power, speed, damage and recover time, these will get the job done and are a reliable standard choice in war. Brute Dual Plasma RiflesSpecialized for speed, and what they lack in power and other areas, they make up for with quick kills and instant damage. Dark Dual Plasma Rifles The sheer power of dark plasma is mastered by only the lucky few. Built with power and force, it's mass overheat is nothing when only its kill rate matters most in war. Dual Plasma PistolsOvercharge is a force to be reckoned with. Engineered for its favored potential in battle, it's primary fire is second-rate, but it's secondary charges are first-class in the right hands. Dark Dual Plasma PistolsCombining the might of dark dual rifles and the quick ease of use of plasma pistols, they are not to be taken lightly. Dark plasma does not charge well but its primary far outranks the might of some powerful single weapons.
LASTLY - More to come
Midship - Midship is a part of the inside of the Covenant ship, the Pious Inquisitor.
Where the idea spawned. One of the best Halo 2 maps for plasma dual wielding. Only brute and plasma rifles on, double shields, slayer, 50 kill goal and 16 players.
Carousel and Chill Out - small, mid-sized and open for massacre.
Combined with these plasma and close-quater combat, chaos and plasma flies every second.
These maps force the players to shoot now and ask questions later, while managing cover as best as they can, both good avenues of game play.
Damnation - Provides vertical and horizontal gameplay. Its structured environment pushes the player to rely on their position, area layout, escape roots and how to best utilize weapon types for its non-linear design.
CONCLUSION - Community
I'm open to critique and suggestion, and want your opinions. I didn't create a WIP for my Tachikoma project but this time around the community is open on this one. ---------------------------------Edited by darknesssamurai on Jan 2, 2012 at 08:28 PM
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Spiral
Joined: Apr 3, 2011
I hope i'm out of the way
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Posted: Dec 27, 2011 04:11 PM
Msg. 2 of 33
wow, looks cool!
(use the other version of mid ship) Edited by spiral on Dec 27, 2011 at 04:13 PM
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Dumb AI
Joined: Sep 18, 2011
Dead.
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Posted: Dec 27, 2011 04:25 PM
Msg. 3 of 33
Delicious variety!Are you planning to make dual human weapons?
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Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007
@lucasgovatos
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Posted: Dec 27, 2011 04:29 PM
Msg. 4 of 33
I want those elite animations and plasma rifle weapons. I tried doing this in Lumoria multiple times and failed, even tried getting people who had done it before and still couldn't get anywhere with it.
Either way though, im loving it. Dual wielding is always real cool.
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SlappyThePirate
Joined: Aug 24, 2009
You are irritating, I'll release nothing
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Posted: Dec 27, 2011 04:58 PM
Msg. 5 of 33
Duals! Never heard of the dark weapons before, the color change is interesting.
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Nickster5000
Joined: Dec 11, 2010
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Posted: Dec 27, 2011 05:13 PM
Msg. 6 of 33
Quote: --- Original message by: darknesssamurai Hello Halo friends, fans, onlookers and Convenant I, "Convenant" are excited for this! Btw, its spelled covenant. Just sayin'.Edited by ODST_Nick on Dec 27, 2011 at 05:13 PM
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Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010
[Insert sarcastic comment here]
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Posted: Dec 27, 2011 05:19 PM
Msg. 7 of 33
Quote: --- Original message by: ODST_NickQuote: --- Original message by: darknesssamurai Hello Halo friends, fans, onlookers and Convenant I, "Convenant" are excited for this! Btw, its spelled covenant. Just sayin'.Edited by ODST_Nick on Dec 27, 2011 at 05:13 PM Grammar Nazi. You don't even have perfect grammar yourself. Just sayin'. Anyway... nice map, you did spell Covenant wrong though, but that doesn't matter, because you've done a brilliant job with the duality features of this mod. I love how you've made different types of plasma rifles with different special features. The dark plasma rifles look especially intriguing...
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TauSigmaNova
Joined: Jan 31, 2011
If love is blind, I guess I'll buy myself a cane
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Posted: Dec 27, 2011 06:03 PM
Msg. 8 of 33
OOOOHHHH
Me likey. The idea itself is most likely the best part, and if done the way i think it will be, the weapon balance will be amazing.
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LegionofShadows
Joined: Jul 10, 2011
The Red Pill is strong in this one.
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Posted: Dec 27, 2011 06:04 PM
Msg. 9 of 33
Looks extra niec, even with just stock Plasma Rifles and Pistols having their color changed. Amazing.
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darknesssamurai
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
It started with a Mew card and now I have all this
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Posted: Dec 28, 2011 01:16 AM
Msg. 10 of 33
I can understand the frustration, it took a large amount of work to reach their current state. But now we all know its possible, and the next step is Tri-wielding. Edited by darknesssamurai on Dec 28, 2011 at 11:00 AM
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Echo77
Joined: Jul 20, 2010
Humble thyself and hold thy tongue.
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Posted: Dec 28, 2011 01:49 AM
Msg. 11 of 33
Dual carbines pl0x? Dual Needlers?
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Slayer117
Joined: Oct 3, 2008
Host of CE3 2010-forever!
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Posted: Dec 28, 2011 02:38 AM
Msg. 12 of 33
Dual Needlers Would be like Halo 2 and would make me nostalgia so much.
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JLtheking
Joined: Mar 4, 2009
imma
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Posted: Dec 28, 2011 04:56 AM
Msg. 13 of 33
Fantastic idea! This seems to be a very interesting concept. One problem though, is the lack of weapon diversity. Yes, you have gotten different variants of rifles and pistols, but thats what they are, rifles and pistols.
I'm gonna agree with some of the above suggestions for you to put in some more type of weapons, like dual needlers, maybe even dual carbines or beam rifles XD
Regardless, this is a very promising approach to weapons and I look forward to it.
Oh, oh, oh! Put in DUAL ENERGY SWORDS :) It can be just be a cheesy one hit melee but IT LOOKS COOL SO WHO CARES Edited by JLtheking on Dec 28, 2011 at 04:57 AM
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Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010
[Insert sarcastic comment here]
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Posted: Dec 28, 2011 06:45 AM
Msg. 14 of 33
No other weapons would work in duality in my opinion. Sure, dual SMGs or rocket launchers would be awesome. But they would be slaughtered by the fact that plasma pistols don't need to be manually reloaded very much. They can just be overcharged, then they cool down and you can use them again. Then if you run out of batteries, you can just grab another one and keep moving. On a covenant ship, there would be a lot more plasma pistols available than SMGs.
And it would be a stupid idea to have 2 needlers at once. You'd have to try to control homing needles and reload with no hands free whatsoever. Doesn't sound easy to me.
Anyway, just my opinion. Take it or leave it.
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kev3344
Joined: Aug 8, 2008
IMAAA FIRING MAAA LAZAAA!!!!
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Posted: Dec 28, 2011 09:18 AM
Msg. 15 of 33
This project is a nice idea!
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darknesssamurai
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
It started with a Mew card and now I have all this
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Posted: Dec 28, 2011 11:14 AM
Msg. 16 of 33
Thank you all for active suggestion, well appreciated.
That would be a good addition for us all sure, however the process of creating duals, animating, fp, 3p, firing quality and smooth function would take a significant amount of work pending what you're aiming for.
Dual rocket launchers and carbines might not be the best because of the constant reload, plus how would those reload animations work since you need the other hand.
These plasma weapons don't need the other hand luckily.
Ha, I'd love to see someone reload two rocket launchers in the middle of battle, easy kill. Edited by darknesssamurai on Dec 28, 2011 at 11:36 AM
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TauSigmaNova
Joined: Jan 31, 2011
If love is blind, I guess I'll buy myself a cane
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Posted: Dec 28, 2011 11:18 AM
Msg. 17 of 33
Same thing for reloading any other duel wielding weapon.
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Nickster5000
Joined: Dec 11, 2010
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Posted: Dec 28, 2011 09:05 PM
Msg. 18 of 33
Quote: --- Original message by: qwertyuiop15 Dual Fuel Rod Guns plz FTFY
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Skyancez3o4
Joined: Apr 6, 2010
I miss CE
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Posted: Dec 29, 2011 01:25 AM
Msg. 19 of 33
Quote: --- Original message by: qwertyuiop15 How the hell do you even reload while dual wielding? :\ Well, in real life, I assume it's modern day pistols. You release the empty mag by flicking downwards hard while pressing the mag release button and then you take your loaded mag and toss it up in front of you. Then while in mid air, you jam the gun down onto the mag so it snaps into the gun and there fore, reload. :) But with rocket launchers... oh mah dear gawd... good luck with that
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Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010
[Insert sarcastic comment here]
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Posted: Dec 29, 2011 05:27 AM
Msg. 20 of 33
Quote: --- Original message by: Skyancez3o4Quote: --- Original message by: qwertyuiop15 How the hell do you even reload while dual wielding? :\ Well, in real life, I assume it's modern day pistols. You release the empty mag by flicking downwards hard while pressing the mag release button and then you take your loaded mag and toss it up in front of you. Then while in mid air, you jam the gun down onto the mag so it snaps into the gun and there fore, reload. :) But with rocket launchers... oh mah dear gawd... good luck with that I want to see you try that now. And then try it with a MC-sized suit on. And then try it with iron armor on just for the lols.
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Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010
[Insert sarcastic comment here]
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Posted: Dec 29, 2011 05:45 AM
Msg. 21 of 33
Quote: --- Original message by: mastur cheef I don't think it would be possible then to actual reload succesfully everytime when dual-wielding, what if you miss? I completely agree with this. If you miss, it's game over. Dual-wielding with tricky-to-reload weapons is a stupid idea. Self-reloading weapons are the future!
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TM_updates
Joined: Aug 31, 2011
Superior to you, Superior Musclez near Brussels
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Posted: Dec 29, 2011 05:47 AM
Msg. 22 of 33
I can haz 3p anims?
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Slayer117
Joined: Oct 3, 2008
Host of CE3 2010-forever!
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Posted: Dec 29, 2011 02:10 PM
Msg. 23 of 33
Heres a idea since you like dual wielding, I had this weapon Tag idea a long time ago:
Make the left hand hold a shield which you can block attacks with and the right hold a sword. Kind of a future Knight in Elite Armor.
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Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010
[Insert sarcastic comment here]
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Posted: Dec 29, 2011 02:14 PM
Msg. 24 of 33
Quote: --- Original message by: Slayer117 Heres a idea since you like dual wielding, I had this weapon Tag idea a long time ago:
Make the left hand hold a shield which you can block attacks with and the right hold a sword. Kind of a future Knight in Elite Armor. Would that even be possible? Halo's not had portable shields yet, so are the scripts there/possible?
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Slayer117
Joined: Oct 3, 2008
Host of CE3 2010-forever!
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Posted: Dec 29, 2011 02:37 PM
Msg. 25 of 33
Yes it's possible to deflect all damage taken by blocking with the shield. it would just be the jackal shield with an energy sword.
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Echo77
Joined: Jul 20, 2010
Humble thyself and hold thy tongue.
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Posted: Dec 29, 2011 05:40 PM
Msg. 26 of 33
Quote: --- Original message by: Slayer117 Yes it's possible to deflect all damage taken by blocking with the shield. it would just be the jackal shield with an energy sword. I've got a Jackal shield tag that deflects projectiles, but you still take damage.
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Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010
[Insert sarcastic comment here]
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Posted: Dec 29, 2011 06:26 PM
Msg. 27 of 33
Quote: --- Original message by: Echo77Quote: --- Original message by: Slayer117 Yes it's possible to deflect all damage taken by blocking with the shield. it would just be the jackal shield with an energy sword. I've got a Jackal shield tag that deflects projectiles, but you still take damage. What's the point in that?
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Dumb AI
Joined: Sep 18, 2011
Dead.
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Posted: Dec 30, 2011 12:55 AM
Msg. 28 of 33
So that projectile will also make someone go with you to the grave.
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olly12345
Joined: Jul 30, 2008
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Posted: Dec 30, 2011 09:22 AM
Msg. 29 of 33
I like this a lot! The idea is great, simple, and if you can pull it off, brilliant. With the plasma pistols, i'm guessing its primary fires 2 bolts with a charge up? With the rifles, do you use primary and secondary to fire?
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ODST72
Joined: Jul 19, 2010
Where's the rest of your platoon?
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Posted: Jan 1, 2012 01:24 PM
Msg. 30 of 33
Quote: --- Original message by: Slayer117 Heres a idea since you like dual wielding, I had this weapon Tag idea a long time ago:
Make the left hand hold a shield which you can block attacks with and the right hold a sword. Kind of a future Knight in Elite Armor. So something like this 
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Spartan314
Joined: Aug 21, 2010
Former biped rigger & FP animator
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Posted: Jan 1, 2012 01:40 PM
Msg. 31 of 33
Lumoria Bossfight anyone?
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XlzQwerty1
Joined: Aug 6, 2009
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Posted: Jan 1, 2012 01:43 PM
Msg. 32 of 33
Quote: --- Original message by: Spartan314 Lumoria Bossfight anyone? gg no re
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darknesssamurai
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
It started with a Mew card and now I have all this
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Posted: Jan 2, 2012 01:02 PM
Msg. 33 of 33
Plasma Duality is close to ready for release
Includes five maps featuring plasma dual weapons: Capital Ship Hanger, Halo 2 Midship Chillout, Damnation and Carousel
See previous post for weapons and the other Elites that will be used:
Edited by darknesssamurai on Jan 2, 2012 at 02:03 PM
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