I made a map, now I want to modify a map. I got HEK and HEK Plus. I try to extract Bloodgulch and RPG_beta_6.2. When I tryed that it stopped at the Cyborg part. I extracted the UI and when I try to use Sapein, It crashes. Anyone Help me?

Ummm. More infomation about ur problems. Look i ur debug in ur halo ce diretcory

Just to make it clearer....

in the folder you installed HEK, find debug.txt. Copy and paste the last paragraph of the file in your next post.

if there seems to be nothing and you are running vista/7, run sapien/guerrila as administrator and do the same stuff you said, and when sapien closes, copy and paste the last paragraph of debug.txt here.

I'm running XP Home

debug.txt:

11.20.10 10:13:57 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
11.20.10 10:13:57 reference function: _write_to_error_file
11.20.10 10:13:57 reference address: 401b13
11.20.10 10:13:57 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
11.20.10 10:13:58 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
11.20.10 10:13:58 file_open('tags\ui\editor\markers\normal\normal.gbxmodel') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
11.20.10 10:13:58 couldn't open gbxmodel tag 'normal.gbxmodel'.
11.20.10 10:13:58 EAX: 0x0012F2EC
11.20.10 10:13:58 EBX: 0x706C6101
11.20.10 10:13:58 ECX: 0x0012F35D
11.20.10 10:13:58 EDX: 0x0012F324
11.20.10 10:13:58 EDI: 0x0012F2D8
11.20.10 10:13:58 ESI: 0x00000000
11.20.10 10:13:58 EBP: 0x0012F1B0
11.20.10 10:13:58 ESP: 0x0012F1A0
11.20.10 10:13:58 EIP: 0x7C90E514, C3 8D A4 24 ?????
11.20.10 10:13:58 EXCEPTION halt in .\editor_renderer.cpp,#189: marker.model_index!=NONE

it seems like a tag is missing?!

This usually has to do with a corrupted gbxmodel or model_animations tag. Look for anything you may have recently extracted or implemented. Then get a better version of it or use something else.

then how do I fix it?

get rid of it then re-extract it

what do I get rid of? and when I re-extract it I get the same error.

Don't re-extract in HEK+. It likes to corrupt tags, and will not work on that tag no matter how many times you do it. You must get a clean version of that tag from someone else, or maybe from another map.

can you tell me a map where you can succesfully extract from HEK plus and not crash Sapein?

There are many maps like the multiplayer ones and single player ones if Halo 1 is installed

It's not HEK+'s issue; you're missing the editor marker for Sapien. You cannot extract this from ANY map. The only way to obtain it is to have someone send it to you or reinstall HEK.