Fair enough. Didn't realize that it hadn't just started here, and it does seem a little different there. I was just trying to start a semi-intelligent conversation about it, didn't mean to cause such a fuss.



What? Do you have any sense of tact? Do you even function in society? Where do you get off talking about people like that? Go back to where you came from, we don't need this around here.



While it does solve the issues, it needs an acronym, like the BFG in Doom/Quake. Because that's not family friendly.

Sarcasim *facepalm*

I like and agree with this Yankee.

FMAC - Forum Monkey Accelerator Cannon?
BSPC - Burlap Sack Pinata Cannon?

/sarcasm

I like it and hope your change your mind about releasing it in spite of the drama.

lol, thank you for that :D. and about the dl link, don't expect it real soon, i'll put it back up in a few weeks, when my falcon is done too. (will likely be MUCH better)

Technically it is a railgun, but that's just a description. Just having rails makes it so. So, just accept it's a railgun, but nobody's preventing you from calling it a MAC or a coilgun, you have freedom of opinion.

Once again, praise Bungie. I just hope 343 Studios will do better.

The guy who made cola didn't intend on making it the great invention that is cola. But nevertheless, it was cola.
Edited by PX173 on Nov 11, 2010 at 04:18 AM

Okay wait, if i put t2o opposite rails on the barrel of a gun, it becomes a rail-gun? your logic makes no since my friend. just because it uses a magnetic field, and has rails, doesn't make it a rail-gun, lol. Next your going to tell me that a guass hog has a rail-gun not a coil-gun? Please give me an argument that makes since :)
Edited by Amazingcuziam on Nov 11, 2010 at 07:01 AM

magnetic accelerator is the most dorky and hard to say name ever. im calling it a cannon or a rail gun.
First thing i thought when i first say that was rail gun. im calling it a rail gun, get over it

okay, you see i dont have a problem with that, as long as your not trying to prove to me that its a rail-gun, when it isn't. Thats what was bothering me. Good try though.

Who gives a rat's ass what it's called?

That was the point a few of us were trying to make. It's either technically a railgun, or a physically impossible electromagnetic cannon. The naming issue falls on Bungie/whoever slept through their physics class.

Either way, its a mass driver/mass accelerator/magnetic accelerator/linear motor.... need I go on?

It actually, is NOT to be confused with its close relative, the Rail-gun, but whatever.

Well, I'll admit, I can be wrong, I've never played Reach, so I've not seen more than the few pictures shown of this thing. But I still haven't seen any coils to make me think otherwise.

Unless I'm mistaken also, and arcs of electricity also create viably strong EMF?

Yep, technically it becomes a railgun. If an object fits the description of something, then it can be defined as being that something. Also, MACs are coilguns, which is an entirely different principle, which also adds to my point in the argument.

Since you don't seem to give up, I will shift sides and try to prove your point.

This is NOT a bottle. It's a water container.
Edited by PX173 on Nov 12, 2010 at 08:08 AM

Derailing the thread with talk of this railgun, railly?

Now wait, you just proved yourself wrong idiot, you said that MACs are coilguns right? well how can you prove that my mac isn't without contradicting yourself? now seriously, go screw yourself troll. Kthnxbai.

I never said it was a MAC, you did.

lolwut? if your going to troll, be have a valid point, and make since, otherwise your a terrible troll. and mooseguy, thank you :P, i've freaking been trying to end this bullcrap for the past like 5 posts (probably more then that)
Edited by Amazingcuziam on Nov 12, 2010 at 09:10 AM

^this. I know, I still won't stop, but no point in replying nor reading anyways. Wanna join us? GTFO.


1: When presenting something to society, it is not your opinion that matters. It's theirs. And everybody believes that it is a railgun. You are free to deny it, and never do you have to accept it, but nonetheless since the truth is what everybody believes in, it is a railgun.

2: Look at my statement on the water container. It is NOT a bottle.

3: Trolls naturally don't make any sense, they just snatch your ice cream cone and lick it.

lolfail. So, i everyone believes in santa claus he becomes real? your getting worse, and by the way, not everyone here thinks its a railgun :P i don't, and i am someone, and i'm not the only one who doesn't. now seriously, GTFO.

*sigh* I meant if everyone believes in a definition and connects it with a concept, object, etc., that definition becomes so for the object. My bad for being unspecific, but deliberately ignoring other points of the opposing side does not lead to triumph.

Stupid argument is stupid. It's getting boring now. Stop?

lol no, it doesn't, but what other relavent point did you have? oh and umm you lose.
Now seriously, go home. (not literally, by what i said i mean GTFO NOOB)
Edited by Amazingcuziam on Nov 12, 2010 at 09:39 AM

I hereby claim victory over this argument for the reason that the opposing side has failed to prove his/her point any further.

Now I'm going back to my orthodox life. I've asked some people about what they think about the argument somewhere else, but other than that, you still lose.

You say I have no valid point without presenting proof nor examples. I can present different points and not just a constant one as well as provide backup.

Hey, dip, look at the picture i posted, what do you see in there? COILS, failed to prove my point eh? your the one who has failed to prove a point, you can't just claim victory idiot.

*coil. Singular. If you're referring to what is in the center, it couldn't possibly be used to propel the projectile along the barrel or whatever you call it. If you're referring to those things between the rails, then I'm quite sure they just guide the projectile.

Also, my life includes apathy. I'm just doing this because I'm bored, it's midnight right now.

Yeah no more extra pages. This is getting boring, everybody on halomaps either has a point in their arguments or just won't quit even if she knows her defense is compromised. *shrug*

lol orly? would you like to prove that it isn't enough? you cant promise me that there are not four more coils under that one that you can see in the picture.

what? no, it started with, "That's a railgun, quite different principal behind a mac cannon"

... because this wasn't the first time? http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm%3Fpage=topic&topicID=20813&start=1961 and for the record, i started no flame war, and tried to end it multiple times.

You didn't go to the link i posted TWICE did you? here, for the third time http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm%3Fpage=topic&topicID=20813&start=1961

the second time who claimed what?

^^^Win post of the entire thread. Sad I came in here to all this nonsense BS of people aruguing over NOTHING. This cannon will be debuting completed in my map pack. Since I'm writing the UI strings for it

I WILL DECIDE WHAT IT'S CALLED

and screw all you know-it-all flamers that think you're smarter than everyone else. You think you can tell me what to do with my maps or their content? Lol. Atleast do your freaking research first. It doesn't matter what theory says it is, or what some random person says. The game series and all the backstory down to the tinniest detail is fiction. Bungie made said game series. As far as anyone SHOULD give a crap, they are gods of Halo and what they says goes. Now stop trying to justify something that isn't real and just enjoy the game.

It will be called the Onager 15cm Mark/2488 1.1GJ Mass Driver Cannon.
The operating principle of the mass driver is essentially the same as that of the Magnetic Accelerator Cannon: a coilgun that magnetically accelerates a package consisting of a magnetizable holder containing a payload.

Official citation:
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_driver

Owned.
Now can we finally end this arguement??
Edited by DA_Ender on Nov 12, 2010 at 02:26 PM

Fine, fine work. keep up the progress! I cannot wait for the maps to release!!

~karima