Firefight hasn't changed much since its introduction to CE, and while some designers have implemented reward systems and new weapons, every Firefight map has the same basic layout: Small guys, followed by more small guys, followed by slightly larger guys, followed by big guys.

So why not mix things up a little? I've decided to utilize a section of CMT's A30 SPV2 as the basis of my map. Firefight maps are always too cramped, and leave little room to maneuver. Each round becomes a familiar pattern as the game progresses. The valleys of Installation 04 will leave players plenty of options when the bullets start flying. At the beginning, some areas of the valley will be off-limits, blocked off by massive shield barriers. But as you progress, shields will fall, and new portions of the valley will be unlocked.

Bonus rounds will be thrown into the mix, to give the player a break from the otherwise continuos onslaught. Covenant Banshees will take to the skies, attempting to flee the battlefield within the allotted time. Sucessfully downing them with the provided Surface-to-Air Missile Launcher will reward the player with anything from an overshield to an emplaced turret.

And of course, you can't forget the Boss Fights. To unlock other portions of the valley, players must defeat the area's Boss. They become progressively harder as you approach the final zone, and defeating them unlocks special weapons and powerups.
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So here's the request: While I posses a rudimentary knowledge of AI modification, I lack the skills required to create some of the unique actor variants I'll need for such a project. And I'm terrible at scripting, so I'll need someone to volunteer for that, as well. I hope someone takes an interest in this and decides to help out. I could use a hand.

And please, don't argue over it. I'm open to criticism, but try and keep it constructive.

This is a troll post. Stop or you will be banned,

That would be greatly appreciated. Do you have Xfire?


A few units I'll need for the Firefight:
•Jackal Scouts: Kig-Yar Mercenaries armed with Plasma Rifles. They lack any form of shielding, instead focusing on offensive manuevers.
•Bosses
Edited by Echo77 on Aug 29, 2010 at 03:13 PM

I hate Dennis.

Here's some basic tips on encounters: Think about encounters found in the campaign. Would they ever have 10 Grunt Minors as an encounter? Or an encounter of nothing but Jackals? Don't be lazy - add as many actor variants as you need to mix it up. Don't set up an encounter if you wouldn't see it in the actual campaign. That's what I hate most about a lot of firefights - people are lazy, don't use the major upgrade properly, and give encounters consisting of nothing but 10 Elite Majors.

Yes, that was my plan. I'll be introducing a variety of new units, and encounters will be squad-based, each member serving a specific role. Later rounds will have multiple squads working in tandem, and eventually vehicles will be thrown into the mix.

This is irrelevant and a troll post as well. Your immaturity is showing by posting this and copying the previous poster. You can also be banned as well.

I know this is your site, but maybe you could PM people about their offenses? That would keep counter-arguments out of the threads, and help keep everyone on topic.
Edited by Echo77 on Aug 29, 2010 at 03:48 PM

Agreed.

And apologies for being part of that argument, I'll stay out of it in the future!
Also mister Echo The Dolphin, if you want help and advice on the ai aspect of this, I'd be glad to help you out should you give me your xfire

im also sorry for being apart of that argument but still i like the idea that you have a few more zones and it would most likely make a decent firefight.

this could actually work if the encounters came in drop ships or in like wraiths and such, instead of just spawning right in the battle. and instead of walking you would get a distress call that a zone has been invaded so a pelican would come for you and take you to the next zone.

can you use custom animations for dropships and pelicans?

also you need a sniping hill or so, because theres no point to have a sniper in a normal area or (like gamma's) in a damn little structure, and make elites come from the first wave, it is boring kill grunts only... way too easy

I considered adding vehicles, but I was afraid people would stay in it the entire game, racking up easy kills as they mowed through infantry.

I would include the store option, but seeing as how I have no idea how to script, someone would have to set that up for me.

And I can't model. :(

Each zone will have ten waves, the final wave being the boss battle, and the fifth wave being the bonus round.



I was planning on enemy forces being deployed via Spirit Dropships.

Each Zone is within walking distance of the next.

Alright. But seeing as how each zone consists of ten waves, adding four more would make a total of seventy.... That's a lot. XD

Do you have an Xfire? There are a few other things I need modelled.

Also, if anyone would be willing to donate an Airstrike Designator, that'd be nice. I wanna use it as a perk for beating a certain number of waves.

UNSC Weapons:

•M6G Magnum (Halo 3)
•M7/s Submachine Gun (Halo 3)
•MA5K Carbine (CMT)
•BR55 SR (Halo 3)
•M90A Shotgun (Halo 3)
•Chaingun (CMT)
•AARL (CMT)

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Covenant Weapons:

•Plasma Pistol (CMT)
•Jackal Plasma Rifle (CMT)
•Plasma Rifle (CMT)
•Spiker (CMT)
•Needler (CMT)
•Covenant Carbine (Halo 3)

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Boss Weapons:

•Revolver (Chronopolis)
•Focus Rifle (A Beam Rifle Modification)
•Plasma Launcher (A Fuel Rod Gun Modification)

Guess I'm two steps from Hell.

And yes, Covenant forces in vehicles can be a good idea, especially on A30 if you execute it well.

Using CMT's HUD and "The Lost Spartan" biped.



Same thing happened to me, which is why I expanded the bridge by overlaying them with light bridges.

Territories will be blocked by large semi-transparent energy shields. After completing a Zone, the shields will lower, allowing you to pass. Once you enter the next Zone, the shields will lock in place, and you will be unable to return to the previous Zone.
(Weapons unlocked in previous Zones will still be available as you progress.)

Only a fool who didn't know the first thing about HUDs would make that happen.

The majority of the weapons are CMT, so everything should match up fairly well.

@Doompig: I know you aren't directly specifying me when you say stuff like that, but then again, you're good at what you do. Not everyone can play Baseball, not everyone can skate, and some people have trouble with map-making.
Edited by Echo77 on Aug 30, 2010 at 10:10 PM

Ahh, o well. I was kinda hoping for more of the old H3 style but w/e.
Atleast I like the MA5K. Is there gonna be backpack tags? I tend to be addicted to third person

I dunno how to set that up for the biped I've decided to use. If someone could explain how, then I might do it.

By the way, could you PM me the name of the 3rd Person program you use? Mine doesn't work anymore.

Because, some people get tired of being stuck in the same area for the entire game. If you get to move around, though, it keeps you on your toes.

can you make it so when you buy a vehicle, a pelican spawns with the vehicle attached, comes to you, drops off the vehicle and fly's away, and when its out of site it diapered, that would be AWESOME, same with enemy vehicles. is that possible?

also can you make it so when you buy a weapon... a drop pod falls down with the weapon in it nearby...?

I've decided that a limited selection of vehicles will be available to the player, albeit destructible ones. I'll see what I can do. Weapons will be spawned on your current base.

Enemy Vehicles will simply spawn when out of sight, and drive until they reach your position.

thats sounds good . cant wait until the map is done :)
Edited by n00b4life97 on Aug 31, 2010 at 06:56 PM

Wut dat?

I'll be upgrading to CMT's Mark V Biped if I can ever find some people to help me with this.

You should make the boss waves have vehicles also...

Bosses:

Zone 1 - Jackal Mercenary and Jackal Smugglers
Zone 2 - Spec Ops Elite squad
Zone 3 - Elite Councillor and Honor Guards

this looks promising and unique, wicked idea. this sounds like a great firefight type map. ill keep my eye on this thread, wish i could help you but i model bsps :\ keep up the good work man!

lol Hr.... what work all they did was talk about what they should do with no work involved yet.

Exactly! Procrastination for the win!


But yeah. I'm not gonna start unless I can find some scripters and AI modders to help.

youre getting some where with planning tho and thats good, something most projects lack.