I am using HEK+ to rip some tags from the map, air_combats. Its located at http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=3377.

When I open it in the map navigator, it says that there are protected tags that look like .sound and .scenery. I want some off those protected tags so that I can mod this map a bit. Can someone tell me how to get these tags out, as the tags I need are not in the normal folders?

I don't think anyone would tell you, even if they knew.
The reason why these tags are protected... is so that you dont rip them!

ask for help on this site so you won't get preached to about ripping tags:

http://hceripper.blogspot.com/

just help the guy don't tell him he shouldn't rip tags that's not going to stop him
Edited by Delicon20 on Dec 30, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Hay guiz, I wanna steal money from a bank, but there's security guards in the way. How doez I get past them?

So people should help me steal the money and get past the security guards, instead of telling me that stealing is bad, and there's a reason why the security guards are there?

The only time you should rip ,is, with permission from the author ,or, to practice the work, unless it is on the hce map site it should "NEVER" to be released into something that you did.
Edited by xsnoder on Dec 30, 2009 at 12:50 PM

use this sight haloceripper.co.nr pakar, zombieodst, and crimson shadow is who you want to talk to. good luck getting help from mattdratt. blogspot isnt the best place to go for asking help.

If u need help u can contact me on my xfire crimsonshadow117

or contact zombieodst on xfire his name is zombieodst and crimson rips to :P

well you helped zombie out alot he says.

ripping takes time, and its not easy, if i were you, i would forget about it, also, hydro, did you get my pm?

no didnt get no pm resend i might have deleted it on accident :P

I don't understand what is so hard about learning the skills and doing it yourself? Yes practice the work of advanced user and there models, but why the hell would you actually use it in your stuff too be published without permission. Also ripping sh#t and putting it on a site for others to use without given consent is just unethical. Please don't give me the patics around bungie and microsoft, heard it and I don't care. The work we put into our art is time consuming and personal. The term Ripping means "rip off" another persons hard work. If you have an open map, knock yourselves out but when you hack encrypted,, that just shows some assh*%le went out of his way and put more effort into being a thiief then trying to be a creator.
There will always be the lazy and the greedy, but there will always be the real people doing the real thing making a real life for themselve's. Keep pretending to be what your "ripping" while the true hard workers brighten there talents and futures.

or that I'm on the other side and you hate the side

as for your other post theyre not admitting they can't make anything,they're just admitting the mapper who made the content is better than them

and as for gammas robbing a bank,I'd say let him get caught holding the gun and it'll teach him,or if he does get away,you can bet his life will be hell for his act thievary

now both sides of this fight have smart people who can post huge posts convincing you to come to the other side and then their supporters,the war is a stalemate,let it go,this is a community,not a debate team,so start acting like a community.
Edited by Delicon20 on Dec 31, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Does anyone else see the irony here?



You wish. I've seen posts saying that we shouldn't care about protection, but no smart posts specifically arguing that protection is bad.
Edited by Gamma927 on Dec 31, 2009 at 11:26 AM

I could say the same thing about your side but would that be the truth?no.and your post isn't true either,search the forums again,I think you'll be surprised.

well,I'm too tired (I was up late playin oblivion) to come up comeback at the moment,so I'll get back to you in maybe an hour

Posts posted today and yesterday? None pro-ripping. Go ahead and quote one.

what thread was that one post in where dennis pointed out that we're just "babies playing with other people's toys and they don't belong to anyone"?

That wasn't today or yesterday :|

Also, where's your "support" posting to help you? All I see right now is you posting.

I myself am just a supporter who strayed a little too far into the front lines and refuses to back up.

and the fight itself hasn't been going on for just today or yesterday

I'm specifically asking for posts posted today and yesterday. Notice that those anti-protection aren't posting anymore in your favor.

xel me and you are the only ones posting,they're not posting in anyone's favor,by the way,where are all your supporters?

I believe Xel and me share a common goal. If it's come to the point where you desperately try to ask where my supporters are, instead of facing the point, then you sir, have already lost.

it's quite hard to win when you're being double teamed by two higher ranking soldiers so the fact I've stood my ground this long should give you some respect for the ripper side, of course now you'll quote my post and finish me off so go ahead,I got you to leave my map alone and flame me instead so i've achieved my goal

Jeez, I didn't realize you people were this low in morals. Some of you aren't, but those who told me to go to all of these sites or contact you on xfire have low or no morals. I'm not even going to try, and all I wanted to do was improve this map a bit, and still give credit to the creator. I didn't realize what the protected tags meant then, I thought it meant that they were parts of the map that did not need to be touched.

Quite the opposite, in fact. You didn't even bother responding to our posts as to why we protect, and you kept saying "IDGAF" and "GTFO". How respect-inspiring.


Alright.


I don't see your logic here. You could just as easily create another map not using ripped tags, and we would all be happy, and support you. Instead, you got us to flame you, which was your intent?

I'm not fighting because it is pointless. I say What "I feel is the truth" and I'm done, but I will let you know now that we are learning and haveing fun at the expense of microsoft and bungie, (for the work done here anyway) but the work we put out is our's by creation and design. If someone likes your stuff enough, don't you think they would also have the respect to ask? or even inquire about the use of it? No argument. It all comes down to what I like to call "mapper etiquette"

I'm making one with ripped tags,one without,that would make some people happier but not a diehard antiripper like xel so I did what I had to do...

Oh god!I see a bright light!!No!!!everythings getting dark!! *chokes out his last breath and gamma and xel watch as the last bit of life flows from his eyes*

Logic fail. If you see a bright light, why would everything go dark?

I try to go toward the light and everything starts to fade into darkness

besides you haven't died so what would you know?

now if you'll excuse I'm busy being dead x0x

If the bright light were to blind you, it'd stay bright. If you were to die, everything would fade out to white. Aren't you a Call of Duty fanboy? In CoD 4, after the nuke scene, Jackson crawls around a bit before dying. The screen fades to white.

Delicon, you are fighting a losing battle. Gamma has not only brought up better arguments for protecting tags, but you have not brought up any good arguments for ripping. So please stop before you make more of a fool of yourself.

dude I already lost,the argumen'ts over

and for gamma I never played cod4 only 5 and six but how would the game creators know they've never seen what it's like to die,we all have our ideas what it would be like but nobody truly knows

Ripping from a protected map makes you no better than a thief.

Thats all there is to it. Anything else you say is just you trying to justify stealing.
Edited by Disaster on Dec 31, 2009 at 01:44 PM

lol^

I don't see the reason for argueing about ripping tags when its not going to stop them. :)