It should give a list of all the HUD messages compiled...

man....i give up! Ive tried everything u got any last suggestions?

u wrote what gamma did...maybe if somone made a vid tutorial and did iti wouldve made it just fine....... i need high detail when it comes to computers and technology


soooo no any good vid tutorials ppl?

Too lazy, takes effort. Here's an example:

Directory of scenario tag: tags\levels\test\tutorial

Scenario name: hudmsgtut

Directory of hud messages.hmt: data\levels\test\tutorial

Tool command: tool hud-messages levels\test\tutorial hudmsgtut

for the tool command is the directory the scenario directory or the hud messages.hmt directory

i noticed that you put this earlier somtime this week

I'm saying you SHOULDN'T, because I was under the impression that zombie-escape was your scenario name. If that's not it, then put your SCENARIO name for the tool command.

if the scenario name is zombie-escape what do i do?
Edited by lolzar on Nov 27, 2009 at 10:16 AM

This is what you put earlier.



HUD messages.hmt doesn't go in a folder with the scenario's name. You put it in haloce\data\levels\test\noremorse

Then, the tool command should be correct.

there isnt a zombie-escape folder the more important thing thats giong on right now is this


Couldn't read map file './toolbeta.map'

### FAILED TO OPEN DATA-CACHE FILE.

### FAILED TO OPEN DATA-CACHE FILE.

### FAILED TO OPEN DATA-CACHE FILE.

culling uncompressed model vertices...done
culling uncompressed structure bsp vertices...done
culling uncompressed model animation data...done
building predicted resources for structures...done
structure bsp 'levels\ledge\ledge' is 0.66M
tag headers and names are 0.22M
streaming model vertex and index buffers...done
streaming tags............................done
writing vertex and index buffers...done 13.61M
writing tags...done (2895 tags for 7.37M)
total tag size is 8.03M (14.97M free)
cache file 8.28M too large (should be 128.00M but was 136.28M)
### FAILED TO BUILD CACHE FILE.

Cache pack file bitmaps hits: 0 for 0.00M
Cache pack file bitmaps adds/misses: 1166 for 90.96M
Cache pack file sounds hits: 0 for 0.00M
Cache pack file sounds adds/misses: 980 for 24.21M
Cache pack file loc hits: 0 for 0.00M
Cache pack file loc adds/misses: 104 for 0.22M



wtf?

You've put in way too many tags for a MP map.

Are you running sapien/guerrila or halo in the background?
if so, exit those programs and try compiling again.

for the hud messages thing i put it in the data\levels\test\noremorse the zombie-escape folder dosnt exist at all so the command i would use is:

tool hud-messages levels\test\noremorse zombie-escape

zombie-escape is the scenario name

Yes.

very strange it still dosnt seem to wanna work i still got the cant read toolbeta.map thing D:
can u tell me from the begining how to do this i wanna check if i missed few steps

Step 1: Copy the location of your scenario tag.

Example: tags\levels\test\noremorse\zombie-escape.scenario

Step 2: Go to the data folder.

Example: data\levels\test\noremorse

Step 3: Create hud messages.hmt, using unicode encoding

Example: data\levels\test\noremorse\hud messages.hmt

Step 4: In tool, type tool hud-messages [DIRECTORY - SCENARIO] [SCENARIO]

Example: tool hud-messages levels\test\noremorse zombie-escape

OMG I DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TY TY TY TY TY I DID IT I DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i tried for a new map and IT WORKED!!!

one last problem whats teh script

the one i used is

(script startup bloodscript2.5
(begin
(sleep_until (volume_test_objects marines-spawn (players)) 15)
(show_hud_help_text true)
(hud_set_help_text obj1)
(sleep 150)
(show_hud_help_text false)
)

what i got from sapien is:

[scripting line 29] this left parenthesis is unmatched.: (script startup bloodscript2.5
recompiling scripts after scenarios were merged.
this left parenthesis is unmatched.: (script startup bloodscript2.5

can somone provide an answer?
Edited by lolzar on Nov 28, 2009 at 03:32 PM

i need help too it says cannot read toolbeta.map. and i typed in tool build-cache-file levels\super\super
Edited by gman57op on Jan 21, 2010 at 05:40 PM

Did you wait to see if there were any messages following that?

"[scripting line 29] this left parenthesis is unmatched.: (script startup bloodscript2.5
recompiling scripts after scenarios were merged.
this left parenthesis is unmatched.: (script startup bloodscript2.5"

This means you started a bracket but didin't end it later.
Add a ) to the end:

(script startup bloodscript2.5
(begin
(sleep_until (volume_test_objects marines-spawn (players)) 15)
(show_hud_help_text true)
(hud_set_help_text obj1)
(sleep 150)
(show_hud_help_text false)
)
)
Edited by SlappyThePirate on Jan 21, 2010 at 08:13 PM

Technically, you're missing a parentheses, like the guy above me said, but the begin could cause problems. For a better fix, remove the begin. So use:

(script startup bloodscript2.5
		(sleep_until (volume_test_objects marines-spawn (players)) 15)
		(show_hud_help_text true)
		(hud_set_help_text obj1)
		(sleep 150)
		(show_hud_help_text false)
	)

idk it works now. im using tool++ because its alot easier. but now unless if i extract other weapon tags with hek+,it will say tags cannot be read please contact your nearest bungie thing for isistance. So f i download them i cant load them.

Make sure you're putting them in the correct locations, or that you aren't missing any tags. Check the debug.txt file located in the Halo root directory for a full list of tags that can't be read.

lol whatever happens is not my fault. Ok nomatter what they wont load hey if u know what desired permutation means tell me because the weapons that load disapear
Edited by gman57op on Jan 30, 2010 at 11:14 AM

You need to add them as netgame equipment rather than .weapon tags for multiplayer maps, as the .weapon tags will disappear due to respawn. You know how in multiplayer games, if you kill someone, their weapons disappear? That's what's happening here.

ok thanks how do i make them into netgame equipment

Open guerilla. At the top: File -> New -> Item Collection.

do you know the diffrence between kornmans hek and the origonal 1

It may have different names, but there should be a button with the same functionality as "File", "New", and whatnot.

um i changed my weapons to item collection and added them to my map and they arnt loading. I found a new tool on halo maps its called tool++ it duz the same things as tool but makes it alot easier oh i like your old quote ill take it whatever happens its not myfault
Edited by gman57op on Feb 2, 2010 at 07:38 PM

All tool++ does is compile scenarios. From my experience with it, it can't compile bitmaps, animations, hud messages, run lightmaps, and a lot of stuff. Tool++ should be sufficient for modding and recompiling maps though.

For the item collections, make sure the item collection is set up properly. Make sure you have a weapon specified, a weight, and a respawn time. As for adding it into a scenario, in Sapien, the Hierarchy View, go to Mission > Game Data > Netgame Equipment. Right click to place it down like a weapon, and in the properties pane, browse to your item collection which you should have saved.

As for my avatar quote, my motto changes from time to time. I don't change it to cater to the likings of other people.

ok whats a weight for

Permutations. You can have an item collection spawn different weapons, like half of the time, it spawns an assault rifle, and the other half, it spawns a plasma rifle. The weight is essentially how much of the time it would spawn which. If you had assault rifle at 100, and plasma rifle at 0, it'd spawn the assault rifle 100% of the time. If you had 50 for both, it'd be an equal chance. If you only have one weapon in the item collection though, just set it to 100.

so whaat if i just wanted them to spawn in thier origonal starting positions

They'll spawn wherever you put the netgame equipment flag. You don't put .weapon flags in Sapien, UNLESS you're making a single player map. For multiplayer, you put down netgame equipment flags. I'm talking about spawning different weapons IN the same place. For example, if I modified the item collection that spawns the sniper rifle to spawn a sniper rifle 50% of the time, and a rocket launcher the other 50% of the time, and I recompiled bloodgulch, bloodgulch would be overrun by rocket noobs grabbing the rocket launcher off of the top of the base when it spawns. Sometimes it'll spawn rocket launchers, and sometimes it'll spawn sniper rifles.

ok thanks when i put the .weapons down i saw on my properties palette i saw desired permutation what duz that mean

Don't put .weapons down UNLESS it's a single player map.

hey gamma i just screwed up my tags folder if u can please send me a replacement with only the orginal stuff in it if u cant explain if u can. By the way i think i viewed your youtube account.