I've looked at some tutorials on adding ai using sapien and need a little help.I choose new instance after doing what people say to do on ais and for some reason they don't spawn but it doesn't say there's an error like it did when I tried to spawn odst's.this has happened with jackal plasma rifles and cmt brutes (so far those are the only three actor varients I have)

also how do you change the weapon of an ai like say I want an odst to wield jackal's fixed ma5c,how would I do that (my guess is it's not done in sapien but I dunno where it's done at if it isn't)

I copy the odst actor varient and paste it into the same folder,then,i open it in guerilla and change the copys weapon,then rename it to whatever you want.

okay now I got the weapon thing down but I still need help with what I'm doing wrong in sapien

Go to the encounter properties window and check respawn enabled,and for the to spawn,go to squad properties and go to to normal/insane diff count etc....Change normal to 1 and insane to 1,and min and max respawn to however many Spawn points for the ai you have.So if i had 5 ai spawns,i would put min and max respawn at 5.Total respawn is 0.

this is what happened on sapien (I did what you said):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITpm4MsW9w4

Were the tags added without error? When you added them, did it ask you to contact a Bungie Programmer?

Do not mess with the "Respawn Total". Keep it at 0.
Edited by FtDSpartn on Jul 10, 2009 at 12:14 AM

You DO know what that will do, don't you? 0 AI will respawn, meaning no AI, which is useless for MP AI mods, unless you happen to be doing SP. Or you have a custom pause menu to spawn them.

You flag "respawn enabled" under each encounter...

yeah it said to contact a bungie programmer does that mean my tags were corrupt or somethin?

It means that you were either

a) missing tags
b) you put them in the wrong place
c) corrupted

Check your debug.txt, and it'll say what tags in particular are missing.

07.09.09 19:54:42 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
07.09.09 19:54:42 reference function: _write_to_error_file
07.09.09 19:54:42 reference address: 401b13
07.09.09 19:54:42 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
07.09.09 19:54:43 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
07.09.09 19:54:43 Sound card doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements. Disabling hardware option.
07.09.09 19:54:44 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
07.09.09 19:54:56 local player 0, weapon (0x0), deleted unexpectedly
07.09.09 19:58:36 file_open('tags\characters\elite\elite minor\elite minor.actor') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 19:58:36 couldn't open actor tag 'elite minor.actor'.
07.09.09 19:58:36 file_open('tags\cmt\characters\brutes\brute major.biped') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 19:58:36 couldn't open biped tag 'brute major.biped'.
07.09.09 19:58:36 failed to load actor_variant tag 'cmt_brutes_v1_Public\cmt\characters\brutes\actor varients\brute major plasma rifle'
07.09.09 20:03:38 file_open('tags\characters\jackal\jackal minor rifle.actor') error 0x00000002 'The system cannot find the file specified. '
07.09.09 20:03:38 couldn't open actor tag 'jackal minor rifle.actor'.
07.09.09 20:03:38 file_open('tags\characters\jackal\jackal minor rifle.biped') error 0x00000002 'The system cannot find the file specified. '
07.09.09 20:03:38 couldn't open biped tag 'jackal minor rifle.biped'.
07.09.09 20:03:38 failed to load actor_variant tag 'characters\Plasma Rifle Jackals\characters\jackal\jackal minor plasma rifle'
07.09.09 20:03:45 \halopc\haloce\source\rasterizer\dx9\rasterizer_dx9_widgets.c(959): D3DERR_DEVICELOST in hr (code=-2005530520, error=)
07.09.09 20:03:45 ### ERROR rasterizer_widget_get_occlusion_test_result failed
07.09.09 20:03:45 \halopc\haloce\source\rasterizer\dx9\rasterizer_dx9_widgets.c(959): D3DERR_DEVICELOST in hr (code=-2005530520, error=)
07.09.09 20:03:45 ### ERROR rasterizer_widget_get_occlusion_test_result failed
07.09.09 20:03:45 \halopc\haloce\source\rasterizer\dx9\rasterizer_dx9_widgets.c(959): D3DERR_DEVICELOST in hr (code=-2005530520, error=)
07.09.09 20:03:45 ### ERROR rasterizer_widget_get_occlusion_test_result failed
07.09.09 20:03:45 \halopc\haloce\source\rasterizer\dx9\rasterizer_dx9_widgets.c(959): D3DERR_DEVICELOST in hr (code=-2005530520, error=)
07.09.09 20:03:45 ### ERROR rasterizer_widget_get_occlusion_test_result failed
07.09.09 20:03:45 \halopc\haloce\source\rasterizer\dx9\rasterizer_dx9_widgets.c(959): D3DERR_DEVICELOST in hr (code=-2005530520, error=)
07.09.09 20:03:45 ### ERROR rasterizer_widget_get_occlusion_test_result failed
07.09.09 20:03:45 \halopc\haloce\source\rasterizer\dx9\rasterizer_dx9_widgets.c(959): D3DERR_DEVICELOST in hr (code=-2005530520, error=)
07.09.09 20:03:45 ### ERROR rasterizer_widget_get_occlusion_test_result failed
07.09.09 20:03:45 \halopc\haloce\source\rasterizer\dx9\rasterizer_dx9_widgets.c(959): D3DERR_DEVICELOST in hr (code=-2005530520, error=)
07.09.09 20:03:45 ### ERROR rasterizer_widget_get_occlusion_test_result failed
07.09.09 20:03:45 \halopc\haloce\source\rasterizer\dx9\rasterizer_dx9_widgets.c(959): D3DERR_DEVICELOST in hr (code=-2005530520, error=)
07.09.09 20:03:45 ### ERROR rasterizer_widget_get_occlusion_test_result failed
07.09.09 20:03:45 \halopc\haloce\source\rasterizer\dx9\rasterizer_dx9_widgets.c(959): D3DERR_DEVICELOST in hr (code=-2005530520, error=)
07.09.09 20:03:45 ### ERROR rasterizer_widget_get_occlusion_test_result failed
07.09.09 20:03:45 \halopc\haloce\source\rasterizer\dx9\rasterizer_dx9_widgets.c(959): D3DERR_DEVICELOST in hr (code=-2005530520, error=)
07.09.09 20:03:45 ### ERROR rasterizer_widget_get_occlusion_test_result failed


07.09.09 22:41:29 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
07.09.09 22:41:29 reference function: _write_to_error_file
07.09.09 22:41:29 reference address: 401b13
07.09.09 22:41:29 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
07.09.09 22:41:30 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
07.09.09 22:41:30 Sound card doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements. Disabling hardware option.
07.09.09 22:41:31 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
07.09.09 22:41:37 local player 0, weapon (0x0), deleted unexpectedly
07.09.09 22:43:20 file_open('tags\characters\mine\spartan.actor') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:21 couldn't open actor tag 'spartan.actor'.
07.09.09 22:43:21 file_open('tags\characters\odst\odst.biped') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:21 couldn't open biped tag 'odst.biped'.
07.09.09 22:43:21 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\assault rifle.gbxmodel') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:21 couldn't open gbxmodel tag 'assault rifle.gbxmodel'.
07.09.09 22:43:21 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\assault rifle.model_collision_geometry') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:21 couldn't open model_collision_geometry tag 'assault rifle.model_collision_geometry'.
07.09.09 22:43:21 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\muzzle flash.light') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:21 couldn't open light tag 'muzzle flash.light'.
07.09.09 22:43:21 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\sounds\ready.sound') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:21 couldn't open sound tag 'ready.sound'.
07.09.09 22:43:21 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\melee.damage_effect') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:21 couldn't open damage_effect tag 'melee.damage_effect'.
07.09.09 22:43:21 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\melee_response.damage_effect') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:21 couldn't open damage_effect tag 'melee_response.damage_effect'.
07.09.09 22:43:21 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\effects\flashlight.effect') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:21 couldn't open effect tag 'flashlight.effect'.
07.09.09 22:43:21 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\effects\flashlight.effect') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:21 couldn't open effect tag 'flashlight.effect'.
07.09.09 22:43:21 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\fp\fp.gbxmodel') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:21 couldn't open gbxmodel tag 'fp.gbxmodel'.
07.09.09 22:43:21 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\fp\fp.model_animations') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:21 couldn't open model_animations tag 'fp.model_animations'.
07.09.09 22:43:21 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\assault rifle.weapon_hud_interface') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:21 couldn't open weapon_hud_interface tag 'assault rifle.weapon_hud_interface'.
07.09.09 22:43:21 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\sounds\reload_empty.sound') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:21 couldn't open sound tag 'reload_empty.sound'.
07.09.09 22:43:21 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\bullet.projectile') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:21 couldn't open projectile tag 'bullet.projectile'.
07.09.09 22:43:21 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\effects\fire bullet.effect') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:21 couldn't open effect tag 'fire bullet.effect'.
07.09.09 22:43:21 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\effects\empty.effect') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:21 couldn't open effect tag 'empty.effect'.
07.09.09 22:43:21 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\trigger.damage_effect') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:21 couldn't open damage_effect tag 'trigger.damage_effect'.
07.09.09 22:43:21 failed to load weapon tag 'weapons\jackals ma5c assault rifle tags fixed\weapons\ma5c assault rifle\ma5c assault rifle'
07.09.09 22:43:21 failed to load actor_variant tag 'characters\ODST_AI\tags\characters\ODST - Copy\odst_ma5c_assault_rifle'
07.09.09 22:43:26 file_open('tags\characters\mine\spartan.actor') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:26 couldn't open actor tag 'spartan.actor'.
07.09.09 22:43:26 file_open('tags\characters\odst\odst.biped') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:26 couldn't open biped tag 'odst.biped'.
07.09.09 22:43:26 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\assault rifle.gbxmodel') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:26 couldn't open gbxmodel tag 'assault rifle.gbxmodel'.
07.09.09 22:43:26 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\assault rifle.model_collision_geometry') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:26 couldn't open model_collision_geometry tag 'assault rifle.model_collision_geometry'.
07.09.09 22:43:26 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\muzzle flash.light') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:27 couldn't open light tag 'muzzle flash.light'.
07.09.09 22:43:27 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\sounds\ready.sound') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:27 couldn't open sound tag 'ready.sound'.
07.09.09 22:43:27 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\melee.damage_effect') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:27 couldn't open damage_effect tag 'melee.damage_effect'.
07.09.09 22:43:27 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\melee_response.damage_effect') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:27 couldn't open damage_effect tag 'melee_response.damage_effect'.
07.09.09 22:43:27 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\effects\flashlight.effect') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:27 couldn't open effect tag 'flashlight.effect'.
07.09.09 22:43:27 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\effects\flashlight.effect') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:27 couldn't open effect tag 'flashlight.effect'.
07.09.09 22:43:27 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\fp\fp.gbxmodel') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:27 couldn't open gbxmodel tag 'fp.gbxmodel'.
07.09.09 22:43:27 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\fp\fp.model_animations') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:27 couldn't open model_animations tag 'fp.model_animations'.
07.09.09 22:43:27 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\assault rifle.weapon_hud_interface') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:27 couldn't open weapon_hud_interface tag 'assault rifle.weapon_hud_interface'.
07.09.09 22:43:27 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\sounds\reload_empty.sound') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:27 couldn't open sound tag 'reload_empty.sound'.
07.09.09 22:43:27 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\bullet.projectile') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:27 couldn't open projectile tag 'bullet.projectile'.
07.09.09 22:43:27 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\effects\fire bullet.effect') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:27 couldn't open effect tag 'fire bullet.effect'.
07.09.09 22:43:27 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\effects\empty.effect') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:27 couldn't open effect tag 'empty.effect'.
07.09.09 22:43:27 file_open('tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle\trigger.damage_effect') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
07.09.09 22:43:27 couldn't open damage_effect tag 'trigger.damage_effect'.
07.09.09 22:43:27 failed to load weapon tag 'weapons\jackals ma5c assault rifle tags fixed\weapons\ma5c assault rifle\ma5c assault rifle'
07.09.09 22:43:27 failed to load actor_variant tag 'characters\ODST_AI\tags\characters\ODST - Copy\odst_assault_rifle'


man it'd be much more easier if these things spoke proper english

They do. All you need to do is to get all the tags that they couldn't open. Look above to see the tags. You'll have to get all those tags, as they're corrupted. An easy task [/sarcasm]

Basically, you put the assault rifle in the wrong folder. For example, find the .weapon tag. Move it to the folder tags\weapons\ma5c-assault-rifle. Move all the other folders and tags to that directory as well.

it WAS in the right folder then.when I downloaded it that's where it was/is the only thing I can think of is I wasn't supposed to put the folder jackal's ma5c assault rifle tags in the weapons section of tags but as for the brutes,jackals,and odsts I put them all where theyre supposed to be as far as I know,and it said the same error thing with each cmt smg,icee's silenced pistol and the h2 battle rifle I got from the weapon section of halomaps

so basically I haven't put any weapon,vehicle (I've tried aa wraith and needler ghost), actor varient,or biped on a map using sapien because it says error every time.
Edited by Delicon20 on Jul 10, 2009 at 11:03 AM

No. If it was in the right place, it would work. Let's walk you through this. Once you download it, open the .zip. You get this folder called jackles MA5C assault rifle tags fixed. Open that up. There's a weapons folder. Open that up. You'll find a MA5C assault rifle folder. Put that folder inside your tags\weapons folder.

Oh, and for CMT's brutes, put the entire CMT folder inside the tags folder.

I did what you said and it didn't work
Edited by Delicon20 on Jul 10, 2009 at 02:12 PM

thats what happened to me
the only thing you can do is place your tags properly especially the sound ones

i has a sujeschon: rip the tags from a map to save time

how did you fix your problem?I've done everything everyone said and none of it worked.I wish someone would make a step by step vid that goes from downloading a tag that I don't have to organizing it,and then putting it in sapien.THAT would help sooooo much.

Ok. What folder is your weapon tag in?

weapons folder

odst in characters

cmt folder on main page

smg's in the same folder as brutes (cmt folder)

and by the way I made sure my tags were in the right place (which took a while they were a little messed up but alas they still didn't work)

Exact directory. For example, smg_cmt.weapon should be in the folder tags\cmt\weapons\human\smg.

which is where it is

in my weapons folder there's a folder that says ma5c assault rifle open that up and the assault rifle.weapon is in there,along with the bitmaps and shaders folders and everything else

ma5c assault rifle or ma5c-assault-rifle? Oh, and CMT's SMG was missing tags, which would explain why you can't open it. You'll either have to make the tags, or use a substitute. The brutes I had no trouble with.

then I wonder why I had trouble with the brutes...

and I can't make tags,and I don't know where to get a substitute.

the tags it missing you can try replacing with assault rifle tags or just finding a different weapon to use....

Also there are no tutorials on how to download a tag and put it in sapien... that why their are readme txt files in all the files you download from halo maps...

(do you read them???)

This is because all tags are different and even if the person uploaded the tag and it worked on his or her computer doesn't mean it will work on all computers it also doesn't mean it will work correctly as every computer may have a different tag set... for instance in order to use the wraith turret.vehicle from halomaps you must first have ripped Wraith tags from an sp map.... without them the turret wouldn't work.

open your ma5c weapon tag in guerilla, and fix EVERYTHING that guerilla highlights in red (ie. you replace those with the appropriate tags)

after fixing, open every single object that you have fixed that was once highlighted in red, and check for more items highlighted in red (fix them too)

find your errored odst tag that is specified in the debug.txt file, and fix everything there that is highlighted in red.

Sometimes the .weapon itself has no red text. There's only red text if a necessary file can't be found. Even if that file is missing tags, or is corrupted, it'll still display that tag as ok. In the debug, it'll say "Failed to load [TAG]". Open that tag up, and look for red text.

kay on my smg silenced silenced it says I'm missing hud interface h3t\weapons\smg\h3t-smg

where could I find that?

in h3t\weapons\smg\

:\

Open up the SMG. Scroll down to weapon HUD interface. There should be some red text. Click the three dots next to it, and browse to weapons\assault rifle\assault rifle.weapon_hud_interface.

For fixing the MA5C assault rifle,i made a new folder in my weapons folder,so then i had MA5C Assault Rifle and ma5c-assault-rifle,then i copied and pasted all the folders and files in MA5C assault rifle to ma5c-assault-rifle. (I think you still have to fix some red text though...)
Edited by FtDSpartn on Jul 11, 2009 at 03:44 PM

kay I fixed all the red text,made sure every thing was in the right place,and sapien still said there was an error.Is it possible sapien itself is corrupt?

umm... lolz sapien wouldn't load if it was corrupted.... anyway your tags still a bit messed up like gamma said just because red letters is gone doesn't mean all your tags are perfect.

You should be more specific on what still doesn't work. . .

im my tags

and you must fix all errors needed so that sapien can load.
Edited by Invader Veex on Jul 11, 2009 at 07:15 PM