I have a specops elite in my elite character folder but i can get it in sapien it always says please contact bungie or whatever does anyone know if they have one that works or if i can somehow change the original blue elite's color instead?

Re-rip your tags from D20 or D40.

Also, post your last paragraph of debug.txt here.

After I re-rip my tags?

You can change the blue colour to black in the shader file, just make a copy of the original shader and a copy of the biped.

if it says it can't be placed ingame it means there is something wrong with it (usually missing something or a wrong reference), to troubleshoot you can check the last par. in the debug file in your main halo directory

Basically, you're missing tags. Re-rip to solve the problem. Read the last few lines of your debug.txt file to find out what files you are missing. Then specifically rip those

What im sayin is not matter what i rip i could rip the whole of halomaps.org if i wanted to it still wont ahve the tags reripping does nothing

Good idea. Do that, and tell us how it goes. Or, put up your debug.txt file. Your choice. Ripping the entire halomaps.org would solve all your present and future problems (I mean download every single tag pack there). And if its a custom specops biped, then no wonder. Either way, post your debug.txt

Main points:
-Post debug.txt

OR

-Download every single tag pack on the website

lol ^ am i supposed to try to open it in sapien then save then close sapien and then post my debug?

Yes. Also notice that I am online on xfire, and you can ask me questions at any time...

01.22.09 20:56:43 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
01.22.09 20:56:43 reference function: _write_to_error_file
01.22.09 20:56:43 reference address: 401b13
01.22.09 20:56:43 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
01.22.09 20:56:44 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
01.22.09 20:56:45 DirectInput: 'Acquire (keyboard)' returned (DIERR_OTHERAPPHASPRIO#-2147024891)
01.22.09 20:56:46 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
01.22.09 20:57:35 local player 0, weapon (0x0), deleted unexpectedly
01.22.09 20:58:14 file_open('tags\h3t\characters\elite\elite.gbxmodel') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:14 couldn't open gbxmodel tag 'elite.gbxmodel'.
01.22.09 20:58:14 file_open('tags\characters\elite\copy of elite.model_animations') error 0x00000002 'The system cannot find the file specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:14 couldn't open model_animations tag 'copy of elite.model_animations'.
01.22.09 20:58:14 file_open('tags\h3t\characters\elite\elite.model_collision_geometry') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:14 couldn't open model_collision_geometry tag 'elite.model_collision_geometry'.
01.22.09 20:58:14 file_open('tags\h3t\hud\interfaces\character\elite.unit_hud_interface') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:14 couldn't open unit_hud_interface tag 'elite.unit_hud_interface'.
01.22.09 20:58:14 file_open('tags\h3t\hud\interfaces\character\elite.unit_hud_interface') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:14 couldn't open unit_hud_interface tag 'elite.unit_hud_interface'.
01.22.09 20:58:14 file_open('tags\h3t\weapons\plasma_rifle\plasma rifle.weapon') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:14 couldn't open weapon tag 'plasma rifle.weapon'.
01.22.09 20:58:14 file_open('tags\h3t\weapons\covenant_carbine\elite carbine.weapon') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:14 couldn't open weapon tag 'elite carbine.weapon'.
01.22.09 20:58:14 failed to load biped tag 'characters\elite\elite commander\elite commander'
01.22.09 20:58:19 file_open('tags\h3t\characters\elite\elite.gbxmodel') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:19 couldn't open gbxmodel tag 'elite.gbxmodel'.
01.22.09 20:58:19 file_open('tags\characters\elite\copy of elite.model_animations') error 0x00000002 'The system cannot find the file specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:19 couldn't open model_animations tag 'copy of elite.model_animations'.
01.22.09 20:58:19 file_open('tags\h3t\characters\elite\elite.model_collision_geometry') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:19 couldn't open model_collision_geometry tag 'elite.model_collision_geometry'.
01.22.09 20:58:19 file_open('tags\h3t\hud\interfaces\character\elite.unit_hud_interface') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:19 couldn't open unit_hud_interface tag 'elite.unit_hud_interface'.
01.22.09 20:58:19 file_open('tags\h3t\hud\interfaces\character\elite.unit_hud_interface') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:19 couldn't open unit_hud_interface tag 'elite.unit_hud_interface'.
01.22.09 20:58:19 file_open('tags\h3t\weapons\plasma_rifle\plasma rifle.weapon') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:19 couldn't open weapon tag 'plasma rifle.weapon'.
01.22.09 20:58:19 file_open('tags\h3t\weapons\covenant_carbine\elite carbine.weapon') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:19 couldn't open weapon tag 'elite carbine.weapon'.
01.22.09 20:58:19 failed to load biped tag 'characters\elite\elite major\elite major'
01.22.09 20:58:23 file_open('tags\h3t\characters\elite\elite.gbxmodel') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:23 couldn't open gbxmodel tag 'elite.gbxmodel'.
01.22.09 20:58:23 file_open('tags\characters\elite\copy of elite.model_animations') error 0x00000002 'The system cannot find the file specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:23 couldn't open model_animations tag 'copy of elite.model_animations'.
01.22.09 20:58:23 file_open('tags\h3t\characters\elite\elite.model_collision_geometry') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:23 couldn't open model_collision_geometry tag 'elite.model_collision_geometry'.
01.22.09 20:58:23 file_open('tags\h3t\hud\interfaces\character\elite.unit_hud_interface') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:23 couldn't open unit_hud_interface tag 'elite.unit_hud_interface'.
01.22.09 20:58:23 file_open('tags\h3t\hud\interfaces\character\elite.unit_hud_interface') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:23 couldn't open unit_hud_interface tag 'elite.unit_hud_interface'.
01.22.09 20:58:23 file_open('tags\h3t\weapons\plasma_rifle\plasma rifle.weapon') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:23 couldn't open weapon tag 'plasma rifle.weapon'.
01.22.09 20:58:23 file_open('tags\h3t\weapons\covenant_carbine\elite carbine.weapon') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:23 couldn't open weapon tag 'elite carbine.weapon'.
01.22.09 20:58:23 failed to load biped tag 'characters\elite\elite minor\elite minor'
01.22.09 20:58:27 file_open('tags\h3t\characters\elite\elite.gbxmodel') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:27 couldn't open gbxmodel tag 'elite.gbxmodel'.
01.22.09 20:58:27 file_open('tags\characters\elite\copy of elite.model_animations') error 0x00000002 'The system cannot find the file specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:27 couldn't open model_animations tag 'copy of elite.model_animations'.
01.22.09 20:58:27 file_open('tags\h3t\characters\elite\elite.model_collision_geometry') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:27 couldn't open model_collision_geometry tag 'elite.model_collision_geometry'.
01.22.09 20:58:27 file_open('tags\h3t\hud\interfaces\character\elite.unit_hud_interface') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:27 couldn't open unit_hud_interface tag 'elite.unit_hud_interface'.
01.22.09 20:58:27 file_open('tags\h3t\hud\interfaces\character\elite.unit_hud_interface') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:27 couldn't open unit_hud_interface tag 'elite.unit_hud_interface'.
01.22.09 20:58:27 file_open('tags\h3t\weapons\plasma_rifle\plasma rifle.weapon') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:27 couldn't open weapon tag 'plasma rifle.weapon'.
01.22.09 20:58:27 file_open('tags\h3t\weapons\covenant_carbine\elite carbine.weapon') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:27 couldn't open weapon tag 'elite carbine.weapon'.
01.22.09 20:58:27 failed to load biped tag 'characters\elite\elite specops\elite specops'
01.22.09 20:58:38 file_open('tags\cmt\characters\elite\ranger\ranger.gbxmodel') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:38 couldn't open gbxmodel tag 'ranger.gbxmodel'.
01.22.09 20:58:38 file_open('tags\cmt\characters\elite\ranger\ranger.model_animations') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:38 couldn't open model_animations tag 'ranger.model_animations'.
01.22.09 20:58:38 file_open('tags\cmt\characters\elite\elite.model_collision_geometry') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:38 couldn't open model_collision_geometry tag 'elite.model_collision_geometry'.
01.22.09 20:58:38 file_open('tags\cmt\characters\elite\shaders\shield plasma.shader_transparent_plasma') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:38 couldn't open shader_transparent_plasma tag 'shield plasma.shader_transparent_plasma'.
01.22.09 20:58:38 file_open('tags\cmt\characters\elite\ranger\sounds\jetpack.sound_looping') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:38 couldn't open sound_looping tag 'jetpack.sound_looping'.
01.22.09 20:58:38 file_open('tags\cmt\characters\elite\ranger\engine.light') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:38 couldn't open light tag 'engine.light'.
01.22.09 20:58:38 file_open('tags\cmt\characters\elite\ranger\engine.light') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:38 couldn't open light tag 'engine.light'.
01.22.09 20:58:38 file_open('tags\cmt\weapons\special\dual_plasma_rifles\plasma rifle.weapon') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.22.09 20:58:38 couldn't open weapon tag 'plasma rifle.weapon'.
01.22.09 20:58:38 failed to load biped tag 'characters\elite\ranger\elite rangera

also i changed everything off of h3t so idk

Apparently you need tags from CMT and HDoan's Halo 2 biped pack. If you did download everything off the website, it would work fine. By the way, is this the file I sent you, because I told you they wouldn't work for you. Download CMT's ranger tags, and HDoan's Halo 2 Biped pack.

no these arnt actor varients you sent me actors i thought

Ah. Apparently, I reread your missing tags, and I just remembered that some tags were missing from HDoan's Biped pack. The elite, for example, requires a covenant carbine, and directs it to the weapons folder. Open up the biped in Guerilla, scroll down to weapons, and delete all the weapons. Then, click add, and add a weapon that you DO have. And apparently, you've been trying to open CMT's rangers, and not the Specops biped that you have. The debug.txt file never lies.

actualy no i opened everysingle elite i have in sapien

The debug.txt never lies.

Well, try to open the specops elite, and only paste the portion concerning that.

01.24.09 14:49:13 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
01.24.09 14:49:13 reference function: _write_to_error_file
01.24.09 14:49:13 reference address: 401b13
01.24.09 14:49:13 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
01.24.09 14:49:14 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
01.24.09 14:49:17 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
01.24.09 14:50:35 DirectInput: 'Acquire (keyboard)' returned (DIERR_OTHERAPPHASPRIO#-2147024891)
01.24.09 15:13:09 local player 0, weapon (0x0), deleted unexpectedly
01.24.09 15:13:29 file_open('tags\h3t\hud\interfaces\character\elite.unit_hud_interface') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.24.09 15:13:29 couldn't open unit_hud_interface tag 'elite.unit_hud_interface'.
01.24.09 15:13:29 file_open('tags\h3t\weapons\covenant_carbine\elite carbine.weapon') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.24.09 15:13:29 couldn't open weapon tag 'elite carbine.weapon'.
01.24.09 15:13:29 failed to load biped tag 'characters\elite\elite specops\elite specops'

tags\h3t\hud\interfaces\character\elite.unit_hud_interface
tags\h3t\weapons\covenant_carbine\elite carbine.weapon

Why don't you ask H3MT nicely for these tags? I'm sure they'll be happy to oblige [/sarcasm]

lol ok.

...that was sarcasm. Redirect those tags.

i tried redirecting and it didnt work

Then ask them for it.

that failed

[15:30] Black Alpha: hey
[15:30] HDoan: hi
[15:30] Black Alpha: Whats up?
[15:30] HDoan: nm you
[15:31] Black Alpha: im asking people: do you know how to link bsp's togther? :D
[15:31] Black Alpha: lol
[15:31] HDoan: i dont now
[15:31] Black Alpha: k
[15:31] Black Alpha: just wondering...
[15:32] Black Alpha: tags\h3t\hud\interfaces\character\elite.unit_hud_interface
tags\h3t\weapons\covenant_carbine\elite carbine.weapon

Why don't you ask H3MT nicely for these tags? I'm sure they'll be happy to oblige: sent to me by Gamma927
[15:32] Black Alpha: because i cant open my specops tags without theme
[15:32] HDoan: if you read more
[15:33] HDoan: the guy said he was being sarcastic
[15:33] HDoan: im not giving away my h3mt tags
[15:33] Black Alpha: i know but i diddnt think it would hurt to ask
[15:33] Black Alpha: and ok
[15:33] HDoan: yes it did hurt
[15:33] HDoan: I lost my respect in you;
[15:33] Black Alpha: lol
[15:33] Black Alpha: never knew i had any



01.25.09 16:41:31 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
01.25.09 16:41:31 reference function: _write_to_error_file
01.25.09 16:41:31 reference address: 401b13
01.25.09 16:41:31 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
01.25.09 16:41:31 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
01.25.09 16:41:32 DirectInput: 'Acquire (keyboard)' returned (DIERR_OTHERAPPHASPRIO#-2147024891)
01.25.09 16:41:33 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
01.25.09 16:41:56 file_open('tags\h3t\characters\cortana\shaders\cortana alpha.shader_transparent_chicago_extended') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.25.09 16:41:56 couldn't open shader_transparent_chicago_extended tag 'cortana alpha.shader_transparent_chicago_extended'.
01.25.09 16:41:56 failed to load gbxmodel tag 'characters\cortana\cortana'
01.25.09 16:41:56 failed to load biped tag 'characters\cortana\cortana'
01.25.09 16:41:56 file_open('tags\h3t\characters\cortana\shaders\cortana alpha.shader_transparent_chicago_extended') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.25.09 16:41:56 couldn't open shader_transparent_chicago_extended tag 'cortana alpha.shader_transparent_chicago_extended'.
01.25.09 16:41:56 failed to load gbxmodel tag 'characters\cortana\cortana'
01.25.09 16:41:56 failed to load biped tag 'characters\cortana\cortana'
01.25.09 16:42:27 file_open('tags\h3t\characters\cortana\shaders\cortana alpha.shader_transparent_chicago_extended') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
01.25.09 16:42:27 couldn't open shader_transparent_chicago_extended tag 'cortana alpha.shader_transparent_chicago_extended'.
01.25.09 16:42:27 failed to load gbxmodel tag 'characters\cortana\cortana'
01.25.09 16:42:27 failed to load biped tag 'characters\cortana\cortana'
01.25.09 16:42:30 failed to load scenario tag 'I dont't want peeps to see name'
01.25.09 16:42:30 need to get the following tags:
01.25.09 16:42:30 h3t\characters\cortana\shaders\cortana alpha.shader_transparent_chicago_extended
01.25.09 16:42:30 h3t\characters\cortana\shaders\cortana alpha.shader_transparent_chicago_extended
01.25.09 16:42:30 h3t\characters\cortana\shaders\cortana alpha.shader_transparent_chicago_extended
01.25.09 16:42:30
01.25.09 16:42:30 game_load() failed.

Ok, first of all, the original specops elite biped had NOTHING to do with H3MT. Re-rip d40, and override all your tags. Then try opening it.

i got rid of h3t folder and my elites folder and campaign folder reextracted and it all works now.