So. Most of you have used halo editing kit plus and enjoyed its ability to extract the tags from various maps for the many purposes that you might have in mind. While Steelixb did a fantastic job of coding, the program was made with Visual C# and is rather unstable. The menus stick, certain tags cannot be extracted, the menus stick, and the big one, you have to have the rather stubborn .net framework. I have programmed a zeta (incredibly early) version of the program i have come to call Map Ripper Xtreme, which will be able to extract all types of tags from any map. If you have any suggestions for features you want to see in this utility, post them here. currently my program can extract .scenario, .bitmap, and .sound tags, sort of.
Edited by AHS_SONIC on Nov 18, 2007 at 06:42 PM

im comtemplating that...
i might have a version for an exclusive group of people that extracts protected maps and\or protects XD

am I exclusive?

Dont try or make it extract from protected maps, that would be very wrong of you and you would lose alot of respect in this community. just cause people would like you for it, does not mean they would respect you for it.

But make it be able to protect maps for sure.

maybe being able to rename the tags for ripping would be cool if it could be done.

HEK+ is very stable to me, it has always worked, i have never had a problem with it.

Edited by Rm860 on Nov 18, 2007 at 07:01 PM

yes you are
any one with the letter L in their name is exclusive.

there is an L in my name, you just cant see it.

you say i wudnt be respected...
hmmm *thinks*

respect vs fame, the age old battle

Kiwi doesn't need to meet your alphabetic guidelines to be exclusive.

I already got two Ls in my name. But I don't want to be exclusive.

I'm exclusive! But I dont want it. Im fine with HEK+ and not going into protected maps like a n00b.

Bad peoples would bring down the reputation and quality of things.

corn...Logman? close enough. also i don't see a use for this program, I've never had any problems with HEK+.

*Slap* There is a reason why those maps are protected.

yea i dont like kiwi either hes too full of himself...and im voting for someone else...

i have added a few features. so far i am defining script commands. there may be a script extractor in the beta version. so far i can extract a few basic commands. it will only take the commands, no references so far, or the script type, and parenthesis are ignored. but it can save as either HSC or TXT. i might be able to let it extract h2 assets as well, and, for those hard core modder/hackers, halo 3 meta.
Edited by AHS_SONIC on Nov 18, 2007 at 10:21 PM

How is Kiwi too full of himself?

He talks in 3rd person, a sign of over inflated ego.

Or a sign of some type of mental disorder. Or maybe he really is a grunt....?

im exclusive...yay

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I laugh in your face. Have fun with your HTC.

Just use HEK+. It is the same thing as this.

That was a mature post....Explain to us, please, why you 'laugh in their faces.'

You failed the funny test.

masters, go away.

and hek+ doesnt extract scripts, so technically they arent the same thing.

Uh, yes it does?

Scripts are part of the scenario.

If you didn't know that, then i seriously question the quality/functionality of the application.


EDIT: Also, zeta is higher up than either alpha or beta, even epsilon. Get your Greek alphabet straight.
Edited by CtrlAltDestroy on Nov 19, 2007 at 07:26 PM

Because that "HSC data" is compiled into the scenario.

By that logic, are you saying that you should be able to extract a JMS from a map?

HSC isn't a tag. Dur.

Αα Alpha Νν Nu
Ββ Beta Ξξ Xi
Γγ Gamma Οο Omicron
Δδ Delta Ππ Pi
Εε Epsilon Ρρ Rho
Ζζ Zeta Σσ Sigma
Ηη Eta Ττ Tau
Θθ Theta Υυ Upsilon
Ιι Iota Φφ Phi
Κκ Kappa Χχ Chi
Λλ Lambda Ψψ Psi
Μμ Mu Ωω Omega

There's the Greek alphabet.

Good job copying/pasting from wikipedia. That must've taken lots of effort. ;)

Took me three hours to figure out how to copy and paste hehe.

wow ure right... even this took lots of effort lol!

no, seriously, go away masters. go rot in a hole somewhere because no one cares whatt you have to say

I know the scripts are woven into the scenario, providing they are error free. this thread is more asking you what features oyu might want to see in program similar to the HEK+. i could honestly care less what you might do with it, or what yout think about it.

Map protection, in terms of hek+, is nothing more than a a few simple lines of "code" added to the map file that will tell hek+ to display the items as protected. Another program capable of opening maps will ignore this code.

Scripts can be viewed and, ultimately saved to a readable, compileable format if they are defined first. I have found a way to get specific commands out of the level a30. so far, its an extremely experimental process, and i can only get a few commands out intact.

This program will NOT be the same as HEK+ heres why:

MRX:
Can open both halo 2 and halo maps to extract all resources.
Can view and extract scripts in both Text and HSC formats
DOES NOT rely on .net framework to function
Will give the option to rename tags if existing tags do not want to be replaced

HEK+
Relies on .net framework to function
Cannot extract scripts in Text or HSC format
Can open halo 2 maps, but cannot extract tags and jumbles tag names
Can only replace or ignore existing tags

1. HEK+ cannot export scripts because that is not its intended functionaly, thus, no support.
2. You could not be more wrong about protection. It actually changes the filepath of each tag so that they are the same. If you open up a protected HaloCE map with an edited header in say... HMT, the tags are still displayed as protected. I'm pretty sure there wasn't HaloCE, let alone map protection to be considered back then. HEK+ cannot extract cause then there would be conflicting files. If it was done the way you said, it would be much too simple to get around.
3. Scripts are stored in the scenario not as they are, but in a format that can be "read" and understand by the engine. You just need a means of interpreting that format into a "compilable" format. I don't want to sound like I'm gloating, but we [Zteam] have already perfected script decompilation; trust me, it isn't a 3 step process. :/

Edited by CtrlAltDestroy on Nov 20, 2007 at 12:07 AM

Is this suppose to offend me? I've been part of this community for over 3 years. You're words are meaningless for me. Rather than flame me, you should look and see what happens to the other flamers on this board. Salimander will enjoy your company.

i really cant get why this is so hard for you to understand, get off this thread masters. no one really cares how long you have been a member of whatever community or whatever it is you do in your spare time.

It seems i was mistaken about map encryption, if you decide to add an encryption key to the map, then a few lines of code are added to the cache file. That must be what i noticed while poking through the map.

If the tags directories are jumbled, then map protection will still apply no matter what application you open it in, and i dont want to have to take the time to get aorund something like that.

*school bell rings*
g2g...

Leave it..Let Hek+ be the one and only we need..Besides its great alredy..Your will most likly be like a copy..