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Author	Topic: halo3 valhalla ce (pics) yes I made this (168 messages, Page 2 of 5)
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Nexus Halo Joined: Feb 24, 2007 Halo's Dark Knight http://www.nexushalo.kk5.org/	Posted: Oct 21, 2007 11:13 PM Msg. 36 of 168 I for one think it looks pretty good but there are some things different. For one the base at the back there isnt a little ledge fora banshee. It sits on the ground. Also dont reply saying it looks horrid if you never made a map or made a somewhat decent one. Edited by Nexus Halo on Oct 21, 2007 at 11:13 PM

CLS_GRUNT Joined: Jan 21, 2007 Old	Posted: Oct 21, 2007 11:15 PM Msg. 37 of 168 thank you for your support nexus

Jay2645 Joined: Mar 29, 2007 Cortana saw you naked.	Posted: Oct 21, 2007 11:29 PM Msg. 38 of 168 Clears Throat I may have been spending too much time at H2V, so forgive me. The only good thing about the model are the bases, and they aren't even yours. You used the Outline tool, held shift, and then used the scale tool. Whoop-dee-doo. Then used cut on the river, which isn't very accurate at all. Not only that, the bases LOOK nice, but they aren't supposed to be Valhalla's bases, and, as such, they don't look like Valhalla's bases. Plus I spy smoothing errors that are going to be a pain in the donkey to fix.[/rant] Oh, and use more grammar, kthxbye.

CLS_GRUNT Joined: Jan 21, 2007 Old	Posted: Oct 22, 2007 12:05 AM Msg. 39 of 168 I have no clue on how to use any of the tools you said except scale and those bases will be taken away and ill put some other bases that ill model and any comments on the wall? beacause im the only person on this fourm that like harsh h2vista critizim beacuase you guys will ashure that my map in the end dosent look like crap

Dennis Joined: Jan 27, 2005 "We are made of starstuff.” ― Carl Sagan	Posted: Oct 22, 2007 10:46 AM Msg. 40 of 168 I think the design shows promise and in my opinion it should NOT look exactly like the Halo 3 level but be inspired by it. What I mean is that it is OK to have different styled base designs, or a different styled wall and the layout need not be exact but instead balanced for the weapon set and vehicles you are going to use. Be creative not a copycat. Remember that one of the features of the halo 3 level is the man-cannon which has a physics function unsuitable for the Halo 1 game engine sure you can fake it but it will never work properly as it does in H3. So account for that fact and change the design a bit to be more H1 friendly.

il Duce Primo Joined: Apr 22, 2007 CMT Team Leader	Posted: Oct 22, 2007 02:47 PM Msg. 41 of 168 Quote: --- Original message by: Yance786 hey looks gud so far but r u making any h3 weapons? and once ur done with this map u should do high grounds. WOW.

CLS_GRUNT Joined: Jan 21, 2007 Old	Posted: Oct 22, 2007 04:24 PM Msg. 42 of 168 thank very much all of you dennis ill put that in account when im populating

n00b1n8R Joined: Jun 14, 2006 Major League Trolling	Posted: Oct 27, 2007 02:05 AM Msg. 43 of 168 Quote: --- Original message by: fuzzy ATTENTION LAST POST ON THIS FORUM EVER A good H3 Valhalla is not possible. Trust me, I've been trying for months. The Halo 1 engine, as Almighty Dennis said, Cannot support most of the things in Halo 3 anyway. Even if the model was perfect, It would lag alot ingame and gameplay would be nearly impossible. I had a nearly perfect model and tags for everything were as perfect as possible, I got it ingame and gameplay was nearly impossible. I couldn't even hit anyone. If you want the model You can have it, just ask. Fuzzy has spoken. post pics.

ODX Joined: Jul 26, 2007 A rare sight, indeed.	Posted: Oct 27, 2007 11:02 AM Msg. 44 of 168 Last post....awwww Speaking of pics, here are some pics (I've showed some of these already) of CLS_Grunt's Valhalla. Not entirely that good.. Battle Rifle: Man..cannon?: And now, in comparison to Asgard: Edited by ODX on Oct 27, 2007 at 11:07 AM

ODX Joined: Jul 26, 2007 A rare sight, indeed.	Posted: Oct 27, 2007 11:12 AM Msg. 45 of 168 ? It's just something else to look at....ever make a nice post?

Killer247 Joined: Mar 31, 2007 I r mastur chef lololoololololol	Posted: Oct 27, 2007 11:24 AM Msg. 46 of 168 Not usually. Then again, not many do.

il Duce Primo Joined: Apr 22, 2007 CMT Team Leader	Posted: Oct 27, 2007 04:23 PM Msg. 47 of 168 Asgard looks beter in my mind.

CLS_GRUNT Joined: Jan 21, 2007 Old	Posted: Oct 27, 2007 04:52 PM Msg. 48 of 168 I added a ****load of new stuff for a better version so ill post some pics later

Donut Joined: Sep 30, 2006 I swear I'm not actually dead	Posted: Oct 27, 2007 05:22 PM Msg. 49 of 168 Quote: --- Original message by: RougeSpartan414 You have to admit that is pretty close. sigh no my friend, it is absolutely nothing like Valhalla the ground needs to not be flat, you need cliffs, that big metal thing needs detail... the list goes on

il Duce Primo Joined: Apr 22, 2007 CMT Team Leader	Posted: Oct 27, 2007 07:27 PM Msg. 50 of 168 Quote: --- Original message by: selentic Your map phails, learn to model first.

Miso Joined: Apr 14, 2007 Brownies =D <3	Posted: Oct 27, 2007 07:45 PM Msg. 51 of 168 If I recall, he said he barely learned to model. So far, compared to asgard <which probably had more than 1 person making it> it's going fine. Besides, he's TRYING to get your help not your obviously dimwitted opinions. Seeing as "phails" is spelled as "fails." I'd have to agree that it needs :work: but honestly in order to do anything so that it is good, that's always what it's going to take. Consider that he isn't just rushing everything and he's asking for help, perhaps one of you can find the effort he's putting in this and HELP him out. Personally, I couldn't help him, mainly because I've never attempted something THIS custom. As for myself I might suggest rounding some things out, for example the river area's floor <a bit too triangular don't you think?> and the halo 1 boulders is actually proof that you were <listening> to dennis. So far, so good. Please keep working at it.

CLS_GRUNT Joined: Jan 21, 2007 Old	Posted: Oct 27, 2007 07:57 PM Msg. 52 of 168 Quote: --- Original message by: Miso If I recall, he said he barely learned to model. So far, compared to asgard <which probably had more than 1 person making it> it's going fine. Besides, he's TRYING to get your help not your obviously dimwitted opinions. Seeing as "phails" is spelled as "fails." I'd have to agree that it needs :work: but honestly in order to do anything so that it is good, that's always what it's going to take. Consider that he isn't just rushing everything and he's asking for help, perhaps one of you can find the effort he's putting in this and HELP him out. Personally, I couldn't help him, mainly because I've never attempted something THIS custom. As for myself I might suggest rounding some things out, for example the river area's floor <a bit too triangular don't you think?> and the halo 1 boulders is actually proof that you were <listening> to dennis. So far, so good. Please keep working at it. I completely agree he pretty muched summerized everything thats been going on in my mind

CLS_GRUNT Joined: Jan 21, 2007 Old	Posted: Oct 27, 2007 08:07 PM Msg. 53 of 168 Quote: --- Original message by: selentic Your map phails, learn to model first. how is this constuctive?

CLS_GRUNT Joined: Jan 21, 2007 Old	Posted: Oct 27, 2007 08:16 PM Msg. 54 of 168 well saying your map phails isnt relly good crit just unnessacary and hatefull something like this would have been better "your map dosent look very good at the present state I think you should ajust the ground it looks like it has some bad soomthing and is very plane I think you should add more polys and make some rocks hill etc mabey a better tutorial would be helpfull look for one on this site or on google." yes I know your going to quote that part and paste it im working on it ok?

Miso Joined: Apr 14, 2007 Brownies =D <3	Posted: Oct 27, 2007 10:01 PM Msg. 55 of 168 I wasn't saying that you... Oh my <i wish I COULD say the F-word right now> God. Look maybe if you take a look at ALL of what I said as opposed to assuming what I said was "You should say it owns..-" because that's FAR from what I was trying to say. I was saying to shut up and give him some ideal "critisim" as oppose to being a lump on a log and sitting there claiming everything you're saying is intelligent. By the way, "Learn To model, you're map phails." is hardly helpful, and is rather a stupid thing to say, obviously it seems he can model. So shutup and listen to what I'm REALLY saying.

Killer247 Joined: Mar 31, 2007 I r mastur chef lololoololololol	Posted: Oct 27, 2007 11:14 PM Msg. 56 of 168 Don't try to make this map high detailed, it may blow up the Halo1 engine. Oh yeah, practice a little bit more on modeling and you'll be making good maps in no time. Though I shouldn't be saying that because I can't model for ****.

Miso Joined: Apr 14, 2007 Brownies =D <3	Posted: Oct 28, 2007 12:07 AM Msg. 57 of 168 Quote: --- Original message by: selentic Okay he should learn to model well Happy? <sigh> I guess, ignorance apparently is plentiful. Honestly for such a flaming A-hole... Nevermind. Fact is, you still aren't LISTENING Edited by Miso on Oct 28, 2007 at 12:08 AM

RougeSpartan414 Joined: Sep 24, 2007 Angatar, the Iron-Father.	Posted: Oct 28, 2007 06:06 AM Msg. 58 of 168 No one understands what I mean I meant the basic shape.

ODX Joined: Jul 26, 2007 A rare sight, indeed.	Posted: Oct 28, 2007 09:41 AM Msg. 59 of 168 As said by Dennis: Quote: --- Original message by: Dennis I think the design shows promise and in my opinion it should NOT look exactly like the Halo 3 level but be inspired by it. What I mean is that it is OK to have different styled base designs, or a different styled wall and the layout need not be exact but instead balanced for the weapon set and vehicles you are going to use. Be creative not a copycat. All of those fit Asgard and I agree. Grunt, I'm going against you here. You guys need to get more organized. Why do an 'exact' copy of a Halo 3 course when you can make something like Asgard and then say to people playing Halo 3:"Haha! I'm playing something you'll never be able to play!" Instead of just copying what they already have. Why bother? Yes, it's expensive but I'd rather try to buy it than play a crappy copy of it. Asgard perfectly demonstrates this. So what if you let them do 'Valhalla' (Asgard) and someone else make a map bases of Snowbound, and any other bases. I leave you with this: Quote: --- Original message by: Dennis So account for that fact and change the design a bit to be more H1 friendly.

Killer247 Joined: Mar 31, 2007 I r mastur chef lololoololololol	Posted: Oct 28, 2007 12:14 PM Msg. 60 of 168 Quote: This is nothing like valhalla Good. An exact replica of valhalla would blow up most computers or give players fps lag.

kirby_422 Joined: Jan 22, 2006 Apparently public enemy number 1?	Posted: Oct 28, 2007 12:25 PM Msg. 61 of 168 Quote: --- Original message by: selentic Quote: --- Original message by: CLS_GRUNT Quote: --- Original message by: selentic Your map phails, learn to model first. how is this constuctive? It is telling you exactly what you need to do. Learn to model, and then show us something. ya, he acleast is telling him something, other than dsalimander coming here, claiming its garbage without saying a thing, then growling that just the claim of it being garbage is constructive critisism. selentic realy cant be that discriptive of what he needs to improve, because its kinda every single thing hes done.. lol Quote: --- Original message by: Killer247 Quote: This is nothing like valhalla Good. An exact replica of valhalla would blow up most computers or give players fps lag. ya.. it looks alot more like that bodily function I had last night in the bathroom.. you could make valhalla look preaty identical with fine FPS, its just you couldnt make the bumpmaps always show (to do that, you'd need a dynamic light over the level instead of a lightmap, it would make it alot more like H2 and 3, but it would be lag land. its hte only thing you'd have to sacrifice in replication.)

hailstorm65 Joined: May 25, 2007 Gamertag- Soviet Vodka	Posted: Oct 28, 2007 12:47 PM Msg. 62 of 168 But why cant he spell "fail" like a normal person does? But it also seems like just about every post selentic makes is negative in the whole forum.

kirby_422 Joined: Jan 22, 2006 Apparently public enemy number 1?	Posted: Oct 28, 2007 12:54 PM Msg. 63 of 168 Quote: --- Original message by: hailstorm65 But why cant he spell "fail" like a normal person does? But it also seems like just about every post selentic makes is negative in the whole forum. come on, I say phail aswell lol. come on, its only 8/10 that selentic makes negitive instead of 50/1 for sali lol, he makes many many negitive coments per post.

Miso Joined: Apr 14, 2007 Brownies =D <3	Posted: Oct 28, 2007 01:28 PM Msg. 64 of 168 You know what it's become obvious that you don't listen well. Maybe you find what I have to say insignificant, or whatever. Otherwise you clearly don't <understand> what I'm trying to say. So, basically: 1. He's new to modelling, attempting to do something that other people are afraid of being <smack-talked?> if they mess up. 2. I'm telling you to give him useful information as oppose to tell him to find a tutorial because I know for a fact, that there are few tutorials on this site that explain thoroughly. <I personally taught myself how to make maps> 3.He was not going to use those bases as he said in a previous post, because many people were <upset?> :/ cry then. And besides define "badly done models" because honestly most of the ones I've seen are pretty bad and people don't get so worked up about it. 4. Asgard sucked, only because you could tell so little effort was put into it, the scale was too small etc. 5. Learn to listen. Finally: If he can get the basic shape and everything my point is it looks like it could become a pretty decent map. Perhaps he will be the first to put some background stuff instead of just bitmaps. <a nice little mountain or something> UNDERSTAND? Comprende?Comprehend my words and think before you speak. Edited by Miso on Oct 28, 2007 at 01:30 PM

SiMuLaCrUm Joined: Oct 25, 2006 too digital	Posted: Oct 28, 2007 01:34 PM Msg. 65 of 168 Seeing as there seems to be debate over what constructive criticism is, I have taken the liberty to look it up on Wikipedia, and here is what I found: Quote: Constructive criticism is a form of communication in which a person tries to correct the behavior of another in a non-authoritarian way, and is generally, a diplomatic approach about what another person is doing socially incorrect. It is 'constructive' as opposed to a command or an insult and is meant as a peaceful and benevolent approach. Participatory learning in pedagogy is based on these principles of constructive criticism. Constructive criticism is the process of offering valid and well-reasoned opinions about the work of others with the intention of helping the reader or the artist, rather than creating an oppositional attitude. An art critic can also be a champion of a new artistic movement in the face of a hostile public (e.g. John Ruskin), using scholarship and insight to show the value and depth of a new style. Critics might even champion a wholly new art medium; for instance the century-long critical struggle to have photography recognised as a valid art form. There can be a tension between constructive and useful criticism; for instance, a critic might usefully help an individual artist to recognise what is poor or slapdash in their body of work - but the critic may have to appear harsh and judgemental in order to achieve this.

inbasul Joined: Jul 19, 2007 My name IS, IN FACT, spelled correctly.	Posted: Oct 28, 2007 02:00 PM Msg. 66 of 168 Quote: --- Original message by: selentic Just by agreeing with me you became 25% more patriotic. I just got that book yesterday. Nice. And about the whole model... WAAAY off...The turret-side is WAY off-placed.

inbasul Joined: Jul 19, 2007 My name IS, IN FACT, spelled correctly.	Posted: Oct 28, 2007 02:04 PM Msg. 67 of 168 Quote: --- Original message by: selentic Quote: --- Original message by: inbasul Quote: --- Original message by: selentic Just by agreeing with me you became 25% more patriotic. I just got that book yesterday. Nice. And about the whole model... WAAAY off...The turret-side is WAY off-placed. Goody, one less person begging me to lend it out (Read reading I am america and you can too reading guidelines.) It's "I am America (and so can you)" to be exact.

CLS_GRUNT Joined: Jan 21, 2007 Old	Posted: Oct 28, 2007 02:43 PM Msg. 68 of 168 wow flame fest mapping isnt turning out to be as fun as I thought...I try to make a fun map with half decent gameplay beacause some *******s are complaining about asgard and this happens well bye

CLS_GRUNT Joined: Jan 21, 2007 Old	Posted: Oct 28, 2007 02:48 PM Msg. 69 of 168 this is uploaded by next week...no more pics if you dont like it well deal with it

donut7024 Joined: Sep 23, 2007 I thought you were a woman..............	Posted: Oct 28, 2007 06:28 PM Msg. 70 of 168 Coming along very nicley. . . sorry for my spelling. . . make shure there is a man cannon that can shoot any thing like in halo 3

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