Well this is an new species of covenant i'm making it will be an snake like variant of the elite

They are stronger, faster and have mre health then elite but they arent smart and have no tactical insight

They use melee weapons only because they are so stupid that they dont understand how to use them

But dont let your guard down they move 3 times faster then elites and can jump more distance

They have better eye sight and can hear farther away

well here is the temperarely final version of the serptain

Like if i have the time when i'm done reskinning i'll make the final version wich isnt using hte elite biped but will be a lot taller, a lot stronger/faster and if it is pissivle it will have destroyable armor



for the people who talked about the skin that it was jsut 1 color the scales have a few color variants even in the early versions but sinds the skin is so detailed it looks like it's all black when you go in game you will see the little diverent colors of scales

They can also see in the dark

they are equiped with energyswords and most of the time work alone

They sometimes use an jackal energyshield besides the energysword

their military ranks is jsut a little bit belowe the elites they come from hte same planet of the elite (that explains the same body type and reptile DNA) They come in 4 colors

Green: minor
Dark green: Major
Black: black ops
Silver: commander

These creatures are never scarred and will fight you even when they are heavely out numbered

They have more thirst for blood the then elites and dont have a lot of patience

When their hungry and they cant eat right away they will sometimes kill a grunt or jackal to sativy their hunger
Edited by gamegodlazy on Aug 1, 2007 at 04:30 PM
Edited by gamegodlazy on Aug 1, 2007 at 04:32 PM
Edited by gamegodlazy on Aug 6, 2007 at 10:09 AM

Wow this sounds like my favorite type of enemy. Cool looking, swift, and dumb, the triple threat!
Well done.

hate the first one, love the second one.

i would make it so it looks like they are not wearing any armor at all. So the whole body looks like the head. Make then not have shields as they could be too stupid to know how to use them lol. Maybe you can get them to wield a more primitive looking weapon. Skin a energy sword to look like it's metal. that would fit the serptain well.

like they can use hte energy sword because that's easy to use jsut swing it at ur enemy and i'm giving it hte same body armor as the elites

becuase they'r species are famely of hte leties (just like monkyes are to us) so it has almost havethe same body type

The head wont be armored

and if i use a mroe primative energy weapon i have to make usre that it wont be destroyed after they are killed and that you as a mc can use it to XD
Edited by gamegodlazy on Aug 1, 2007 at 04:36 PM

its just a reskinned elite isnt it?

like i was thinking of that metal sword last night and i think i'm going to add it

thats why i suggested it.

just skin it so it's a solid metal texture and make it not glow. I think these guys would look awesome with such a primitive weapon.

like i made the neck out of snake skin to

but i'm confused if i should make the chest out of snake skin to or that i should leave it like this

Like if i leave ti it breaks up the snake skin a little bit

I am also planning on making the armor more primitiv so no lights and stuff

also does any1 know how i can made sound tags?? for the voice of the serptain
Edited by gamegodlazy on Aug 2, 2007 at 04:10 PM

this is the serptain without armor

try making the whole thing serpent with just armor on the feet and change the head so it doesnt have the same model as if it was wearing armor.

Like I am, going to leave the armor on the arms and legs because i want it to have an gladiator feel to it and then reskin the armor parts into metal ones
I was already thinking about reshaping the body and head

but Sinds it is tronger then an elite it should have bigger muscles then an elite so i'm thinking about keeping the body the way it is and just smooth it out a little bit.

I'm not sure if i want to reshape the head because i want it to look more like a cobra wiht the flaps on his back when the cobra is pissed off XD

(sinds this creature is always pissed off it will always have flaps XD)






Edited by gamegodlazy on Aug 3, 2007 at 01:57 AM

If you're not going to do much to the head, at least make that point that comes off the top go back more, that one little point bugs me lol....

these things just looked angry and hungry.

like i'm thinking about making it about 1,5 heads bigger then an elite so it is big to XD

so we got a big, angry, and strong snake like creature. It sounds like something that would be in a Dean Cain movie lol.

lol like idk if i make the model bigger in 3ds max or gmax if i have to modify or even have to redo all teh animations

You wont, as long as all the nodes are set up correctly, and match the original elites....

lol thanks man i needed to know that

Just make sure that when you edit the model, when you click on editable mesh, hit hold/yes in the error box that comes up, and not just yes, otherwise it will become un-rigged....

No... more like elites gone wild

lol and take a look at this
i removed the white spots the the body

the blue 1 is holding an h2 neergysword and the re a plasma rifle (it wont hold that in the campain)
Edited by gamegodlazy on Aug 4, 2007 at 02:58 PM

add some kind of color variation in the scales. its not natural looking to have all one color of skin

i agree. these things still are cool to me. I can't wait to see them with a metal sword, i think he is still planing to do that.

Woot, 3000th post

congrats! that is a lot.

lol and i'm honoured that you have chosen my topic to make your 3000th post XD (whahaha)
i'm also planning on giving it destroyable armor
so i when hte head is remodeld i can give it head armor and chest armor armor on the arms that are destroyable (i'm not making it destroyable for the legs because i think it should have somekind of armor all the time(and because the fact that i'm to lazy to remakde the legs)

Also i cant seem to make the metal energy sword i have tried but it keeps turning into an grey energy sword

if some1 could make it for me that would be great
Edited by gamegodlazy on Aug 5, 2007 at 05:34 AM

For the serptain armor you should make it grey or silver. The gold does not go with a creature that is supposed to be primitive.

for the sword i wish i could help you but i don't know how to do that. But i hope someone will help you with it. But if it does not work out you still can just use a normal energy sword and it will look okay still.

yeah i am using the colors blue(minor) red(major) and silver(body guard to inportant/high ranking elites)

Like the minor already need 4 shotgun shells in their head to kill them and that is easy XD
so they are really though

I firt made them very fast dodgers but that doesnt work with mele because when they are close to you and cna kill you with the energy sword they jsut dodge so now i made the brutal beserkers

when you stick them with an plasma nade they dont bother aborting their attack

In fact they survive it and still have a lot of health left XD

I do want them to look primitiv but they are still part of the covenant so they wear the same kind of armor other wise you have the h2 brute effect (in halo 2 the brutes looked more like apes then an smart allien species and didnt look part of the covenant because they didnt wear armor)
Edited by gamegodlazy on Aug 6, 2007 at 01:50 PM

i just did not know you were ranking them, so yea it's all good then.

lol oke the ai of the first level is done the serptain can be difficult even on easy

Like in a10 it jsut appears 1 time where you normally get that elite that you can smakc in the back while it's berserking at your team mates at the other end of the hallway well now it the minor serptain.

Sidns the serptain cant be surprised it will turn and swing his energy swrd at you if you try to smakc it in the back

I was careless and was taken by surprise by the little basterd

Luckely the mariens helped out otherwise i would have won but i would have lst a lot of health (was already out of shield) i emtied 2 clisp of assault rifle ammo at it and it still didnt go down then a few shots from hte 3 mariens and a melee attack at his head and it was luckelly gone

lol i think they kill you notthe otehr way around XD

this shows my h2 elite fight my serptain

I rather be an spartan XD or a Serptain XD

Commander(silver) serptain elite

well i am testing the beta ai and it's pretty awsaoem
it takes a blow at you 3 times a sec if you come to close meanign it wont stop slashing at you with it's energy sword

It needs 6 shotgun shots to the head from close range and it needs 4 plasma nades in order to kill it

XD it's the strongest ai there is out there XD

Edited by gamegodlazy on Aug 7, 2007 at 04:04 PM

sorry to be brutal, but it sounds completely overpowered. like the nuke of weapons. if your going to make an enemy faster and stronger, it should be easier to kill from a distance, but it looks to me like you just wanted to make an all to powerful version of an elite. if your going to make a new enemy, you have to think about how it will fit into gameplay, not just give it loads of abilities. overall im not incredibly impressed. it looks like an elite that fell in the mud
Edited by iron clad on Aug 7, 2007 at 04:58 PM

like most weapons are tweaked so it wont be so hard to defeat

Like a shotgun is jsut 6 shots for hte silver commander

And i'm adding shotguns (and extra ammo) in the levels in case you encouter 1

The extra ammo will be hiding quite well

and it may be fast abd stronger it is dumber. It isnt encoutered as much as an elite and I can defeat it in hand to hand combat with an pistol or assaulth rifle

Like this ai isnt over powered it doesnt use ranged weapons so if you play ur cards right you can defeat it without using much ammo, granades or not even hit by it 1 time

And i tried the ai in the maps and they fit pretty well because they are a lot harder to kill doesnt make them to strong, like there will be jsut 2 or 3 in every map

Like my intetion of this campain is to give the player a better version of the original map

Like both in detail and in gameplay

like I made all hte ai tronger for the people (like me) who think legendary is easy with the original campain

But it is optional to play it at normal and make it a challenge to get trough without being killed time after time like legendary

They dont ruin the game play they add something

Like your jsut 50% of the people that dont like it

I'm not making it for you or those otehr people but for those other 50% who love it
Edited by gamegodlazy on Aug 7, 2007 at 05:39 PM

you have to be prepared to meet your audience, is all im saying. 6 shotgun shells is just KINDA alot there. it takes 3 to kill a brute in halo 2, and one to kill an elite. it seems to me these things are far overpowered. elites can use energy swords and still kick some ass, if these serpentiens are faster, then it doesnt sound fair for the player. also, i cant get over the fact that its just an elite with a coat of paint