give em laser sights or don't make them instant kill

Can't do laser sights. A sniper is a high powered rifle, and while we would never make it kill instantly, even 2-3 shots that instantly hit you and do major damage would be really annoying. Not to mention its really strange if your weapon does more damage to your enemies than it does to you.

That is extremely disagreeable.

See half life 1 or even mirrors edge for many examples on how this was done correctly and in a very good way.
Edited by Higuy on Sep 7, 2012 at 04:00 PM

any links to vids? I don't really play that many games.

you could just do it completely differently and make it shoot a beam round for like a second allowing the weapon to hit multiple targets with one shot, and a cool off slightly longer than the br. that way it'd resemble sentinel weapons, and you could make a sentinel drone that uses it and drops it, similarly to the sentinel beam. Nerf the power of the weapon a bit and maybe add a shockwave that slightly damages nearby enemies and it'd be a weapon completely different from the carbine and the br, and would prolly be a game changer

it'd also be cool to have a sentinel that shot those needle like projectiles that the promethian crawlers and sentinel enforcers use. they could hover low to the ground like the geist that was cut from spv2. <-- that's just my own suggestion

I don't know about you guys, but I find this pretty.




Still a work in progress of course.
Edited by Masters1337 on Sep 9, 2012 at 02:38 AM

Pelican sure looks pretty

who wouldn't??? i mean look at em!
i think my nVidia9400GT wont cut it.

Oh gosh. So so pretty.

That is gorgeous.

i think the impact in the second pic (under the warthog) could look more like an explosion and less like a star. other than that, good work!

That ground map is really nasty looking, but other than that, it is definitely looking amazing :)
Edited by Bobblehob on Sep 9, 2012 at 03:40 AM

Actually, I installed CE and OS on my friends 3 year old 13" macbook, with has a 9400m with I believe 256 ram, and I was able to play all the CMT maps with some pretty decent FPS, except in areas that still require serious optimization. I had some new graphical effects off, but it's completely playable, and pretty gorgeous as well, although the screen on the macbook is amazing, looked better in some areas than my new 1080p Samsung monitor.

It looks alright but the post processing looks pretty disgusting along with the ground map, like Bobble said. Pelican looks nice though.

That pelican looks awesome and so does the warthog.

Everything else looks weird though. And way too much bloom. :/

The rocks look cool, but look a bit too papery to me.

what post-process settings do you use Masterz? motion/bloom amount.
Mine looks like I dont use OS, i can only see the normal maps clearly.

Awesome.

I wonder if 343 can do the same with same tools we have.

343 Have the source, they can do so much more than we can.
Although, what we've managed so far is rather good, considering what we where given.

Don't forget extra tools made by other people, for example Kornman and OS.
Edited by Caboose 14 on Sep 9, 2012 at 01:37 PM

You guys need a better forerunner structure modeling. Also better ground and structure textures. I think the ground and cliff textures don't really go, and the forerunner structure texture is way to grimy and dirty. I know it's been a very long time since someone has been there, but i just think it would look better cleaner. And another thing, the grass on the ground is way darker then the green edges of the cliff, making the cliff and everything else not darker stick out. Unless that's a good thing.
Edited by P3 on Sep 9, 2012 at 08:35 PM

looks awesome, nice to see the new hog in-game

But really, everything looks new and Halo reach/cea style (Cea, as in with the new models and stuff. Not with the old Halo 1 models.) ..... and then there is the forerunner structures.... You guys are still making them look like Halo 1 style architecture. Unless that's what you guys are aiming for. I just think that it needs to have the reach/cea style also.

agreed, the structures seem lacking, both in geometry and texture. instead of using cover-all texture patterns, could you make custom ones for each structure?

Our forerunner structures for B30 Evolved are far superior to what you see here. Since these areas are extensions of the regular level, we want them to visually fit with the rest of the map, hence the lower quality BSPs and more basic texturing. If you like fancy forerunner stuff, you will be mightily impressed by B30 Evolved.

Ok, great! :) So these seen in the pictures will be subject to change? Or are you saying that they will be left as they are?

It's always subject to change.

Does anyone have any complaints about the bloom other than the sky and water? Because those aren't problems with the bloom, those are problems with the elements themselves (placeholder water shader, and all white background on the sky)

The ground texture is pretty bad. Or at least the detail map that is being used, it seems like it may be due to a normal map or something with it.

I HIGHLY doubt that is final. Just a quick one stuck on to speed up compiling whilst they tested other assets?

You would hope so, but then again, they were showing off pictures. You would assume that most of the stuff in those pictures are at least somewhat "polished".

I'm guessing it's to make people have something to talk about in this thread while we wait for more.

OH. I thought that was B30 Evolved! Really nice work you guys have going here.

Oh oops. Should have mentioned that was a new A30 area. It's one of the ones posted in the B-Team update, just now with revised scenery and shaders.

George Peppard,Dirk Benedict, Dwight Schultz, and Mr. T.
Edited by Echo77 on Sep 12, 2012 at 11:24 PM

CMT irl