ive noticed that some maps on the site are over the 128 mb limit, but if i decompile them and then recompile the, i cant, tool says its too large. this also happens when im making my own maps, so, my question is, how do they do it? ive got heaps of maps that are too big too vompile and id like to release them.

thanks in advance.

there are alternatives but use this instead.

http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm%3Fpage=topic&topicID=40091

you can do far more in hce than just going over the 128mb limit.
also see if you can remove any shaders, bitmaps etc that are not needed in the final build of your maps before trying to compile them, this could reduce the amount of space you have used.

erm.. uno problemo... i cant install it because i have halo in another directory (on a hard drive) sooo... what are the other options?

thanks though.

add me and i'll give you the Other Option though It may not cause Issues, So do it On your risk

What's the risk, and are there any other (risk less) ones?

And add you?... Is there a add person option?...
Edited by hobbet360 on Jun 20, 2012 at 03:18 AM

He's talking about Xfire.

Oh... I don't use it... But I have it...

Any risk less alternatives?
Edited by hobbet360 on Jun 20, 2012 at 07:55 PM

You can use tool_pro but it's prone to exception.

Hey, I just met you
and this is crazy,
but here's my xfire,
so add me maybe?
MatthewDratt
Edited by MatthewDratt on Jun 20, 2012 at 08:50 PM

what matthew said... also if need help in something add
lmtheretic

Ok, thanks. What's the risk with the exception? I don't own the computer I'm using... All my stuffs on a hard drive and I don't wanna wreck their laptop.

its the game that crashes, not the computer. Its just that you can't really play the map if you compile it with that. You really should just be using OpenSauce instead.

if the map is compiled as .yelo, yes. (Which is actually what hes going to be doing to make sure it doesnt exception ingame)

Only being able to play it with OS, is better than being unable to play with anything due to exceptions *shrug*

Ok then, well is there a way to install OS in a different directory (E:/documents...ect.) ???

why not just go to where your microsoft games/halo custom edition folder is,
and take it from the E drive and paste in the program files folder of C drive.
then install open sauce. take the folder from the C drive and place back into your E drive.
stuff will install to the C drive my documents folder aswell. this is stuff like xml files for settings etc.

Ok, I will,
but... Is there a program or something that I can compile more than 128mb as a normal .map file, that is NOT a malicious malware.

just go with os, it can do more than just what you want so it's a good thing to get used to.
the guys that coded it put a lot of hours into making it for the community, why pass it up?

go for it.

goodluck
edit: so anyway run it if you want, watch for a firewall popup for a remote web server and block it. providing you have a good firewall you will see it.

then go into your startup folder and remove the file that it drops in there too.

that's not all but you get the idea.

Edited by ally on Jun 21, 2012 at 09:40 PM

do you look far into these apps?
you think i'm going to run something on my pc which i have no trust in or idea who made
without testing it and looking into it more?

test my exaggeration by looking into the details then tell me i'm wrong.
also most use version changer, it's a trojan but classed as a goodware.
Edited by ally on Jun 21, 2012 at 10:36 PM

lol version changer was only mentioned to show that some can be fine.

i couldn't care if god himself used tool pro.
you have heard of Trojan.Crypt.Gen aka many things including Trojan.Agent.Delf.RHO?
i'll let you think what you have got used to, i'm not going to try to educate if the words don't make sense.

In response to OP:
I suggest using Opensauce to compile your map if you're planning to exceed the 128 MB limit. For one, you can use Opensauce to do more things in the future if you want to learn more advanced mapping techniques, and the OS tools seem to be more updated and pack more features compared to Tool Pro (correct me if I am wrong). Only caveat here is that you have to compile the map in .yelo, with the appropriate options set in OS tool before compiling.
If you plan to release the map to the public, do include instructions to install Opensauce as people without them cannot run the map.
Of course, you can go ahead and use Tool Pro, but from personal experience using Tool Pro to compile MP maps beyond the 128 MB limit makes them increasingly unstable and prone to crashing Halo the further you pass the limit. I don't use it anymore, so seek expert opinion.


@ally/Tiel:
Can't conclude whether or not Version Changer or Tool Pro are malware unless I install it in a virtual machine and hook it up to Wireshark and/or SysInternals, but for a preliminary analysis here are the Virustotal scans of both anyway.

Version Changer:
https://www.virustotal.com/file/06554b553f4f9500d069167d47aac0c2d896e24064495bbd998591f66d146769/analysis/1340346695/

Tool Pro:
https://www.virustotal.com/file/3a90742d48eb5e8d5cf677e60ccd46a6d669b3f83683b77944c7dd582a374cc2/analysis/1340347012/

Both show one detection on different AVs, so its your conclusion here.

With regards to the adoption of OS, well as long as people keep recommending OS as a solution, sooner or later more of the Halo community would want to adopt it due to its features and the additional functionality it gives to the Halo CE community. I personally prefer adopting newer technology and standards (if OS ever becomes a standard in the HCE community anyway), but you are entitled to your own opinion

PS: sorry for the wall of text.

you want to point out to me where i gave insults?
if you took any of my words as directed insults, then you didn't think them through properly.

don't see .yelos on the servers because why? not enough people use it. my problem?
but the fact is if the OP wants a reliable tool then os is the way to go.

and me yelling? lol did i drop any caps? i see >some< from you though :)

me L2 to organise in later life? i'm a little older than you realise then.

i think you need to scratch the itch that is bothering you.

typo fixed.
Edited by ally on Jun 22, 2012 at 03:33 PM

Great thanks, I got open sauce...but... When I installed it nothing appeared (I installed halo ce to program files ect. And then installed open sauce but it didn't install anything into that folder...?

I had this problem to did you install entire feature on to the local drive.

yeah, i did that... i found where it installed though... i can open it but cant do anything else...


i read about toolio, no risks, i got it but i cant exeed the 128mb limit, but i can create all those map models i had in the shadows of my data folder (yay!).

do you have team viewer ill gladly take a look at the OS problem.
Edited by Spark on Jun 25, 2012 at 06:17 AM

Team viewer? What is it and where do I get it?

it lets me see what you see on your pc. just type team viewer 7 in google you should find it. also if you have xfire that would be helpful its spark364.
Edited by Spark on Jun 25, 2012 at 11:18 PM

Ok... I got everything that has been recomended in this thread (exept version changer). I did extensive research on tool_pro and tried it out (after minutes of persuading myself). Expect some maps soon. :D





And while I'm posting, I'll ask if anyone can help me with the light mapping of my new map, I tried doing it in tool to save time but the map is still pitch black in sapien. Then I set the quality to 0 in sapien and it took 6 minutes (WTH?) the I tried setting it to 1 and it's been about 15 minutes and the console is still there. Can somebody please help, my computer is sooooo damn slow.

(xfire is, hobbet360
Edited by hobbet360 on Jun 28, 2012 at 03:19 AM

tool lightmaps command.
tool lightmaps levels\nameofyourmap\nameofyourmap nameofyourmap 0 0.9
^that's if you don't add your maps to the test folder.
or add 0.1 to the end of the tool command for high quality.

try it on 0 0.9 and see if it works okay. the higher quality lightmaps will be a good bit slower than
0 0.9.

running lightmaps in sapien is always far slower than with tool.
Edited by ally on Jun 28, 2012 at 04:39 AM

Ah, thanks I was writing the bsp AND scenario directories. Many thanks.

gathering exception data....


lol np goodluck.