Because we don't get what "make it now stealthy" means :\

No you don't.


I can't believe I even have to explain this to you. You know what a grenade is right? It's that little round oblong sphere thing that you throw, then after 3 seconds or so, it blows up. (read: explosion). Explosions make noise.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEESJ_q1bRw
Noise =/= stealth.
A stealthy gun is one that's quiet, and if it has a underslung grenade launcher on it, that launches grenades (remember, grenades explode, and explosions make noise) then it's not exactly a stealthy weapon, is it?

If it makes noise when shot (and when impacting and exploding, for that matter) then it affects the stealthiness of the gun.


-Efelnant

Doesnt really effect your stealthyness, if you fire a grenade no where near you. Just makes the enemy aware something is there.

lol... why do people use silencers and noobtoobs in those no radars matches on mw and mw2... its 3p sound makes little sound...

Owned. Yeah, people might think it's a backup for when your stealth mission fails, but wouldn't you have another weapon for that to conserve ammo incase you go back into stealth mode?

Sorry Gamma. What I meant was: How does putting a NT on a gun make it not stealthy anymore?

And Uneven you still haven't told me how putting a NT on a gun makes it not stealthy.


-Skidrow

By itself, the grenade launcher doesn't effect the stealth capabilities of the rifle, but using it does.

I'm tired of people calling it a NOOB TUBE. Most likely it will be a M203 grenade launcher but there are different versions of it. But stop calling it a noob tube, this isn't call of duty.

I give up.
Edited by ThetianSoldier on Jul 2, 2010 at 06:33 PM

pro pipe.

Noob tube is a all around term for anything that shoots something explosive from a tube. it was keyed for the Battlefield series of games.

n00b tube - 4 definitions - Any weapon used by a [n00b] primarily in [FPS] games that allows easy kills by players with absolutely no skill.

-A weapon in any game that allows for online play. This weapon will allow easy kills for new players or n00bs. The most common n00b tube is the grenade launcher. The grenades launch out of a tube therefore the phrase n00b tube is appropriate.

-A bazooka or panzershreck in MOH Allied Assault, Spearhaed, or Breakthrough.

-The auto-shotgun in cs:source - so called cause its use by frekin n00bs who cant aim 4 sh1t

See? anyway.
Be it GP-30 M203 GP-25... It is still considered a noob tube.
Noob tube is also a slang term for grenade launcher as noobs and people who can't aim use them.

OK did anyone understand that?
Anyway what in the heck were we talking about?


-Skidrow
Edited by Skidrow925 on Jul 2, 2010 at 07:35 PM

Pfft, if you can't aim, how can you shoot a grenade launcher at an angle that will hit your target at a distance?

How retarded most of your posts were/are.

Quit trolling. Refer it to a grenade launcher. Ah how about go into the Army, and go say SHOOT THE NOOB TUBE. Tbh you can't aim from your hip with a grenade launcher hur hur hur thats why most games aim from the hip to shoot


This.

alot

You know what? It really dosen't matter so much. If he wants to use the GLauncher , let him use it. If not , screw it , leave it there. It dosen't affect gun performance apart from making it slightly heavier.

wow....the idiocrocy that has formed here.

1: the "noobtube" in real life does require some skill to aim. as it isn't like a bullet that(for the msot part) travels very fast in a straight line, u have to account much more the wind and distance. play AA, its not a perfect replication of weapon usage but when firing it, u can fire it without aiming but chances are you'll miss. u have to sight it, use the ladder sights(i know they aren't called that but that's what i call em) for the distances(at 25foot increments i believe).

2: a "silencer" doesn't really silence, it suppresses. also hides te muzzle flash. its only stealthy if used in a stealthy manner. its not the soft "pew" sound they put in games, but a tad louder(but mostly hard to pinpoint) bang. They are especially useful in urban combat where environmental noises can cover up the suppressed sound, such as engines, construction,or even a loud jungle.

3: having the m203 or other explosive ordinance launcher attached to your weapon reduces control,increases weight, and causes too much of a temptation to use it to blow away the enemy. yes skidrow, it doesn't affect the "stealthyness" of the weapon directly, but when firing a m203 or likewise attachment, it increases your chances of being caught. m203s are pretty loud, that's y the m79 was called a thumper, cause of the noise it made when fired. notice that most games(and in real life) that when they use supressed m4/m16/w.e, they don't have a launcher on it. less weight = ability to move faster with less noise. also less excess weight from the shells. now can we please just move on? cuase i think skiddy here just loves the attention he gets from acting as he does. its like a bad pet or lil' kid. ignore them their cries for attention and they stop.

^

People do some research, don't reference off a game that will be unrealistic since all most all are.

Unique understanding of basic physics, geometry, and prediction\trajectory. And of course mass and velocity.

Xfire now.

Blargh. needs animating.
Edited by Koo294 on Jul 3, 2010 at 04:03 PM

OMG! seriously someone get this in game! i would love to see he SW:BF weapons.

YES!! me want, I got like 33,000 kills on Battlefront II

Thank you. This is the answer I was looking for.


-Skidrow

You don't always have to sign off after every message, you know.

-Zenzarenzosauruszorus.

fixed shaders

This is pretty much the first model i've spent quite a bit of time on. Sorry for no render, stupid max wouldn't render it for some pathetic reason. I think it has to do something with the bottom handguard.

Too lazy to add stock. Flash hider has been remade along with gas tube and pistol grip, and i added more detail to the receiver. too lazy to upload new version (still wont render anyway). Charging handle is FUGLY. I think i'll completely remake the gun before i get it ingame.

Light crit please.

I was thinking of tackling this for my next gun:


You think i'm shooting too high?

It's a good first attempt, but it's still far from decent. For starters, its wayyyyy too boxy

It kinda looks like you created a new shader_model, and stuck in the diffuse without modifying self illumination properties and without setting up reflection properties.

In short, it doesn't look fixed :x

What gamma said.

aglion i suggest u loo at the Beretta 9000 tutorials. they are somewhere around here. as said before its uber boxy, and way too wide. if u can look at angled images of real guns, say 3/4 views so u can see the thickness and contours of them.

When the grenade launcher will be available ?

i modified it all...

I won't deny that you didn't modify it. However, from your picture, it doesn't look fixed at all. There's no reflection, no visible self illumination. Did you create a new multipurpose map?

no xD i took off the reflection map..